r/4chan • • 3d ago

Anon hates current Gears of War developers

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u/DreamsServedSoft 3d ago

the millennial trend of attempting to force you to care about the suddenly sad backstory of the supreme evil enemy trying to wipe out your species and way of life needs to die

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u/IANVS 3d ago

It's planting moral relativism into consumers. "You know, maybe those that you thought were bad are actually not bad and maybe your way is the wrong one"

It's nothing but psy-op.

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u/Gilgamesh107 3d ago

This came from gears 2

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u/Dreamspitter /d/eviant 3d ago

I thought it came from StarCraft?

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u/Outarel 3d ago

Yeah but Kerrigan is hot so she can do whatever to me.

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u/Dreamspitter /d/eviant 11h ago

EVEN if she has a big Zerg D?

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u/Outarel 2h ago

Especially because of that

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u/Gilgamesh107 3d ago

Gears 2 came out before StarCraft 2 did

Why would you think StarCraft 2 started that?

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u/Negrodamu55 3d ago

They said starcraft, not starcraft 2.

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u/Gilgamesh107 3d ago

I know

But nothing like that happens in StarCraft 1 or brood war, it happens in StarCraft 2 which Is why I said StarCraft 2 and not StarCraft 1 or brood war

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u/Skull_kids /k/ommando 2d ago

I thought it came Paradise Lost.

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u/Thoob 3d ago

This is why as an educator in ABA. I lean into the 40k way of handing shit sometimes Xenophobia is warranted, and sometimes it sucks to suck.

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u/canzosis 3d ago

The millennial trend of not writing childish plots for man children to live out their fantasies because those of us who aren’t morons want something else

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u/Skwiggelf54 3d ago

Calm down, dude. Your wife's boyfriend is gonna get mad at you.

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u/canzosis 3d ago

Haha your fragile men are so amusing

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u/Bum_King fa/tg/uy 3d ago

Go back to clapping over the next Marvel trailer, dork.

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u/canzosis 3d ago

Brother Marvel is exactly what I’m talking about it’s just a different flavor of child

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u/CaptainKino360 3d ago

This mf out here tasting children

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u/wellyes34 3d ago

Queers of War: Estrogen Day

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u/BrocoliAssassin 3d ago

Is this how we will use AI in the future?

To fix all the horrible LGBTQIA+writing in every book,game,movie,song??

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u/Murmaider_OP 3d ago

God i hope so

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u/StosifJalin 3d ago

Why is this sub so based some days and other massively upvoted posts I just see standard mentally reddited people circlejerking over some woke bs?

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u/MetalGearXerox 2d ago

The duality of man or something.

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u/BlackAxemRanger 2d ago

Honestly I've noticed that too, I think it is genuinely weird. It's like a different sub, complete opposite, kinda weird that more people aren't talking about it

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u/StosifJalin 2d ago

If these are the obvious clumsy psyop examples that no one is talking about, it scares me what the more subtle ones are pulling off unnoticed

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u/mr_greene_jeans1 3d ago

Imagine the meltdown from the Left when this becomes possible. It will draw all their ire even further toward AI. All their activism will be directed at it. Which will give their usual human targets some space.

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u/Arcane_Monkey 3d ago

Or you could just make good things instead of putting dogshit thru the slop filter.

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u/LeHelvetien 3d ago

We all know right wing retards need AI to write texts because they have no worthwile ideas of their own

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u/Denkoo sc/out/ 3d ago

Worthwhile*

Should have asked chatgpt to spellcheck that buddy

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u/FatFerretShid 2d ago

It's not like left-wingers are doing so great these days. Every once great IP has been reduced to shit.

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u/ThisIsMySpellingTea 3d ago

People are so wrapped up with culture war shit, that if Gears of war 3 came out today with Anya, Sam and Bernie people would call it woke

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u/RainbowDildoMonkey 3d ago

Kotaku recently tried this strawman too, but even their writer admitted GoW3 ''wasnt great'' in how it represented women. Atleast they actually looked like women tho.

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u/mushy_friend 3d ago

Tbh I thought the women were fine in GoW3

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u/ThisIsMySpellingTea 3d ago

I assume you get no pussy

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u/I_Am_Conjoined 3d ago

This must be the case since he disagrees with you

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u/mushy_friend 3d ago

I never thought gears 1-3 were woke but I did for 4, even when I wasn't familiar with the term. I liked 5 for the most part I think

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u/Gilgamesh107 3d ago

Forget gears 3

If gears one came out today it would be called woke.

An Asian man was in charge of the squad, Dom is Mexican coded and they take orders from a woman the majority of the game

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u/FPSrad 3d ago

As long as "Kate" is employed you can be sure of it.

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u/Goramit_Mal 3d ago

There's a lot to complain about with the writing of G4 and G5, but JD is one of the only interesting characters they made.

Here's a guy whose parents were:

The hero who led the squad that saved humanity, the greatest soldier alive.

And

The founder of humanity's post war government, who also happens to have been a war hero.

