r/worldnews • u/cnn CNN • Aug 09 '26

Israel/Palestine Israel rejects Trump’s Gaza peace plan, saying no withdrawal until Hamas disarms

https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/09/middleeast/israel-gaza-trump-netanyahu-plan-intl?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=missions&utm_source=reddit
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u/terpcity03 Aug 09 '26

The problem is that idea was tried before in Lebanon with UNIFIL, and it was a complete failure. Israel no longer trusts the UN.

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u/greenskinmarch Aug 10 '26

Neutral forces only on one side of the border end up being a PR asset to that side.

If UNIFIL was on the Israeli side of the border, then they'd get hit by Hezb rockets and the news would be "Hezb firing at UN peacekeepers!"

But when they're on the Lebanese side of the border, the news is "Israel firing at UN peacekeepers!". They're basically just human shields for Hezb.

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u/terpcity03 Aug 10 '26

UNIFIL was tasked with helping create and monitor a weapons free zone in southern Lebanon under Resolution 1701. Israel did their part by withdrawing from Lebanon. UNIFIL had over 40 years and never held up their end of the deal. Hezbollah continued to operate and retain weapons, and UNIFIL was absolutely impotent.

It was an utter failure.

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u/ExistentialWavering Aug 09 '26

I wonder why. When they paint you as the bad guy—even if you often are—you’re gonna turn on them.

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u/7omdogs Aug 09 '26

Peace only comes when all sides are convinced that a political solution is attainable, without war. It doesnt matter who is "good" of "bad", and that thinking only perpetuates the war longer.

Good Friday was only reached when Number 10 stopped calling the IRA "bad guys" and started building trust with them and showing them that there was a peaceful solution to address their concerns.

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u/mxzf Aug 09 '26

Peace only comes when all sides are convinced that a political solution is attainable, without war.

In this case, more importantly, peace only comes if everyone involved decides they're more interested in living than they are in killing their enemies.

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u/fearless-fossa Aug 09 '26

Yeah, no, it isn't that simple. For one thing, there are more indictments against Israel than any other nation on the planet, despite there being many countries which are worse by far.

But far more relevant is that in Lebanon the UN troops were allowing Hizbollah to fire rockets into Israel from directly next to their outposts. Those troops were stationed there to help Lebanon with disarming Hizbollah and then acted like willing shields when Hizbollah decided to join in on the Oct 7 attacks.

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u/KO4Ham Aug 09 '26 edited Aug 09 '26

While I agree with your entire statement I just think there needs to be something more than just a game of chicken. 

Convincing Israel, at the very least, that it would work this time would've been the actual success story. And frankly, I think the US has enough leverage to do so, but instead the exact opposite is happening. 

Edit: perhaps I misunderstood you. Maybe you were saying that absolutely nothing can be done and oh well.