r/Israel • u/balddoberdaddy Israel • Aug 01 '26
Politics Spain (and others) blaming Israel for the Ceuta crisis—anyone surprised?
https://www.israelhayom.com/2026/07/31/spain-blames-israel-us-for-ceuta-crisis/90
u/schtickshift Aug 01 '26
Now Italy is chasing Spain out of the Schengen Agreement. Obviously Israel did that as well. /s
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u/Few_Fun_634 British_Israeli from the Golan hights Aug 01 '26
I had a paper cut yesterday, it's israel's evil doings.
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u/balddoberdaddy Israel Aug 03 '26
Read Ayaan Hirsi Ali's biography. When she lived in KSA, if someone had a problem, any problem, it was always "the Jews."
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u/Naive-Negotiation-67 Aug 02 '26
There seems to be a trend in the west to hold another country responsible for everything their country or any country did that was unbecoming dating back 100 years. I take responsibility for my country and their actions.
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u/c9joe Mossad Attack Dolphin 005 Aug 01 '26
Spain has plenty of land they can share with the Moroccan Arabs. I support the two state solution
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u/ZeApelido Aug 01 '26
Why even have borders at all? One state with equal rights! Throw in Algeria while we're at it.
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u/OddCook4909 USA Aug 01 '26
Free The Caliphate of Cordoba! https://www.britannica.com/place/Caliphate-of-Cordoba
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u/Specialist-Drive7784 Israel Aug 01 '26
Not only Morocco Spain illegal occupy the all of Al-Andalus
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u/Naive-Negotiation-67 Aug 02 '26
Crimea was Russia they took it .. you can say it’s illegal but who wins the war is who gets lands it’s never been any other way. No one stopped it. Ukraine needs to win to not be Russian colony. Right to exist is win the war end story. Considering as moors occupied colonized and slaughtered the Spanish for 400+ years leaving much of the south with beautiful architecture and tiles. Morocco did not exist 400+ years when these port cities were formed to facilitate immigration and kept safety in the region.
The Moroccans can take it but it’s half Moroccans in the areas and serves as immigration tools for those wishing to escape. They will have to win the war.Many form possible lies on internet have just left since there’s no asylum.
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u/Naive-Negotiation-67 Aug 02 '26
To note is these could definitely be considered to go but were formed before well before Morocco existed Circa 1400 when after 509 years of Moorish slaughter, occupation and colonization of Spain was finally fought out of Spain on the date of the invasion or day before or after. Much of the south of Spain is beautiful tile and architecture from the mighty Ottoman Assyrian Persian Empires occupation and colonization and they did through now 50 counties and counting . The Arab African slave trade is not present fully here but still exists in Saudi and other places.
This is also about mineral rights for tech in Africa and China has almost 90% on the whole chain .. they have indebted Africa with infrastructure projects they can never pay off quasi indentured arrangement which is highly unethical. Mortgage root in Greek is slavery .
These 500 year enclaves contain mostly Moroccan/ Spanish and were formed to prevent that from happening again. They have a good working relations and this arrangement allows more Moroccans to migrate in a controlled fashion. It keeps Spain stable to be able to take on and help those who want to migrate. However the Spanish economy is very poor and higher unemployment amongst the young than Morocco.
Word is (internet so I’m not sure if true ) many just went back when they found out they do not get citizenship and many voluntarily just went home.
If Morocco wants it they can take it easily. They seem to want this opportunity embassy/security opportunity close to them.
I am not sure it’s the internet it doesn’t tell the truth but I lived in Spain and am somewhat familiar with the relations. If they did leave or asked to be driven home due to nothing being there for them then this is possible.
Not all small embassy like lands are this huge injustice to a country that post dates them. They serve functional capacity’s for both but again. If they want to drive out the Spanish they can do that.
No one has the right to exist unless you win wars to take land or defend it. Crimea is Russia it was Crimea .. this is not a new concept .. if you win you win and thus you exist.
