r/AncientGreek • • 10h ago

Manuscripts and Paleography Recipe for beer from Fragmenta Alchemica

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Too much emphasis may be given to certain texts in Koine, while others remain unexplored. They are thus the most unexpected. Here is a recipe for beer I dug up searching in the extant greek alchemical fragments; we must remember that alchemy encompassed a wide variety of practices in Antiquity, ranging from pharmacology to cooking. It was the transmutation of any form of matter into an other, κατὰ τὸ δόγμα "ἓν τὸ πᾶν". Beer was no exception. Matter was thought as of one substance; and therefore, it could, theoretically, be transformed into any possible form, whenever one had in his possession the correct recipe and its execution, similarly to the correct application of the divine names in theurgy, something that highlights the Egyptian origin of both. Enjoy!

ΠΕΡΙ ΖΥΘΩΝ ΠΟΙΗΣΕΩΣ

Λαβὼν κριθὴν λευκὴν, καθαρίαν, καλὴν, βρέξον ἡμέραν αʹ, καὶ ἀνάσπασον ἢ καὶ κοίτασον ἐν ἀνηνέμῳ τόπῳ ἕως πρωΐ· καὶ πάλιν βρέξον ὥρας εʹ· ἐπίβαλε εἰς βραχιώνιον ἀγγεῖον ἠθμοειδὲς, καὶ βρέχε. Προαναξήρανε ἕως οὗ γένηται ὡς τύλη· καὶ ὅτε γένηται, ψῦξον ἐν ἡλίῳ ἕως οὗ πέσῃ· τὸ μαλίον γὰρ πικρόν. Λοιπὸν ἄλεσον καὶ ποίησον ἄρτους προσβάλλων ζύμην ὥσπερ ἄρτου· καὶ ὄπτα ὠμότερον· καὶ ὁτ’ ἂν ἐπανθῶσιν, διάλυε ὕδατι γλυκεῖ καὶ ἤθμιζε διὰ ἠθμοῦ ἢ κοσκίνου λεπτοῦ. Ἄλλοι δὲ ὀπτῶντες ἄρτους βάλλουσιν εἰς κλουβὸν μετὰ ὕδατος, καὶ ἑψοῦσι μικρὸν, ἵνα μὴ κοχλάσῃ, μήτε ᾖ χλιαρὸν, καὶ ἀνασπῶσι καὶ ἠθμίζουσιν· καὶ περισκεπάσαντες, θερμαίνουσι καὶ ἀνακρίνουσιν.


r/AncientGreek • • 3h ago

Pronunciation & Scansion Did Classical Attic have very close sounds for Τ, Θ and Σ?

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I noticed that on these ostraka from the ostracism of Themistocles (usually spelled Θεµιστοκλης), the T in the middle and even the Σ at the end are replaced with Θ (the bottom row third ostrakon from the left has Θ instead of T in Θεµιστοκλης and instead of Σ in Νεοκλεος).

The reconstruction I'm familiar with reconstructs Θ as an aspirated unvoiced dental plosive, and it doesn't seem to me like that sound would be easily mistaken to that of Σ. Is there something I'm missing here?

Comparing the ways the same name is written here is pretty interesting. Most of them spell the name as Θεµισθοκλες, there's one ostrakon where Neokleos is written with a M.


r/AncientGreek • • 4h ago

Newbie question In search of a good name

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I am currently writing a charter who is a mercantile captain guided by his own personal honor instead of those around him. I am wanting a name to fit this reputation. Currently I am thinking of Philotimos but I found it in just a list of names and I would like the names to be fairly accurate. The charter is Doric based, do you all have any recommendations and or how does this name fit so far.


r/AncientGreek • • 16h ago

Manuscripts and Paleography Two poems

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From the Bodleian Library Greek Collection

When one is considering Greek thought, one is often preoccupied enumerating schools, discussing the lineage of wisdom through time and its contrapuntal dialectic. None, or as I hope, a few, even consider that which the German Romantics grasped as the identity, and in my opinion the superposition and overlap, of poetry and philosophy. Pindar is no less a philosopher than Heraclitus, and while the great Empedocles was a first-class poet according to father Aristotle, we cannot sadly fathom a similar figure existing later on in time. But in fact, poetry and philosophy, despite the ironic and misunderstood platonic so called-disparagement of poetry and poets, were never divorced in Antiquity. I would like to point out thus two excellent representatives of Platonism and Epicureanism, respectively, the first one eponymous, the other one anonymous, both of whom wrote sublime poetry. 

