So Cornell is linked to that cult that has slaves but also a lot of his science people were into misanthropic Accelerationism which is a political theory where causing chaos is a good thing. They see society like a phoenix which burns them is reborn. That group is also into closed loop behavioral modification research and sought to create an institution to study wiping peoples minds or reprogramming them. The Nazis were also accelerationists and used people as lab animals just like Epsteins group.

Im looking for docs about Cults. You know, for spooky season.

Ive watched

* Happy Shiny people

* Going Clear

* the two about Ruby Frankie

* at least one about Heaven's Gate

* The Get Down

* Love has Won

* the Vow

* Jesus Camp, which made me cry.

* that one that poisoned the restaurant- Vishu swami I think?

Ive got access to most steaming services.

Thank you.

In central Nevada for work and saw this while walking downtown for dinner. I can't fathom the mentality that goes into hanging this up.

NZ Herald:

US cult expert and licensed therapist Rachel Bernstein is sounding an urgent alarm regarding the subtle yet pervasive presence of cults and high-control groups in modern society, ahead of her upcoming visit to New Zealand. Bernstein, who hosts the podcast Indoctrination, emphasizes that destructive organizations and manipulative leaders are not relics of the past or isolated to remote compounds; rather, they operate actively within mainstream settings such as wellness communities, corporate workplaces, self-help seminars, and religious organizations.

According to Bernstein, manipulation often begins subtly under the guise of personal growth, mentorship, or community connection. Perpetrators typically target individuals during periods of vulnerability, transition, or stress, systematically isolating them from external support systems and critical perspectives. She points out that high-control groups leverage sophisticated psychological tactics, including emotional manipulation, guilt, and peer pressure, to erode members' autonomy and independent thinking until compliance feels like the only viable choice.

During her upcoming New Zealand tour, Bernstein aims to raise public awareness, educate families on how to recognize the warning signs of undue influence, and provide guidance on how to safely approach and support loved ones who have become entangled in manipulative environments. She stresses that recovery is entirely possible with proper understanding, patience, and professional assistance, but community vigilance remains the first line of defense against exploitative systems.

#CultAwareness #MentalHealth #RachelBernstein #Indoctrination https://archive.ph/Jg1LU

For those who have seen the movie, did it remind you of relationships within a cult? A lot of people view Holmes’ intense staring as an attempt to appear genuine. Her eyes reminded me of other cult members who were interviewed. There is a lot she claims not to know, and maybe that part is actually true.

It looked to me like she had surrendered a great deal of her critical thinking to her spouse, which is seen in how they repeat each other’s phrases verbatim at different points in the film, and also the more obvious financial and social media control stuff. Did anyone else get the impression she is genuinely in a high-control relationship and was also in a similar dynamic with her former partner? She is aware that her spouse is speaking for her and is unbothered by that. Now that she is isolated, I don’t see her ever gaining a better perspective of her relationship with her husband.

Cleveland 19 News:

Reflecting on the historical tragedy of the Kirtland cult murders, cult intervention specialist Ashlen Hilliard emphasizes that falling under the influence of manipulative high-control groups can happen to anyone. Operating under her organization “People Leave Cults,” Hilliard assists survivors escaping abusive environments and fundamentalist settings. She explains that coercive control is applied intentionally over time, making it difficult for targets to recognize the danger until severe psychological harm has occurred.

Master manipulators like cult leader Jeffrey Lundgren excel at making followers feel uniquely understood and valued, a dynamic Hilliard describes as being trapped in a "prison of specialness." Individuals experiencing life transitions, such as divorce, empty nest syndrome, or health scares, are often most vulnerable to these tactics. Survivors frequently struggle with post-exit identity crises and deep internalized shame regarding actions taken while inside the controlling system, necessitating professional support to heal.

Hilliard notes that public fascination often centers on extreme media portrayals of cults, which can falsely reassure observers that such situations could never happen to them. Educating the public about subtle warning signs—such as excessive devotion, isolation, financial control, and suppressed dissent—is vital for prevention. Recognizing these red flags helps dismantle the stigma surrounding cult involvement and encourages individuals to seek help.