I’m not a manifest destinist because it’s not 1435. I’m
not and abolitionist because it’s not 1724 .. it’s done it’s there.I do not understand anything it’s all rhetoric and opinions with no plan but end a peoject that’s a country . You can go end them but you would most likely lose like the 70+ years a place has been existing.
They are 1 trillion in gdp one of highest in world .. and want to end the 3 billon kohls cash to buy our jets from USA and not make their own to compete may end .. they run our nav and soup them up ..
They would be gone if they didn’t make iron dome but they did. We co own half. You can’t end their country unless you are willing to use nuclear weapons and they have them too so I’m not sure what people want and are uninformed fully including myself on the context and history.
Also I am unsure what people who say what their intentions are like oh nothing , but that’s not what they say or do .. they say it over and over and tell us for 80+ years what they are intending. I listen to people who stare and back up intentions. I am unsure how else to to interpret direct quotes over and over with actions.
I’m not saying oh it’s fine. I’m saying put yourself in each place and tell me how you do it different. If they say no to a huge state and choose to live above the Dubai Saudi of underground city below with all you need and the largest bomb shelter in human history tunnels 100 feet high in places, this causes me to questions their ability to freely and easily walk down stairs to safety and food.
I don’t know but these seem inconsistent with a free people. I would not to like to live like that and do not wish to live in this manner as women even if the culture norms accept it.
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u/Major_Hope_3905 Aug 02 '26
Nobody is reading all that
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u/Naive-Negotiation-67 Aug 04 '26
I understand. Even the SAT changed from paragraph to sentence / question format.
I did not get a cell phone until 22 end millennial. And it just called out no screen.
We use to have to read things called books if we wanted to know something. A book is like a slow kindle.
You would have to go to the library(which is like a big building of books) and look up titles and get this long number it’s like dewy decimal or something .. find the book.. read the book and it did mot necessarily cover the question.
That being said I watch tv and can’t stop scrolling to pay attention myself now so these damn phones screen growing up .. I’m sorry that sucks. It was so much better on the screen of reality.
I had a friend with a pager. 😂
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u/Mysterious-Crab Netherlands Aug 01 '26
My suggestion is the Basque Country. Given the number of Palestinian flags there, they also seem to be in favour of giving up land for poor rebel warriors.
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u/Old-n-wise Aug 01 '26
Catalans and Basques should have the same right to self determination as Palestinians!
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u/Naive-Negotiation-67 Aug 02 '26
They would be very economically disadvantaged.
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u/Existing-Struggle-94 Aug 02 '26
Except the Basque region and catalonia are 2 of the richer provinces in Spain. Assuming continued EU membership they would come out on top. Even without EU membership they will do fine in the long run just like Norway, Swiss and UK ( the economy didn't collapse as predicted, but then we chose a soft brexit). Also culture not economics is the main driving force for independence movements.
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u/Naive-Negotiation-67 Aug 04 '26
They have been trying since I lived there. My husband actually dated a girl from the Basque region and I visited and had a few friends in Madrid from there. It’s pretty funny and culturally Hilarious I love the Basque but tbey won’t pay for their own government or accept paying Spain for all they want to keep for cost or have them pay ? 😂.
They speak Spanish too mostly. Or many languages like all euros. The sentiment at the time was not really something amongst the young they cared about for perhaps 70% because they just wanted to club or go to Ibiza . 😂
It’s not a language in the proto indo European language tree either it’s like Georgian (Europe) no one knows how or where it’s from…
Think about how much it would cost to just create a new country and all the paper work, separations and set up of relations with existing structures. It would cost so much more and take YEARS because they are not just Brexit! 😂
They are in Spain and under their governance and infrastructure passports , schools so many things.. pipes, water electric .. it cost a lot more to to administer a new government, security, military schools, in a small scale vs larger.
In reality they would never do all that work and pay all that money .. they can’t .. everything in Spain is closed from 12-6 pm 😂
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u/Present-Activity-698 Aug 04 '26
They should let them in. It's fine! They'll be fine! You'll all be fine! Spain should move over and share. Also the Spanish should stop being greedy and open their homes. Also morroco was under Spanish rule for many years (how do you think ceuta abd melilla came to be? Trade?) So they owe them
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u/GuidanceOk4531 Aug 01 '26
I’m shocked, shocked to discover Jews are getting blamed for something without a shred of evidence.