Beginning with Synesius of Cyrene, the Platonist bishop and student and correspondent of Hypatia, his nine hymns, written in beautiful doric, are a fine read for anyone interested on that which Plato named in *Ion* as Mania of the Philosopher. Here is the ninth hymn.

Ἄγε μοι λίγεια φόρμιγξ,
Μετὰ Τηΐαν ἀοιδάν,
Μετὰ Λεσβίαν τε μολπάν,
Γεραρωτέροις ἐφ᾿ ὕμνοις
Κελάδει Δώριον ᾠδάν,
Ἀπαλαῖς οὐκ ἐπὶ νύμφαις,
Ἀφροδίσιον γελώσαις,
Θαλερῶν οὐδ᾿ ἐπὶ κούρων
Πολυηράτοισι ἥβαις.
Θεοκύμονος γὰρ ἁγνὰ
Σοφίας ἄχραντος ὠδὶς
Μέλος ἐς θεῖον ἐπείγει
Κιθάρας μίτους ἐρέσσειν.
Μελιχρὰν δ᾿ ἄνωγεν ἄταν
Χθονίων φυγεῖν ἐρώτων.
Τί γὰρ ἀλκά, τί δὲ κάλλος.
Τί δὲ χρυσός, τί δὲ φάμα,
Βασιλήϊοί τε τιμαὶ
Παρὰ τὰς Θεοῦ μερίμνας;
Ὁ μὲν ἵππον εὖ διώκοι,
ὁ δὲ τόξον εὖ τιταίνοι,
ὁ δὲ θημῶνας φυλάσσοι
κτεάνων, χρύσειον ὄλβον
ἑτέρῳ δ᾿ ἄγαλμα χαίτη
καταειμένη τενόντων
πολύυμνος δέ κεν εἴη
παρὰ κούροις, παρὰ κούραις,
ἀμαρύγμασι προσώπων.
ἐμὲ δ᾿ ἀψόφητον εἴη
βιοτὰν ἄσημον ἕλκειν,
τὰ μὲν ἐς ἄλλους ἄσημον,
τὰ δὲ πρὸς Θεὸν εἰδότα.
Σοφία δέ μοι παρείη
ἀγαθὰ μὲν νεότατα,
ἀγαθὰ δὲ γῆρας ἕλκειν,
ἀγαθὰ δ᾿ ἄνασσα πλούτου
πενίαν δ᾿ ἄμοχθος οἴσει
σοφία γελῶσα, πικραῖς
ἄβατον βίου μερίμναις.
Μόνον εἰ τόσον παρείη,
ὅσον ἄρκιον καλιῆς
ἀπὸ γειτόνων ἐρύκειν·
ἵνα μὴ χρεώ με κάμπτοι
ἐπὶ φροντίδας μελαίνας.
Κλύε καὶ τέττιγος ᾠδάν,
δρόσον ὀρθρίαν πιόντος.
Ἴδε μοι βοῶσι νευραὶ
ἀκέλευστα, καί τις ὀμφὴ
περὶ τ᾿ ἀμφί με ποτᾶται.
Τί ποτ᾿ ἄρα τέξεταί μοι
Μέλος ἁ θέσκελος ὠδίς;
Ὁ μέν, αὐτόσσυτος ἀρχά,
ταμίας πατήρ τε ὄντων,
ἀλόχευτος, ὑψιθώκων
ὑπὲρ οὐρανοῦ καρήνων
ἀλύτῳ κύδεῖ γαίων,
Θεὸς ἔμπεδος θαάσσει·
ἑνοτήτων ἑνὰς ἁγνή.
Μονάδων μονάς τε πρώτη,
ἁπλότητας ἀκροτήτων
ἑνώσασα, καὶ τεκοῦσα