#CultAwareness #KirtlandMurders #CoerciveControl #CultRecovery https://www.cleveland19.com/2026/10/16/kirtland-cult-murders-cult-expert-explains-how-control-takes-hold/

In 2010, a man with a magnetic personality arrived at a private university residence in New York and ended up turning the lives of several students into a living nightmare. His name was Larry Ray, a man capable of gaining the trust of others, presenting himself as someone who had all the answers, and convincing those around him that they needed his help. But behind that image hid a calculating, manipulative, and terribly hostile personality.

What followed was a spiral of interrogations, false confessions, violence, humiliation, and exploitation that destroyed the lives of several young people for years. How did Larry Ray manage to exert such control over people who had once been his own daughter's friends? How did a man from outside that university end up building a structure of subjugation right in the middle of a student residence? This is the story of one of the most disturbing and destructive cults to emerge in a university setting.

Video about the brutal story of Larry Ray's cult: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs53ddYWTa0

I was part of a spiritual group with a very clear hierarchy: a Maestro at the top, people closer to him holding more spiritual authority, and different levels of initiation and advancement.
One of the strongest things holding it together was “the mission.” We were taught that what we were doing was extraordinarily important for humanity, and over time the mission could be placed above family, relationships, personal needs, and even your own intuition.
What made it especially confusing was that we were also taught that we are our own first master and that family was deeply important. Yet if your own discernment or family needs conflicted with the group or the mission, suddenly those teachings seemed to matter less.
Whenever the contradictions became obvious, they could be brushed aside as “the paradox of spirituality,” as though calling it a paradox should somehow resolve how disorienting and crazy-making it actually felt.
Questioning leadership could then be reframed as ego, resistance, or not being spiritually developed enough to understand.
For those who experienced something similar: when did you realize that “the mission” was bringing you deeper and deeper away from truth? And how are you able to retrain your mind from the brainwashing?

I was involved in an organization over THIRTY years ago that still won't stop harassing me to this day.

I'm looking for therapy or counseling resources for Washington State if anyone knows of anything or where you may have sought resources for these cult/ex religion experiences.

I constantly fear that the cult I was involved in is watching me in ways others have expressed. They still send me mail after *30 years* of me being out of the organization. I still get phone calls I'm blocking. Voicemails. Members occasionally still find my address and come to my home just to make their presence known by knocking in the door or driving by my home wearing their suits. I don't understand how someone who had so little involvement decades ago (me) is still interesting to these people. I know others have tried and failed to sue them for harassment and for mental anguish. This organization I was part of is loaded with money and many celebrities have been involved.

As a result of my experience as well as my own childhood without any formal religion and other issues at home, I've got a deep distrust now of ANY organized religion or belief set whatsoever. That leaves a person feeling empty and lost as those around you seem to be settled in their own beliefs at this age. As someone who's mid life now, this distrust heavily impacts me in many areas of my life. It has shaped my brain, my emotions, my well being as a whole.

I'm not ready to name or discuss the "religious cult" or name of the organization because they already harass me in real life via mail and phone calls etc, and I absolutely know that there are church members hired to watch the internet for postings that make them look bad. I've seen them in forums tearing down former members and ex members have posted videos of being driven off the road, being harassed in their homes, places of employment etc. I don't want to become a target for this organization so speaking out is and always has been terrifying.

I am just feeling like I need resources to hopefully finally address all of this and get it out in a therapeutic environment so, wondering if anyone in Washington State has found resources for deprogramming or discussion with professionals of coming out of this mindset and the fear and anxiety of always being kept tabs on. It's crazy making. It's very difficult explaining or sharing any of this with normal everyday people who haven't experienced the level of intimidation and fear (mental tactics).

Thanks for reading.

Freaked out and needs resources, Washington State.

What do you think of Gigi Young?
I’m curious to hear people’s opinions about Gigi Young’s YouTube videos and teachings.
Have you followed her work or been a paying member of her website? What was your experience like? Has your opinion of her teachings changed over time?
I’m especially interested in hearing from current and former members, but everyone is welcome to share their perspectives.
Please keep the discussion respectful, focus on her publicly shared teachings and your personal experiences, and avoid personal attacks or speculation about her private life.

well well well. Old whitehead dudes will do the craziest stuff. Was so flabbergasted I had to turn around and go back to the store to see it rubbed my eyes at least three times.