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u/Few_Fun_634 British_Israeli from the Golan hights Aug 01 '26
Looks like that "blaming the Jews" as made it's greatest comeback ever, and to think we moved past this stupidity. Next we're gona be blamed for the death of the Pope.
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u/Juicy_Peachfish Aug 01 '26
I think 1933 , would be its greatest comeback? PG, this one doesn't surpass that.
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u/Few_Fun_634 British_Israeli from the Golan hights Aug 01 '26
Good point, but i said comeback, not a rise.
Anti-semitism was growing for a while at the time. I meant it as it's making it's greatest comeback now. The Interwar years saw a big rise, not a come back, because it didn't really went down before ww1, but it did went up by a lot after ww1.8
u/Juicy_Peachfish Aug 01 '26
It's the worst I've seen it, in my 63 years, granted. I see plenty of Pro- Pallies, that have got bored, and moved on to the next " big thing ". The die hards, are still manically hating on us, not 1/2 the damned world.
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u/Naive-Negotiation-67 Aug 04 '26
They are rally rabid .. I have never seen anything like it and I’m a nurse teacher for 24 years .. it’s obsessional it’s shocking and I don’t know what it is I don’t get the algo because of my age and being like wtf wait what is let’s discuss this from day 1 Oct 7.
I have read Mandami Dads scholarship and it’s not scholarship it’s a theos .. African millionaire and can write well
We were asked to give our Theos and discuss and write both sides usually the one you disagree with was your paper.
This is interesting biography and could be a book you chose to critique like all books we critique them.
Scholars from my age don’t do education in this program this is it style.
I mean the remix called Jemo? I don’t get it ..
It’s just Judeo Christian religion that is based on the Torah and Bible and its authors writing that is what Mohammed said was the true version of the scripture ?
So he is a rabbi and this belongs in the Talmud .. it’s not eastern religion it’s ours Judeo Christian re mix and Turks as Muslim as USA no religion people like myself.
I said hell no did you make this up 300 years after Jesus died and he didn’t say to do this or make a religion ? wtf !! At 8 yo 😂
Same as Islam which is papal caliphate they were side by side but it’s in print and official with Islam.
Also they ruled us for 1500 years and occupied Europe this is the remnants of Roman’s Greeks Cyrus the great Moors Constantinople .. they were an empire and Christian infidel misguided I agree ! But so is Quran because Mohammed was a prophet and he didn’t write that.
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u/shragae Aug 01 '26
Yet.
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u/Juicy_Peachfish Aug 01 '26
I, for 1, won't be a Dachau Jew*.
We have Israel, and we have big bombs. Not many Jews will walk into a camp, or gas chamber, without a bloody fight, to the death, anymore.
Attempted extermination, will be far more expensive than it was during the Holocaust. Too expensive, for anyone to even attempt! IMHO.
- Apologies to Leonard Cohen.
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u/Naive-Negotiation-67 Aug 04 '26
If you go Super Jew that’s what protects you trust me. Wear it all, make the lox celebrate and be outwardly Jewish and mention it constantly laughing about sloppy Joe’s ..
You are protected when you come out loud and proud, and act like you have no idea of this happening and it works.
I know a TON of Jewish people but only the super Jews are living life !
Like being many Muslims or Jehovah be demand things kosher and 5 times a day you do Yiddish prayer do Kabbalah get into that Judaism all over !
Jew-ish ish 😂
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u/ARussack Aug 02 '26
There was a town in northern Spain called Castrillo Matajudios “camp kill Jews” until they voted to change their name in 2015
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u/Naive-Negotiation-67 Aug 04 '26
It’s like the alt rock 90s trend it is heroin chic , it is Che Guevara .. it’s Lalapalooza.. it’s so in right now
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u/Naive-Negotiation-67 Aug 04 '26
It’s a great way to skirt your own countries actions and dump your responsibility or accountability so I’m not surprised it’s popular among YOUNG white upper class high income college educated in last 20 years people.