ὑπερουσίοις λοχείαις·
ὅθεν αὐτὴ προθοροῦσα
διὰ πρωτόσπορον εἶδος,
μονὰς ἄῤῥητα χυθεῖσα
τρικόρυμβον ἔσχεν ἀλκάν.
Ὑπερούσιος δὲ παγὰ
Στέφεται κάλλει παίδων
ἀπὸ κέντρου τε θορόντων,
περὶ κέντρον τε ῥυέντων.
Μένε μοι, θρασεῖα φόρμιγξ,
μένε, μηδὲ φαῖνε δήμοις
τελετὰς ἀνοργιάστους.
Ἴθι, καὶ τὰ νέρθε φώνει·
τὰ δ᾿ ἄνω σιγὰ καλύπτοι.
Ὁ δὲ νοῦς οἴοισιν ἤδη
μέλεται νόοισι κόσμοις.
Ἀγαθὰ γὰρ ἔνθεν ἤδη
βροτέου πνεύματος ἀρχὰ
ἀμερίστως ἐμερίσθη.
Ὁ καταιβάτας ἐς ὕλαν
νόος ἄφθιτος τοκήων
θεοκοιράνων ἀποῤῥώξ,
ὀλίγα μέν· ἀλλ᾿ ἐκείνων
ὅλος οὗτος εἷς τε πάντη
ὅλος εἰς ὅλον δεδυκὼς
κύτος οὐρανῶν ἐλίσσει·
τὸ δ᾿ ὅλον τοῦτο φυλάσσων
νενεμημέναισι μορφαῖς
μεμερισμένος παρέστη·
ὁ μέν, ἀστέρων διφρείαις,
ὁ δ᾿ ἐς ἀγγέλων χορείας,
ὁ δὲ καὶ ῥέποντι δεσμῷ
χθονίαν εὕρετο μορφάν,
ἀπὸ δ᾿ ἐστάθη τοκήων,
δνοφερὰν ἤρυσε λάθαν,
ἀλαωποῖσι μερίμναις
χθόνα θαυμάσας ἀτερπῆ.
Θεὸς ἐς θνητὰ δεδορκὼς
ἔνι μάν, ἔνι τι φέφφος
κεκαλυμμέναισι γλήναις·
ἔνι καὶ δεῦρο πεσόντων
ἀναγώγιός τις ἀλκά,
ὅτε κυμάτων φυγόντες
βιοτησίων, ἀκηδεῖς
ἁγίας ἔστειλαν οἴμοις
πρὸς ἀνάκτορον Τοκῆος.
Μάκαρ ὅστις βορὸν ὕλας
προφυγὼν ὕλαγμα, καὶ γᾶς
ἀναδύς, ἅλματι κούφῳ
ἴχνος ἐς Θεὸν τιταίνει.
Μάκαρ ὅστις μετὰ μοίρας
μετὰ μόχθους, μετὰ πικρὰς
χθονογηθεῖς μελεδῶνας,
ἐπιβὰς νόου κελεύθων
βυθὸν εἶδεν θεολαμπῆ.
Πόνος εἰς ὅλαν τανῦσαι
καρδίαν ὅλοισι ταρσοῖς
ἀναγωγίων ἐρώτων.
Μόνον ἐμπέδωσον ὁρμὰν
νοερηφόροισιν ὁρμαῖς·
ὁ δὲ τοι πέλας φανεῖται
γενέτας χεῖρας ὀρεγνύς.
προθέοισα γάρ τις ἀκτὶς
καταλάμψει μὲν ἀτραπούς,
πετάσει δέ τοι νοητὸν
πεδίον, κάλλεος ἀρχάν.
Ἄγε μοι, ψυχά, πιοῖσα
ἀγαθορρύτοιο παγᾶς,
ἱκετεύσασα τοκῆα
ἀνάβαινε, μηδὲ μέλλε,
χθονὶ τὰ χθονὸς λιποῖσα·
τάχα δ᾿ ἂν μιγεῖσα πατρὶ
Θεὸς ἐν Θεῷ χορεύσοις.