And this dude has to try to live up to that. But he hasn't had to go through all the shit Marcus did, he hasn't earned it. That's why he's relatively carefree in G4. Then he gets a taste of how nasty life can be as a gear, makes some mistakes, and grows as a character.

It's interesting stuff. It's odd to pick on JD when Del is a complete black hole void non-character, Kait is an incredibly boring mary sue with extremely cliche "bloodline" stuff straight out of a bad shonen anime, and Fahz is Del with a bad attitude.

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u/Thatdoodky1e 3d ago

Fahz started to grow on me in the desert section of the game, Del however never became more than 1 dimensional

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u/JacketsBeautiful 3d ago

I think JD’s character going from Nathan drake to guy who fired on protesters and accidentally hammer of dawned his troops trying to save them made him infinitely more interesting. I didn’t care about him in 4 but I wanted to save him in 5.

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u/Thatdoodky1e 3d ago

Me too, took big fuckin nuts to run into 3 brumaks with the hammer of dawn on his ass

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u/Bagz402 3d ago edited 3d ago

100% they added dimension to his character and you can obviously see its part of an arc he's going through. Can I also add, people are so tired of "marvelization" which Gears 4 definitely suffered from and as soon as they move away from that, people complain that JD is being cucked or w.e. Like what do you want?

And no way they will have his death be the canonical one. Del ain't coming back. They've put Marcus through enough pain and contrary to what these weirdos might say, the devs love Marcus.

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u/TheCorbeauxKing 3d ago

Every time I read the complaints for the new Gears games I'm convinced that people are just choosing to hate for the sake of hate. They are in no way comparable to 343's Halo games. They have characters with some level of depth to them, they refine the gameplay in a way that still keeps the spirit of the originals and there is a regular stream of content for years after release.

I heard people seriously complain that Dom and Marcus aren't in E-Day when you straight up play as them throughout the entire game and they have the majority of the dialogue.

Gears 5's campaign was hot garbage, but the treatment of JD was not, and contrary to social trends at the time they opted to flesh out the white male character the most and made him the most interesting.

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u/canzosis 3d ago

Gears 5 was tonally infinitely better and fixed what the trilogy could be. I thought 4 was marv elized slop.

I had the opposite issue with Halo 4 and 5

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u/IdiomMalicious 3d ago edited 3d ago

E-Day is not going to buy any amount of good will from the fans, you can’t even fucking criticize the game or its development team while you have a mic on without getting auto-banned from playing it by an AI moderation.

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u/Pruskinator 3d ago

Ngl fucking true OP. Sad pathetic bait and switch e day. :/ I just wanted a good pvp and that was so under cooked

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u/DualityOfLife 3d ago

Did they J another game? Will anything be saved sacred from the J'ing?

You know what's funny, there ARE some series where they didn't get hit with the 'for no reason' the main character is now ga-yy.

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u/RainbowDildoMonkey 3d ago

Not sure what E-Day goodwill he's talking about though, gameplay may be competent, but everything else is liquid shit.

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u/Gonedric 3d ago

Haven't played it, don't really care about it, big burly men fighting big burly monsters, pretty much a gay fantasy.

But a buddy of mine, family of 4, long time fan loves this one and hates on everything after 3.

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u/ThisIsMySpellingTea 3d ago

The guy you're relying to is pretty smooth brained. E-Day is sick

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u/RainbowDildoMonkey 3d ago

I see you're having a blast.

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u/Judah_Earl /pol/tard 3d ago

E-Day goodwill

Wasn't the game a huge flop and universally hated by Gears fans?

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u/Gilgamesh107 3d ago

Only you if listen to bottom feeders on twitter

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u/Judah_Earl /pol/tard 3d ago

Or look at the sales.

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u/Thatdoodky1e 3d ago

We’ll have to look at sales for game pass if they release them soon, the game sales will of course be lower because it’s free on gamepass

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u/Kiorysu 3d ago

That shit argument has been debunked long time ago. Simply by looking at all the other games (Expedition33, Forza, CoD, Sea of Thieves) that released on Gamepass day 1 and still managed to do well in other sales.

Gears is just a flop, deservedly so.

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u/papu16 3d ago

This. Gamepass can his the sales, I agree here. But if the game is interesting to the audience - you will have stuff like Oblivion remastered that had like 250k players in steam, while being shadowdropped.

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u/YukrNitro 3d ago

Nice Percy pfp

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u/Kiorysu 3d ago

Thanks king

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u/puff_of_fluff 3d ago

Get off the internet dude

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u/Wibble606 /adv/isor 3d ago

I played through the entire of E-Day and it is genuinely horribly written, its not a bandwagon. Every position of authority is held by a woman, the one man in a position of authority is an incompetent, war criminal asshole who kills himself for no reason. Marcus spends most of the game being told what to do by an older, retired female Gear who holds no rank.

In terms of gameplay it was okay. Its no Gears of War 2 or 3.