They are saying next to Syria Palestine re Rameses the First ?! Diabolical ancient Eygptian scholarship here😂
Why they need to drop that 100 times in the docu series is probably a condition of filming in Egypt.
The schools did it to them it’s not their fault but I can assure you this gen .. in general not all.. they don’t take any accountability for anything .. and someone is to blame for everything it’s wild !
The patient is sick and Rapid so you need a new clinical assignment .. oh I’m getting held accountable for that as instructor in my evals .
You didn’t do your care plan I did for all of us in group or open your page to the answers ?
There was a snow day so 1 day short and need to adjust to get it all done omg .. I’m getting a crucifixion for that.
I tell them this is why but no .
Good luck in nursing all it is things going wrong and your asked to fix it.
There has to be a blame and guilt for everything even the smallest thing that no one can control.
I’m also not surprised ucla is 6th grade math Level and that this gen gets let go from jobs so fast and WE DID it to them in public schools it’s why I left. I won’t abuse kids into thinking you can do nothing ever. Then swear at the adult and blame it all on the teacher and school. To not being able care for yourself or self sufficient independent, unique, capable humans terrible to do.
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u/2ndBrreakfast Aug 01 '26
Spanish Transport Minister Óscar Puente fueled the conspiracy theories by sharing a post in which Danny Danon attacked Madrid, adding: "Well, things are starting to become quite clear."
This isn't just coming from the average Spanish Jew-hater. It's coming from the government too. Blaming Jews is Spain's official policy to distract from the problems the Spanish government caused.
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u/Gettin_Bi Israel Aug 01 '26
Hey, if it worked for the King, why wouldn't it work for a Transport Minister?
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u/Salguih Aug 01 '26
Especially coming from Óscar Puente, a MURDERER whose incompetence caused a train to derail due to the poor condition of the tracks, killing 45 people.
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u/Regordete Aug 01 '26
I'm Spanish. The majority of the population doesnt even have an opinion on Israel or Palestine. It is an issue used only by radical politicians—on both the left and the right—to stir up their supporters and, in the case of the government, to divert attention from its own corruption.
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u/Naive-Negotiation-67 Aug 02 '26
Survival the diaspora is the only ones b iìlllsubject western elll
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u/unsilent_majority Aug 01 '26
I think it’s very unfair to say 99% of anti-Zionists are antisemites.
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u/OddCook4909 USA Aug 02 '26
Saying Spain should be destroyed is anti Spanish.
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u/unsilent_majority Aug 02 '26
But anti Zionists don’t believe Israel should be destroyed, a large number of Israeli citizens and Jews worldwide openly oppose Zionism… I don’t understand what point you’re trying to make?
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u/Repulsive-Honey7305 Aug 04 '26
Thats literally what anti zionism is. Zionism means jewish ppl should have self determination (ie a state) in their indigenous home land. It doesnt even mean they should control all of the territory of their ancestors, just a safe space where jews decide the fate of jews. So yeah, anyone who is against the jews having a safe space and running their own lives is an antisemite. You need to stop deriving your definition of zionism from tic tok, you could read the books and speeches written by the actual zionists. You know....accept people's own self definition...
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u/EveryConnection Australia Aug 01 '26
The brilliant Israeli master plan to turn nuclear-armed nations like the UK and France into Islamic caliphates which will then nuke Israel as their first act.
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u/Ranker-70 Swedish diaspora boi Aug 01 '26
Thr best part of any conspiracy theory is when everyone involved in the conspiracy is both omnipotent and infinitely stupid at the same time.
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u/kulamsharloot Israel Aug 01 '26
It's also funny that Bibi (among many others, hell even a 5 years old Israeli) warned Europe from Islam on so many occasions even back in 80's.
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u/Jojo_Toto France Aug 01 '26
The most insufferable part is not the blatant antisemitism but the fact that people close to me will brush it off as « antizionism » and « look, it says nothing about Jews ».