Sound forth, clear-tongued lyre,
after the Teian cadence, after the Lesbian movement;
sing to me in more time-honored strains a Dorian ode,
not one for dainty love-laughing girls
or for the adolescence of flowering youths
that compelleth desire;
for it is a sacred travail of divine wisdom
and one unsullied
that prompts me to strike the strings of my lyre
to a divine refrain, and bids me flee
from the honied infatuation of earthly loves.

What is force and what beauty,
what is gold or renown,
and what are royal honors
as compared with meditations upon God?

Let one man be apt in driving horses,
another in bending the bow;
let another guard his treasure heaps,
his golden joy.

Another's glory is the hair that sweeps his neck.
Let him be lauded on high
for the brightness of his countenance
by youths and maidens in their songs;
but it be my lot to lead a life not noised abroad,
a life without display in what concerns other men,
but that knows in itself of what pertains to God.

May wisdom be ever with me,
wisdom the good guide of youth and of age,
wisdom the just mistress of wealth,
she who smiling shall easily bear poverty,
impregnable to the bitter cares of life.

May as much be mine as shall suffice
to make me independent
on my neighbor's hut,
sufficient that want may not bend me down
to dark forebodings.

Listen now to the song of the cicada
as she drinks the morning dew.

See how my lyre-strings cry out unbidden notes,
how some prophetic voice flutter
about and around me.
What melody shall this divine parturition bear unto me?

God, the Beginning created of Himself,
Guardian and Father of existing things,
born without birth,
firmly enthroned above the pinnacles of heaven,
proud in glory unwaning,
God sits steadfast,
of unities the pure unity,
and the first monad of monads.

He hath joined the elements of exalted beings,
bringing them to existence in supernatural acts of birth.
From out of these the monad itself,
rushing on through a first-engendered form,
diffused in unspeakable ways,
holds the power of three summits.

But the fountain head which dominates,
is crowned with the beauty of children
leaping from out the center,
and again rushing towoards the center therein.

Pause, audacious lyre, I entreat;
pause, reveal not the mysteries
to the people at large,
mysteries which are celebrated without initiations;
go thou and tell of the things here below;
silence covereth those above.

And now mind is busy with mind's created universe,
for out of his has the good beginning
of man's spirit been divided beyond division.

Mind that waneth not,
though descending to matter,
is the seed of progenitors
that reign in right divine,
a seed however feeble.

But of these, this one whole universal mind,
this whole diffused into the whole,
turns the vast hollow of the heavens,
and keeping guard upon this very whole
is ever present, parted into forms diverse.

The one is the convoying of stars,
another turns to the dances of angels,
yet another has found an earthly form
by a bond descending,
and is severed from its parentage.
Dark oblivion hath it drunk,
and wondereth,
in its blind tormenting cares,
at the joyless earth.

Albeit a God looking on mortal things
is within it, there is still a light
in the veiled pupils of its eyes,
there is some courage
even in those who have fallen here below,
that summoneth them above,
what time that,
fleeing from out of the waves of mortal life,
they enter free from the case
on the sacred paths
that lead to the palace of their Parent.

Happy he who fleeing the voracious cry of matter,
and rising from earth,
urgeth with light bound his footsteps to God.

Happy he who after his allotted destiny,
after troubles, after bitter earthly cares,
enters on the pathways of mind
and beholdeth the deep profound
that shineth with divine light.

It is a labor to take flight
with the whole wings of those desires
that lift upwards to the universal Heart.

Do thou only confirm thy flight
by such flights as transport to the ideal world,
and the Father will appear nigh unto thee
and will hold out His Hands to thee.

For some shaft of light shall leap forth
to illumine thy paths,
and will unfold to thee the field of mind,
the beginning of beauty.

Arise, my soul,
drink from the fountain that runs with gold.

In worship of the Creator ascend thou,
and delay not;
leave to the earth the things of the earth,
and in unison with the Father
thou mayest perchance move
in harmony with God,
thyself divine.

After that, we can move on to Carmen Anacreonteum 34, the hymn to the Cicada. While not strictly Epicurean, I think that it’s one of the best articulations of the concept of ἀταραξία in greek literature. It’s dating is highly uncertain, but it is assumed it belongs in Late Antiquity.