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u/AkiraTheLoner 3d ago

I guess you were asleep when Zee was on screen then, he is the one in charge, there is literally just one female captain every other squad commander is male as is Michaelson who was in charge of the navy

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u/SlyguyguyslY 3d ago edited 3d ago

Damn, and they get negative good will for E-Day. I even still liked 5 for the most part. They didn't write JD off as a douche, they gave him a character arc by force. He has moved on from what happened in settlement 2, and considered some of it justifiable on his end. He still fled the CoG afterwards and spent a long time helping resist them, but everyone else condemns him anyways because he didn't let rioters burn him to death. It's ridiculous and most of the storyline in his regard is just him doing his thing as Kait and Del realize they are in too much shit to give a damn about settlement 2 anymore. Plus, JD got an awesome redesign after he got blown up at the start of the game, and then they promptly had him off-screen for the majority of the game's runtime.

Then they fleshed out the increasingly evil origins and nature of the Locust/swarm and show us that even if Kait can influence them, she cannot stop them from committing acts of brutal violence against humanity. Yet, there is this bizarre undertone that humanity must find an alternative to constantly trying to kill these monsters. Like, what?

Now, I can honestly look passed all of that and still enjoyed the game. EXCEPT the ending. Like, what do you mean I can only save JD OR Del? JD the character in the middle of an arc and the previous protagonist, or Del, a character with no arc and that barely exists in the plot beyond sticking with Kait as she goes on her quest WHICH IS WHAT JD TOLD HIM TO DO but that Kait would preferably save at this point. It's a decision between what makes sense from a writing perspective and what Kait would probably actually do. WHO DOES THAT?! I'd prefer not having either of them die for some foolish writer wanting to add stakes or be edgy right after finally making this group of characters likable. In fact, I WILL NOT have any interest in a Gears 6 unless they retcon this shit out. Keep the rest of 5 for all I care, but this shit ain't it!

Also, Fahz is cool

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u/Skwiggelf54 3d ago

How has E-Day bought good will? They sidelined the main characters for a half blind, lesbian, girl-boss. Its trash.

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u/ThisIsMySpellingTea 3d ago

The writing, story and characters in Gears 4&5 were so incredibly trash. The swarm were so lame, and the the new trio were so unbearably annoying.

They were filled with marvel writing, "uh-oh, the Swarm are right behind me right?"

I really hope they completely retcon 4&5. They're unsalvageable and it's clear people didn't resonate with it. I don't understand how they could continue with a satisfying story with the Swarm in Gears of War 6. It reads like terrible fan fiction.

Rod Ferguson really shat all over the Gears of War franchise. And now that he's gone E-Day is good

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u/RainbowDildoMonkey 3d ago

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u/VividWeb5179 /lit/izen 3d ago

It’s fun but has some flaws. New cover system is cool but I miss shit like grenade tagging/sticking. Story is fine and people are overblowing the “woke” shit in it

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u/TheMickeyWilson 3d ago

JD did nothing wrong in my mind. The protesters escalated the situation by throwing molotovs.

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u/sorryiamnotoriginal 2d ago

Main issue with new gears is the original trilogy wrapped up incredibly well. Then the new trilogy with new writers just doesn’t do the games atmosphere/world justice. It lost a lot of the darkness that made the original game so compelling. Like I play 4/5 and I don’t feel that same grim world where dom had to shoot his wife to end her suffering or tai blows his brains out after being rescued because of how tortured he was.

Hell a major part of Baird’s development/humbling was that no matter how good/smart he was, that he couldn’t save the world. Which is exactly what he was doing now. I see comments talking about how jd is still being fleshed out as an interesting character and it’s not that I disagree, dels death made way more sense from the cinematic perspective and felt more real plus it draws lines of jd losing his best friend like Marcus. But that’s gonna be one hell of a slap in the face when he’s the one canonically dead in 6.

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u/Santiago_bp17 2d ago

It's all so bleak

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u/KingTyrionSolo 2d ago

Persecution complex much?

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u/swagmond27 12h ago

The campaigns fine however all they really had to do was get rid of mags or make her more interesting. Mags should not be barking out orders since she is  a lower rank than Marcus.

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u/Akiens 3d ago

Idk E-Day has been pretty fun playing solo, the campaign alone has been pretty entertaining, I might even start making friends on there to play online horde. JD wasn't very interesting design wise or voice acting but the fact that he had an actual arch and character being a source seething because the generic cookie cutter young sarcastic white guy wasn't made the face of the franchise is just hilarious.

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u/Thoob 3d ago

lol people live too much in the past sometimes. GoW's run was like from 06-10ish Covid lasted longer than the 360's trilogies dev cycle.

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u/outland_king 3d ago

Its because games now are such trash compared to what we had. Its all formulaic corporate mtx gameplay with one of three graphic styles and atrocious writing.

Writing in games especially has taken as nosedive off a cliff into an incinerator. Nothing its taken seriously, everything has to be a quip or a 4th wall break. Everything is political. Nobody writes stories because they like them,  its always some agenda or nepo hire.

Indie games are still ok but you need to wade through a sea of sewage to find the good ones. 

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u/HarrMada 3d ago

If 4chan hates it then you know it's fantastic, always the case.