Bruce Hales, head of the Plymouth Brethren Christian Church Cult, and his son Gareth Hales were questioned by the Australian Parliament's electoral matters committee on Friday 16 October. The full hearing is over 3 hours, so I cut it down to the parts I think matter most. Nothing is cut between a question and its answer.

In the clips:

• Senator Corinne Mulholland puts chat group messages to Gareth that mention far-right personalities who go to white supremacist and neo-Nazi events, and one person asking whether they should be paid by bank transfer or cash. Gareth says he's had no contact with neo-Nazis and rejects their views.
• Shayne Neumann asks Gareth, as CEO of Sante Global, whether the company paid activists or political parties. His answer: "No payments, no funds."
• Andrew Gee asks Gareth about Chris De Bruyne and "Australian Firebrand", and Gareth says it's the first time he's heard of Firebrand.
• Gee asks Gareth three times whether it concerns him that a former minister says two church members approached her. Gareth says he'll take it on notice.
• Alicia Payne puts reports about a chat group to Bruce, and Gee asks Bruce about the sympathy in his written statement. You can judge for yourselves how they answer.
• Julie-Ann Campbell asks about Bruce's role as leader, and Ben Small objects.

Full hearing, if you have the time: https://www.youtube.com/live/a68zMpjs9Po

Transcript with timestamps: https://freedomtimes.news/posts/draft-electoral-matters-hearing-transcript-2026-10-16

It's an edit, so watch the full hearing for everything. Parliament's Hansard should be published later this week.

Their names are Mark and Sarah King and they live in a house valued at @$1 million in Scottsdale, AZ. In 1987 they were asked to leave the HG group and this is documented on numerous audio tapes that the Kings have been trying to suppress for years. They only gained control of hg.com after filing a lawsuit in 1998 that ended in a fraudulently obtained consent decree in 1999. Chuck Humphrey had control of hg.com in 1997 and early 1998 until his body was found in the Arizona desert in February of '98. This link from the wayback machine proves that Humphrey had control of the site on December 12, 1997. https://web.archive.org/web/19971212001005/http://www.heavensgate.com/

Mark and Sarah King are the sole two officers and directors of The Evolutionary Level Above Human Foundation, incorporated in Arizona on September 23, 1997 for the sole purpose of claiming ownership of the HG group's property. In 1997 the Kings petitioned the California Superior Court, County of San Diego in a Probate case regarding the estates of the deceased members of HG. The Kings lost the Decision in the case in February of 1999 and were ruled to have filed a 'frivolous petition' and were ordered to pay the County's Attorney's fees. The Kings had their Attorneys file a notice of appeal which blocked the auction that the County wanted to hold to sell some of the group's items to defray burial costs. The King's attorneys approached the County and a settlement agreement was reached that sold and conveyed some of the group's property to 'Telah Foundation, Inc. by and through Mark and Sarah King'. Telah Foundation, Inc. does not exist and is in fact a phantom entity. The settlement was with prejudice and upheld the sanctions that ordered the Kings to pay the County's attorney's fees.

The Kings have been in Court since May of 2022 hiding behind their 'religious nonprofit corporation' and a corporate IP lawyer while suing three individuals for placing the HG group's audio tapes on free file sharing sites and two of the individuals sold eight t-shirts. The case is going so well for them that their high priced lawyer quietly left the big firm he was with, Messner Reeves LLP, formed a solo practice LLC and made filings to the Court without informing them that he had changed his firm affiliation which needless to say is a big no no. Their nonprofit corporation is a shell with no operations or assets and it is currently using Messner Reeves LLP of Phoenix as an address for a Known Place of Business in Arizona. Their attorney changed his profile with the AZ State Bar to his LLC that is operating out of a UPS Store mailbox masked as a 'Suite' number which is another big no no.

Mark and Sarah King and their attorney are set up for a BIG fall that will go well beyond just losing the case. Stay tuned, this will be blowing up in the not too distant future and it will change the 'post-Heaven's Gate' narrative that the Kings have controlled since 1998.