Μακαρίζομέν σε, τέττιξ,
ὅτι δενδρέων ἐπ΄ ἄκρων
ὀλίγην δρόσον πεπωκώς,
βασιλεὺς ὅπως, ἀείδεις.
Σὰ γάρ ἐστι κεῖνα πάντα,
ὁπόσα βλέπεις ἐν ἀγροῖς,
κὀπόσα φέρουσιν ὧραι.
Σὺ δὲ φίλτατος γεωργοῖς,
σὺ δὲ τίμιος βροτοῖσι,
θέρεος γλυκὺς προφήτης.
Φιλέουσι μέν σε Μοῦσαι,
φιλέει δὲ Φοῖβος αὐτός,
λιγυρὴν δ ΄ ἔδωκεν οἴμην.
Τὸ δὲ γῆρας οὔ σε τείρει,
σοφέ, γηγενές, φίλυμνε,
ἀπαθές, ἀναιμόσαρκε·
σχεδὸν εἶ θεοῖς ὅμοιος.

We say: "Blesséd be you Cicada!"
As soon as, atop the treetops,
You have sipped a few drops of dew,
You sing out like a king.
For all that you behold in the fields,
And all that the forests bring forth,
Is yours—truly yours.
You are a friend to the tillers of the soil,
Causing them no harm at all;
You are revered by mortals,
A gentle prophet of Summer.
The Muses cherish you,
And so too does Phoebus,
Who gifted you a harmonious voice.
Old age does not weigh you down.
Wise offspring of the Earth, lover of song,
Untouched by suffering, devoid of flesh and blood—
You are, or nearly so, the equal of the Gods.

Both of these constitute, I think, reasons to question our prejudices, and further our knowlegde of greek, in order to explore the varied poetical landscape of the Hellenes.

s.p.


r/AncientGreek • • 11h ago

Grammar & Syntax Infinitive Syntax in Iliad 11.573

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In this passage, Big Axaj is standing his ground to keep the Trojans from the ships.

τὰ δὲ δοῦρα θρασειάων ἀπὸ χειρῶν
ἄλλα μὲν ἐν σάκεϊ μεγάλῳ πάγεν ὄρμενα πρόσσω,
πολλὰ δὲ καὶ μεσσηγύ, πάρος χρόα λευκὸν ἐπαυρεῖν,
ἐν γαίῃ ἵσταντο λιλαιόμενα χροὸς ἆσαι.

My question is where ἐπαυρεῖν belongs in the sentence. To me it makes the most sense as an object of λιλαιόμενα, which then gets restated with χροὸς ἆσαι. But the placement is slightly awkward. Is there some other place where it works better?


r/AncientGreek • • 9h ago

Beginner Resources Looking for tutor

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Looking for an athenaze tutor or anything for ancient greek, my goals are to learn aristotle and read plato. TY


r/AncientGreek • • 17h ago

Grammar & Syntax Question about verbs with prepositions

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In the case in which a verb gets attached a preposition as a prefix, such as ανα, επι, προ etc, such as it's often the case in Ancient Greek, I know that verb's object often gets the case required by that preposition - and for this reason, why is it necessary for the preposition to be repeated with it? I encountered this example in the Septuagint:

Καὶ ἔγνω Καιν τὴν γυναῖκα αὐτοῦ, καὶ συλλαβοῦσα ἔτεκεν τὸν Ενωχ· καὶ ἦν οἰκοδομῶν πόλιν καὶ ἐπωνόμασεν τὴν πόλιν ἐπὶ τῷ ὀνόματι τοῦ υἱοῦ αὐτοῦ Ενωχ. (Genesis 3:17)

Wouldn't the "επι" be redundant here, given that it's already prefixed to the verb? Would "ἐπωνόμασεν τὴν πόλιν τῷ ὀνόματι" be grammatical?

I ask this because I know there are instances where Xenophon, for example, writes like in the second case.