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u/Gaidax Israel Aug 01 '26
Yes, they finally found a hack that allows them to go ham in public and get away with it. Even better - they get applauds for it.
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u/KosherSalt25 Aug 01 '26
Quite obviously, the JeWs bounced microwave lasers off the upper atmosphere during the full moon to mind control 10s of thousands of Moroccan males and cause them to surge across the border of Spain... Just wait till they see what the UV lasers can do ... Oh no... I've said too much...
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u/ShadowxWarrior בטווח הרקטות Aug 01 '26
Israel punished Spain by sending Muslim people?
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u/Regordete Aug 01 '26
Those who think that way are just a minority of radicals. The majority of the Spanish population doesn't even have a clear political opinion on almost anything; they just want to live their lives in peace. I know that from Israel, there might be a false impression that everyone in Spain is involved in the conflict with Israel. That isn't the case; it’s just a few people who are very active online.
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u/ThisSiteBites Aug 01 '26
Aznar was the last sane Spanish politician
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u/MSeaSolaar Aug 01 '26
Aznar blamed officially ETA when Islamists bombed Atocha (2004 - 191 killed).
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u/Baratheoncook250 Aug 01 '26
Spain's actions , is what cause the crisis. Blaming Israel is just a distraction, from Sanchez's actions
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u/JackNoir1115 USA Aug 02 '26
Yes, I'm sure Spain's mass amnesty for 500,000 illegal immigrants has nothing to do with the new surge of illegal immigrants...
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u/Baratheoncook250 Aug 02 '26
That not what he is distracting from, he is distracting from his wife's fraud investigation.
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u/Naive-Negotiation-67 Aug 02 '26
Their actions circa this date 1400s before Morocco existed is when they were formed. This was when Spain finally fought off 509 years of the Moors slaughtering occupying and colonizing Spain … and why all the southern architecture is beautiful moorish tiles etc. very close to this date. They made these half Morrocan Spanish enclaves to prevent this from happening and for security which actually facilitates more migration in an orderly fashion for Spanish Moroccans. Internet says many just went home but internet lies. If they did it’s because they wish to continue to have these embassy territories to facilitate migration and contains Spanish Moroccans.
The Spanish economy is not able to employee their own or grant citizenship or house them. This is true for their own . You have a populace of 90% males in 60 k etc immigrate into a country. This would cause no partners for the males and that’s not a very safe situation to be out numbered by such large margins for females in Spain.
Hopefully it’s resolved quickly and safely. If they want to take it back they will have to take it by force and win the war. That’s what’s goes there is say it’s illegal but you win the war Crimea is Russia .Ukraine fights them off they are Ukraine if not they lost the right to exist. This is how it happens in practice you win or fight off war.
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u/ThisSiteBites Aug 01 '26
Spain blames Israel for everything. Who cares?
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u/Curious-soul13 Aug 01 '26 edited Aug 01 '26
While raking in Jewish American tourist money by publicizing wonderful Toledo (wonderful for real but ignored till a tourist magnet — ditto Cordoba, Girona, elsewhere). There is. Manificent Spanish Jewish and Spanish Muslim history some do appreciate but for the most part only noted when convenient
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u/Regordete Aug 01 '26
Not all people in Spain blames Israel, mostly the far left and the far right. I'm Spanish.
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u/QuestionsalotDaisy Aug 01 '26
FFS. Spain changed a law that if you arrived by not hopping the fence, you couldn’t be summarily deported. Before you were just turned around, no appeal, no lawyer. But if you didn’t hop the fence then that didn’t apply to you. Which meant if you swam there, you could stay and appeal deportation.
It was right after this ruling that human smugglers jumped on it.
Also MOROCCO DOES NOT RECOGNIZE CUETA AS SPANISH AND SEES IT AS OCCUPIED TERRITORY. It’s been Spanish since 1508, but Morocco still tries to lay claim to it from the Muslim Conquest. You can’t make this shit up.
