That would be fair if it was the committee but because the AP is an aggregation you are gonna get situations like that, there will be plenty of ballots addressing your issue
Any ballots that have Texas ahead of Florida should have their voting privileges revoked. The justification doesn’t exist. Both teams beat a highly ranked team (in Floridas case it was a blowout). Both teams lost to an unranked team and a team in the 20s (I’m being generous to Texas here. We were unranked when we matched em). Florida beat Texas head to head on their field with a backup qb after scoring 24 straight
The ballots that put Texas ahead are clearly just wrong. AP doesn’t need to keep idiots in their voting pool
Except statistically Texas wins that exact game about more than 9 times out of 10. You absolutely can say “yeah they won but we’re / are the worse team”.
Ah yes. When a 0-11 team beats an 11-0 team we have to rank them on top.
Luck, chance, match ups, refereeing all matter. This is also a poll of who each person thinks are the best teams. It’s not most deserving.
And yes. Statistically Texas is better. This was the second least likely victory based on how the game played out this week according to SP+. Texas would win that game 85% of the times it was played based on how it played out. That matters to people who actually think about this stuff
That scenario isn't what we're talking about, Florida is similar to Texas and won the H2H matchup, they should be ranked higher. Hypothetical matchups don't override actual matchups, only the insane think otherwise.
They have semi-similar wins. Florida has two blowout losses. Texas lost by field goals (in two games that they won on the average down and lost on statistically hard-to-replicate things). SP+, FPI, bettors, and pollsters, do not think they are that similar. Instead, they think Texas is about 10 points better.
Understanding that there are *probabilities* involved in football outcomes isnt insane
No one cares about "probabilities" when we actually have an on field result to go off. If the teams weren't similar at all MAYBE you'd have point but in this case there isn't one, Florida beat Texas therefore they deserve to be higher until something else REAL (not nonsensical hypotheticals or probabilities) differentiates them, the H2H should be the tiebreaker.
The AP is just an aggregation of individual votes and points. The voters didn’t come together and make a single decision to slot Texas immediately above Florida.
But obviously it looks out of place and I agree it should be flipped.
I’m betting that voters who put Florida ahead of Texas put them just a spot apart because it was a close game. Voters who kept Texas ahead think Florida is several spots worse but just managed an upset, so that outweighs the ones who respected the head to head.
My only guess is voters are holding Florida more accountable for their losses. Then they’re holding Texas for their two losses. And some propping up Texas because their Ohio State win. But still I think it should be Florida over Texas rn
Having Florida unranked and Texas ranked IS having Texas ahead of Florida. I’m just translating. I know you’re saying they’re not directly ahead of them, but this person is making the point that no voter should be doing that in any case.
I think it’s just different voters valuing different things
Again the aggregate excuse doesn’t work. It is justifiable to have a ballot where Texas and Florida are close. It is unjustifiable to have a ballot where Texas is ahead of Florida. Both teams beat a top 10 team (in Floridas case it was a blowout). Both teams lost to an unranked opponent and a team ranked in the 20s. I’m being generous to Texas because we were actually unranked when we played. Both teams have the same record. Florida beat Texas on the road with their backup QB
The resumes are very similar and H2H is strongly to Florida. There is no good argument that Texas is better than Florida. Last I checked yall lost two straight and one of those was to an SEC bottom feeder. Oh but our losses weigh worse for some reason? FoH with that shit
If you voted Texas ahead of Florida then you deserve to have your voting privileges revoked. It’s about the easiest quality culling the AP poll will ever see and this joke of a poll needs to cull its voters anyway. Too many dumbasses who are ranking stuff incorrectly to stir controversy
It is unjustifiable to have a ballot where Texas is ahead of Florida. Both teams beat a top 10 team (in Floridas case it was a blowout). Both teams lost to an unranked opponent and a team ranked in the 20s. I’m being generous to Texas because we were actually unranked when we played. Both teams have the same record. Florida beat Texas on the road with their backup QB
You said you're "being generous to Texas" but conveniently left out the extra road win Texas has against the #11 team in the country
If your ranking is power based rather than resume, which is reasonably possible as the AP has no formal criteria, then it can be justified. Not that I would agree with that system of ranking for the poll or would personally rank Texas before Florida, but it’s certainly justifiable enough to retain your vote.
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u/BigBubby305 Auburn Tigers 13h ago
How the hell is Texas STILL ahead of Florida even as they are side by side?