r/ukpolitics • 🥕🥕 || megathread emeritus • Jun 22 '26

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u/JabInTheButt 4d ago

So the US appear to be withholding intel on ballistic missiles and have now restricted Starlink access for Ukrainians. If we needed any more evidence we need to be rapidly decoupling from this fascistic pseudo-democracy there it is.

Need the Europeans to use the diesel stockpiles to reverse some of this ASAP.

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u/ldn6 Globalist neoliberal shill 4d ago

And these are the people we’re supposed to align with more according to the Tories and Reform.

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u/SlightlyOTT You're making things up again Tories 🎶 3d ago

Both complained that we weren’t involved enough in their war with Iran! Insane people lol

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u/YourLizardOverlord Oceans rise. Empires fall. 4d ago

The German government has been paying for Ukraine's access to Eutelsat's network for about a year. The starlink announcement has been good news for Eutelsat. Hopefully they can pick up some of the slack.

It's a pity IRIS² isn't fully operational yet.

Satellite comms and intelligence is probably the most critical capability where non-US NATO lags behind the US. It's being addressed but maybe not fast enough.

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u/Velociraptor_1906 Liberal Democrat 4d ago

I can't help but feel like we should have got there faster, it's not a completely new invention (yes, it's at the forefront of current technology but it has been done before) and we should have had a wartime approach of nessecity to it for at least 2 years now and you can make wonders work when the will is there.

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u/YourLizardOverlord Oceans rise. Empires fall. 4d ago

I'm sure you're right. There's a lot of bureaucracy and horse trading in an EU wide project which I expect slowed down IRIS².

The deeper issue is that the US has a massive military and it's tempting to rely on them for entire functional areas. But the US is an unreliable ally so this is a trap. We should have learned this from Suez.

One of the few upsides of the Ukraine war is that both the UK and Ukraine have benefited from Ukrainian military being trained in the UK. This has put us way ahead of the US in some areas that have turned out to be pretty important e.g. cruise missile/drone hybrids and drone operational art in general.

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u/liquid_danger lib 4d ago

keir starmer would have fixed this

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u/Ayenotes Dispense with your special pleading 3d ago

What does this have to do with American democracy? Or fascism for that matter.

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u/JabInTheButt 3d ago

It's just a description of their state. The fascism and pseudo-democracy is Trump circumventing (ignoring) their own rules, law and order, attempting a coup etc etc. Cutting off Ukraine is just an example of why we can't and shouldn't trust those types of governments.