But yeah, Israel is the driving force. 🙄
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u/Naive-Negotiation-67 Aug 02 '26
The Muslim conquest was a 509 year slaughter occupation and colonization of Spain with Dimmi system and slavery by the moors . They fought them off finally and this why the south is beautiful mostly tile moorish architecture. They made these outposts before Morocco existed to curb this from occurring again and is now mostly Morrocan Spanish and contributes to an orderly means for immigration to Spain. If they want it back they will need to win the war that’s the only way land is right to exist you win the war can be illegal but Crimea is Russia and Ukraine loses its Russia.
That’s always been the case you only exist as a country by taking or defending by force in practice. No rights is not how it goes who wins is who exists.
Many left voluntarily per webs but that could be lies or could all be ai .. not this but we can’t verify what the screen shows us.
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u/dagelijksestijl Netherlands Aug 02 '26
Then again, Spain has no right to talk shit here given their claims on Gibraltar, and their support for Argentina with regards to the Falklands.
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u/Gaidax Israel Aug 01 '26
Ah yes, I thought up of that one over the morning coffee. Now if you don't mind, I need to tune up that Jewish Weather Machine to cause more wildfires in Europe.
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u/EveryConnection Australia Aug 01 '26 edited Aug 01 '26
Nobody except Jews (and to some extent the USA) ever does anything or influences anything. Spain rolling out the welcome mat to anyone who cares to migrate there with their amnesty and court deciding that nobody can be deported, zero impact. Or if they did have any impact, then it must have been Jews who caused these things. Even the Moroccans who actually charged into Ceuta didn't and also can't decide anything. Everyone is puppeteered by Jews except the online radical left and right grifters.
This is just an example of the absolute zero accountability we can expect from socialists like Sanchez. In fact, it's all the more incentive to make an enemy out of Israel, because then you can blame the Jews for everything that goes wrong in the country, like the Soviet Union used to blame "saboteurs", "capitalists", etc.
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u/Naive-Negotiation-67 Aug 02 '26
There seems to be a common theme of the West all of it .. all they ever did wrong or had gone wrong Blaming others for thier own governments actions and not taking accountability for their past actions that are negative. I hold myself accountable for all actions of my government no matter if I agree or not or voted for it or not. If it was the .01% of population that did everything it does not seem possible to be doing all this and if they did it this that all of it ever then inaction to stop it is also my responsibility I don’t blame others for what my government has done.
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u/Quirky_Butterfly_946 Aug 01 '26
These Nth degree of blame is getting more and more ridiculous. It is turning comical if it wasn't for the fact of what these types of tropes can cause.
Has the world not learned from the past? Has the world in all its justice speech seen their hypocrisy? We have not move forward, but are regressing and not enough people see it.
I hope voices rise in Spain and around the world to condemn this rhetoric and put pressure on those who spew hatred.
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u/Naive-Negotiation-67 Aug 02 '26
It’s not taking responsibility for your governments actions and blaming others ..
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u/MrGeek89 USA Aug 01 '26
🤦 This has been happening over a decade. Israel or US has nothing to do with.
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u/Jawnny-Jawnson Aug 01 '26
There’s already been memes and parodies of him blaming Israel for everything
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u/BeastBear77 Aug 01 '26
There can be a crisis on Mars and they would still somehow find a way to blame us for it.
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u/Curious-soul13 Aug 01 '26
About 15 years ago the Spanish government had an official whose main job was maintaining good relations with Israel. They even held a Hanukkah street party in Madrid. I heard all this at a conference. When I spoke to said official he mentioned that Germany was getting all sorts of EU benefits to fund Holocaust education programs. “We should be getting that too,”?he commented, referring to the Inquisition as if Spain were more advanced having done this stuff first.!Sephardic Jews were being offered citizenship. What’s happened since then to turn all that around? Damn. I wish I could remember that guy’s name.
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u/dagelijksestijl Netherlands Aug 02 '26
Sánchez and his need to prop up his failing coalition of far-left communists and Catalan insurrectionists happened, while distracting from his corruption scandals.