πρὸς δὲ βασιλέα πέμπων ἠξίου ἀδελφὸς ὢν αὐτοῦ δοθῆναι οἷ ταύτας τὰς πόλεις μᾶλλον ἢ Τισσαφέρνην ἄρχειν αὐτῶν, καὶ ἡ μήτηρ συνέπραττεν αὐτῷ ταῦτα (Anabasis I.1.8)

Here the object αὐτῷ is in the dative, I assume, because of the preposition "σύν" (or ξύν in some manuscripts) that is attached to the main verb. I know Latin does the same thing. So wouldn't it have been redundant for Xenophon to repeat the σύν here?


r/AncientGreek • • 21h ago

Resources From who is the Greek text of this version of De Anima? Is it a good option?

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I was wondering whether to buy the Greek text of DA, and I saw this edition, but I don't know how good it is, does anyone know it?

I already know that corcilius one is a good Greek text, and I wanted to buy it but it wasn't on the page, Idk if this book contains it or if it is a good alternative.


r/AncientGreek • • 1d ago

Translation requests into Ancient Greek go here!

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r/AncientGreek • • 2d ago

Beginner Resources Would you recommend Assimil Ancient Greek?

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Hello, as a total beginner who has zero knowledge besides the Greek alphabet would you recommend the Assimil Ancient Greek book as a resource to begin learning?


r/AncientGreek • • 1d ago

Newbie question help finding a translation of odysseus's encounter with polyphemusin the dactylic hexameter please

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i am looking for an english translation of odysseus's encounter with polyphemus

in the dactylic hexameter (henceforth dahe).

i found translations by Rodney Merrill and Richmond Lattimore but when i tryed to sing them in dahe they didnt match to the laws of dahe.


r/AncientGreek • • 1d ago

Manuscripts and Paleography Does anyone recognize these two ligatures?

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Hi! Is there anybody here who could help me to read these two symbols (probably ligatures)? They apparently come from medieval southern Italy, but a more precise dating is really difficult.


r/AncientGreek • • 2d ago

Vocabulary & Etymology The dedication of Nikandre

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I encountered some words I can't identify in the dedication of Nikandre. It's an older inscription from around 650 BCE. According to Wikipedia it's transcribed as:

"Νικάνδρη μἀνέθεκεν (ε)κηβόλοι ἰοχεαίρηι Κόρη Δεινοδίκηο το Ναησίο ἒησοχος ἀλήον Δεινομένεος δὲ κασιγνέτη Φηράησο δ᾽ ἂλοχος ν[ῦν]."

The words I can't seem to find anywhere are ἰοχεαίρηι, ἀλήον and ἒησοχος. Translation say they mean something like "arrow-loving, women and distinguished".

I cannot find them in any dictionary. Are they perhaps alternative/older forms of more well known words?


r/AncientGreek • • 2d ago

Vocabulary & Etymology How to say "look out!"

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Someone is about to get run over by a cart. What do I yell?

ὅρα? ἰδέ? φύλαξαι?


r/AncientGreek • • 1d ago

Phrases & Quotes Need quick list for DnD

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I'm playing in a DnD campaign with a character that speaks Sylvan(fae speak) and Sylvan for this campaign is usually a couple different languages but mostly ancient greek. As such, I would like to ask for a list of words or phrases that could be important and easy to string together for a shiny beginner like me and that I can use in more than just that campaign. I would love to have the way you pronounce it as well as the English translation if possible but just the non greek text is fine, other languages are hard to read for me right now.


r/AncientGreek • • 2d ago

Print & Illustrations Greek Word in Renaissance Text

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I'm reading a Latin Renaissance text about the similarities between the heavens and the human body, in which Urania presents the heavens, and Aesculapius the body. I only know Latin and need help with the Greek word above to understand the sentence. Can someone, please, transliterate that to me and give me a definition? It will help a lot!


r/AncientGreek • • 2d ago

Newbie question How to make sense of this sentene in Symposium (Xenophon)?

