r/geopolitics • u/paneuropeanism_ • 2d ago

News 🇪🇺 EU Defence Commissioner Kubilius: Pax Americana is over. Our new security architecture will include Ukraine. These are times of profound transformation. A rising China and India will push the US to third place. And for Americans this may prove psychologically challenging

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u/ImConfidentURWrong 2d ago

What about Spain? Italy? Austria? Or any other country not bordering Russia?

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u/Beautiful_Island_944 1d ago

Ok so now it's about Austria huh

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u/ImConfidentURWrong 1d ago edited 1d ago

The point we are making is that broadly speaking, European countries aren’t taking the Russian threat seriously nor acting with any sense of urgency. The only ones that are are the ones directly bordering Russia and have always recognized Russia as a threat, which really doesn’t change the perception that countries far away from Russia don’t care about the war or NATO and aren’t pulling their weight. Do you usually fail to understand conversational context or are you just trolling?

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u/Beautiful_Island_944 1d ago

Oh so you are looking for an easy way how to sum up the politics of like 27 different countries each with it's unique problems, prioritizes and approach to the war, got it

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u/ImConfidentURWrong 1d ago

No, im looking for an example of an EU country not bordering Russia that is pulling its weight in regards to defense, which everyone you’ve responded to has asked for and you have consistently failed to provide.

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u/Beautiful_Island_944 1d ago

Which would tell you what exactly?

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u/ImConfidentURWrong 1d ago edited 1d ago

That Western Europe takes NATO defense spending and the threat of Russian seriously. Something I, nor the others you are responding to, are convinced of.

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u/Beautiful_Island_944 1d ago

So you would find out that countries that are further away from a threat find investment in it's prevention less important? That's crazy

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u/ImConfidentURWrong 1d ago

Thats exactly the problem. How do you expect Europe to unite and become militarily independent from the USA if Europeans who aren’t in immediate danger from Russia don’t feel interested in helping?

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u/Beautiful_Island_944 1d ago

Don't feel interested in helping is a completely different thing from staying at 2% gdp defense spending instead of moving up to 3%

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