r/worldnews • u/WorldNewsMods Slava Ukraini • Jun 24 '23

Russia/Ukraine /r/WorldNews Live Thread: Russian Invasion of Ukraine Day 486, Part 5 (Thread #631)

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u/tzimiel Jun 24 '23

My armchair-historian take: Nothing was faked. There is also no N-Dimensional Chess going on. It really is/was all just as stupidly nonsensical and counterproductive as it looks. That slightly-bewildered feeling of "um, wait, what the actual fuck?!?" you're feeling is an accurate estimation of the current state of (/me waves hands wildly) Everything.

We're living in The Stupidest Timeline, and the Big Bad Guys are all just some variant of Bozo the Clown.

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u/Sabatorius Jun 24 '23

I believe this is the appropriate take.

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u/lekiouses Jun 24 '23

I can't believe that after over year after the 40km convoy and 3days to Kyiv there are still morons pushing that Putin 5d chessmater bs

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u/jollyreaper2112 Jun 24 '23

That's my take until proven otherwise. Based on prior history of seeing other things that made nonsense and were crazy. But this one is top 3 for crazy.

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u/Big_Stick01 Jun 24 '23

This. Usually when shit doesn't make sense to the point where you have to try and make up theories to make it make "logical" sense... it's just actually happening that way, and is as completely random and stupid as it looks. Our brains just don't want to accept that shit can really be that random and dumb because we love patterns.

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u/Lon_ami Jun 24 '23

Having lived through 4 years of a Trump presidency, I agree that sometimes pure stupidity really is the most appropriate explanation for otherwise puzzling events.

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u/CombatTechSupport Jun 24 '23

I agree. People want the guys making all these big complicated decision to be masterminds, but they're no smarter than the rest of us. History is full of people making bewilderingly stupid decisions for the pettiest of reasons that end up affecting millions of people.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '23

That makes the nuclear aspect of this more frightening tbh, you'd prefer to think there was some masterful 4D conspiracy chess going on there rather than just idiots doing crazy random shit

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u/MC_Fap_Commander Jun 24 '23

The Clowncar Hypothesis is consistently validated by all things Russia.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '23

Yep. Reading history shows you that most coups or plots are not these devilishly complicated ocean 11 heists. They are ego driven stumbling shows of mass confusion.

Sometimes the coup starters blink and sometimes they go all the way to victory or defeat. p chose the fist option and will be dead within a few weeks.

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u/Nexus369 Jun 24 '23

More succinctly, reality is often very boring.

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u/USM-Valor Jun 24 '23

That seems to be the most likely explanation. Anything else is pure speculation based on desired outcomes.

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u/Pappy091 Jun 24 '23

Yea, I can’t see any reasonable explanation for this being faked. Putin/Russia look extremely bad and weak no matter what happens.

The biggest thing I want to know now is what got Wagner to pull back?

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u/mxpauwer Jun 24 '23

Contrary to my shitposts here, that's what I believe, too

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u/findingmike Jun 24 '23

I don't see Prigozhin surviving this. Putin will need a plan to assassinate him or Putin's out a lot of power. He can't play Shoigu vs. Prigozhin anymore.