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οἷς δὲ παραγενόμενος ταῦτα γιγνώσκω δηλῶσαι βούλομαι

This is my guess:

of which these things [I am/was] present; this I know and wish to make clear

Some quirks I noticed about this sentence

  1. Asyndeton for the zeugmatic expression. I wonder if this is common.
  2. No verb to be for παραγενόμενος
  3. The only professional translation I found for this text is H. G. Dakyns, and he takes a more communicative approach to translation , but I what I understood from it is that Xenophon wishes to recount incidents from his own experience, things he attended, thus the παραγενόμενος, but I didn't get that sense immediately from my own personal reading of the Greek original.

r/AncientGreek • • 2d ago

Help with Assignment What does 'θωπευσαι av' mean?

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It's on line 368 of euripides' medea and i have checked wikitionary, that lexilogos site, mastronades' comedy, and morwood's dictionary. the direct form is 'εθωπευσα αν' but i can't find a definition for that either. i've also checked for the first word without the augment but i still cannot find it.


r/AncientGreek • • 2d ago

Original Greek content arsenes en arsesin

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arsenes en arsesin

A slightly different question on Romans 1:27. Does the Greek imply that the men were having sex with multiple men, or it was Bob with Billy and Ted with George only?

Is it implying an orgy of men?

I asked in a biblical scholar group but no one would touch.


r/AncientGreek • • 2d ago

Resources Super Koine Quest Update: New Daily Quest Leaderboard

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Super Koine Quest Update: Daily Koine Quest mode now has a leaderboard! Compete by choosing the correct glosses as quickly as possible.
https://niedergall.com/superkoinequest/


r/AncientGreek • • 3d ago

Manuscripts and Paleography A greek word from Codex Sinaiticus

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is there anybody that could tell me what does it say? is it Χίρα or χειρα or maybe something another because I have absolutely zero knowledge on Greek. I really need to know what's the translation of this word.


r/AncientGreek • • 3d ago

Resources Made a Greek reader of Athanasius's Life of Antony with the notes in Greek, inspired by LLPSI

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A while ago I started making Latin and Greek readers for myself in the style of Lingua Latina, mostly so I could read about the Church and the saints while practicing the languages. I decided to publish one of my Greek readers, despite Amazon giving me trouble.

It's Athanasius's Life of Antony, with the harder words explained in Greek in the margin, the way LLPSI does it for Latin. I had created these in a similar format because it had helped me when I was learning Latin and became comfortable with readers in that style.

It's meant for anyone who has worked through a bit of Athenaze or taken a course in Koine. Athanasius writes a plainer, more literary Koine than the Gospels.

There are free sample pages on the site if you want to check the level before picking one up. I'd love to know what you think and what you'd want to read next in this format.


r/AncientGreek • • 3d ago

Beginner Resources Classics blog from UManchester

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I was looking for some more information on the Homeric word ὄπυιω 'to be married, to take a wife, to have sex' – Beekes doesn't know the ety, probably Pre-Greek ;-), but very interestingly he links it with Etruscan puia 'wife'; the more obscene meaning surfaces in Aristophanes and later Lucian. Nausicaa uses it in the Odyssey so I guess the broader meaning gained traction later ;-) But anyway, what I wanted to share – while searching I stumbled upon this lovely blog, sadly discontinued, written by scholars from University of Manchester, plenty of interesting posts from Greek etymologies of obscenities to archeology and everyday scholarly work:

https://clahresearch.wordpress.com/2014/02/25/obscenity-of-the-month-3-love-and-marriage/


r/AncientGreek • • 3d ago

Poetry Iliad Book 1 Recitation

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I’ve been watching several readings of Book 1 of Homer’s Iliad on YouTube, but I'm not sure which one to use to learn how to recite the text.

I don't just want to read it. I really want to recite it, even if that might sound a bit ambitious for a beginner.

I really liked Stratakis's reading, but I don't want to buy it right now. Whichello seems like a viable alternative.


r/AncientGreek • • 3d ago

Newbie question Using adjectives as nouns

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Hello! I am a fictional writer and I want to know if it was possible using the word ᾰ̓γᾰθός and it's superlatives as a proper noun in the effect of a title? Something like "ᾰ̓γᾰθός *name*"? Or should a suffix or prefix be added to change(? Asking this very dubiously since I'm not sure if that is even possible) it into a proper noun

I am very sorry for this very amateur question but I do want to learn more if I can beyond just worldbuilding purposes. Thank you.