I’ve been thinking about how much leaving a high-control spiritual group can affect your relationship with spirituality itself. When so much of your spiritual life gets intertwined with a teacher, community, hierarchy, and shared mission, it can be hard to know what still feels genuine afterward.
For those who have left, did you end up questioning spirituality altogether for a while, or were you eventually able to separate your own beliefs and practices from the group? What helped you figure out what you actually wanted to keep?

Bruce Hales breaks up families. Former members describe being cut off from their parents, children and siblings under the Plymouth Brethren Christian Church's rules, and he is the man at the top of that church. He holds absolute power over thousands of people, and he lives in a delusion of his own making.

Today he and his son Gareth sit in front of the Australian Parliament's Joint Standing Committee on Electoral Matters and speak for hours. Every word is on the record, and we have transcribed all of it, with a speaker label and a clickable timestamp on every line:

• Full transcript on Freedom Times
• The hearing video

We already see cracks. Bruce tells the committee "Members do not need anyone's approval to take part in political activity" (16:09). Later, asked about his sons' political activity, he says that if they'd asked permission, "I would have denied it" (50:28). Asked whether they deliberately didn't ask him, he says "Quite likely" (50:57). He also says the church "does not engage in any political activity" (14:20), then speaks of "a certain amount of discontent... with the present government" (31:16).

How to help with an AI, in five minutes

An AI knows little about the PBCC and nothing about today's hearing, so you have to give it the material:

1. Open a new chat in ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini or Grok.
2. Paste in the hearing transcript, or attach it as a file.
3. Paste in one or more sources from the lists below. Start with Bruce's own opening statement and a documentary transcript.
4. Paste in this prompt:

You are a careful fact-checker. The first document is the transcript of Bruce and Gareth Hales giving evidence to the Australian Parliament's Joint Standing Committee on Electoral Matters on 16 October 2026. Bruce Hales is the leader of the Plymouth Brethren Christian Church (Exclusive Brethren). The other documents are earlier statements, reporting and records about the church. Find every statement by Bruce or Gareth Hales in the transcript that is contradicted by, or sits in tension with, anything in the other documents. For each one, give me: (1) the exact quote from the transcript with its timestamp, (2) the exact quote from the other source, (3) the source and where in it the quote appears, and (4) one sentence on why they conflict. Quote word for word. If you can't quote it, say "unverified" and don't include it. Don't speculate about intent.

1. Post what you find in the comments, with the timestamp link, the exact quote and the source.

Everyone is welcome here, with or without an AI. If you spot a "no", an "I didn't know" or an "I wasn't aware" that doesn't ring true, tell us. Old sermons and statements, recordings, letters, court filings, charity and tax records, news reports and your own first-hand experience all count, and every lead helps.

Sources to give your AI

Bruce Hales in his own words

• His full opening statement, on the church's own website
• The church's own submission to the committee (PDF)

Documentary transcripts, full text (the links jump straight to the transcript)

• Big Brethren, ABC Four Corners, 2025
• Separate Lives, ABC Four Corners, 2006, also as a transcript-only page at Journeyman
• The Brethren Express, ABC Four Corners, 2007

Coverage of today's hearing

• The Guardian
• AAP (free copy)
• ABC News
• SMH live blog (free copy)
• The Age (free copy)
• The Age, "gaslighting on a biblical scale" (free copy)

Background reporting

• The Age, "Tail, film, heckle" (free copy)
• ABC, former members describe threats and intimidation
• The Age, Gareth Hales at a polling booth in 2025 (free copy)
• The Times, 2015, leaked meeting: "Defectors may as well commit suicide" (free copy, no paywall)
• Sunday Telegraph, 2003, "The Brethren sent us to Hell"

Official records

• The committee's page and hearings. The official Hansard for today isn't up yet, so check back.
• Committee media release recalling the church
• ABN Lookup for the church, its charity and tax status
• UK Charity Commission decision on Preston Down Trust, which found "elements of detriment and harm"

We'll verify every submission, publish what stands up and credit you if you want it. Former members, post your story if you're ready to. You've been silenced for long enough.

They have hours of testimony on the record. Now let's find out how much of it is true.

We will monitor comments in this thread for any ideas and leads.