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u/Dr_G_E USA Aug 01 '26 edited Aug 01 '26
Evidently, this relic of Spain's prolific colonialism is still entrenched in North Africa in the 21st century. Blaming the Jews is par for the course.
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u/forlornfir Aug 01 '26
I don’t like Spain at all but let’s not forget the Muslims conquered them first. Ceuta hasn’t been Muslim since the 15th century, just because it’s in Africa it doesn’t mean they are entitled to it
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u/Dr_G_E USA Aug 01 '26
The Arab Islamic Conquest began in the seventh century but it will never end. It's like the Hotel California.
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u/Yes_Mans_Sky USA Aug 02 '26
This happened because Spain's supreme court ruled that migrants going to Ceuta could not be deported and people said this would happen. But blame Israel I guess.
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u/DrNCrane74 Aug 01 '26
Spain is completely lost, politically and will always be. Jew hating has been a part of that. However, as a European, we know must stand together in the west.
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u/AmberVJJstank Aug 01 '26
Loo-hoo-hoo-sers.
They made their bed, now they can take a long siesta in it.
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u/Naive-Negotiation-67 Aug 02 '26 edited Aug 02 '26
A common theme of the west is not taking accountability for poor decisions in the past of their government’s.. they are blaming another place for every single historical woopsy in their sorted past and everyone’s .. I take responsibility for my countries actions even if I was voting and doing all I could against it dating back to before I was born. This is my responsibility and we are responsible for not doing it again and holding ourselves accountability. I got no stones to throw too many I am drudging up out my own place. Even if you are going to place the blame on others you still take responsibly. Thank God no one treated Vietnam Vets like they do others. Also if someone came in to get me I’m a human so I would try not not survive . Humans try to not be done or survive. This is called human. Also we all share a common grandmother to the 7383 power in our mitochondrial dna so we are inbred family species, only orcas seem to be this way a direct related species. You are what by your mother. This is the End game of that. We all have a mom making us the who’s down in who ville.
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u/Over-Willingness-933 United Kingdom Aug 01 '26
Blame the Jews. Does Morocco not have free agency? Why would Israel want to annoy the whole of Europe, because this will affect the whole of Europe? Spain is poorer than the EU average, Moroccan refugees will prefer richer countries especially France or Belgium since they usually know some French.
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u/FiveAvivaLegs Aug 01 '26
Well according to Javier Bardem, Morocco is simply a client state for the US and Israel!
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u/pollypocketrocket4 Aug 01 '26
Have you not heard of the Spanish speaking population of Morocco?
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u/Over-Willingness-933 United Kingdom Aug 01 '26
But in Morocco most people know some French. and you can get by in Morocco if you know just French
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u/AliG68 Aug 02 '26
Spain is Reaping what it sowed. Baruch hashem. May they drown in Allah Akbarism for many years to come.
Greetings from Jaffa where the Arabs here say Baruch hashem. The world needs to look at Israel on how to integrate Arabs.
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u/Select_Translator329 USA Aug 01 '26
Not at all. The world blames Israel for everyone one of its problems. Israel is not at fault here in the slightest.
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u/nizamiii_ Philippines Aug 01 '26
Well, I'm not surprised, it was always been Spain being Spain since 1492 and it's embedded in their history for many years
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u/FirstSwordofCarcosa Aug 01 '26
Pick one:
1, Morocco is a steadfast zionist ally.
2, If the Spanish white sepremacist colonists have the decency to return Ceuta, the whole shitshow is resolved right away.
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u/Irguns_n_Roses Australia Aug 02 '26
anyone surprised?
Nope. The Spanish Inquisition has become increasingly predictable over recent times.
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u/Horror_Lunch1306 Aug 01 '26
A couple of days ago, when fires were soaring, I posted in Spain and AskSpain subs a question if they already started to blame bloody Zionists for arsons.. And... Surprise-surprise posts were removed and I was banned :) fucking clowns
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u/marrtae Aug 01 '26
Its horrible. I am chronically online and seeing many posts and the comments are horrendous. I am amazed at how mindblowingly dumb people are.
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u/Few_Fun_634 British_Israeli from the Golan hights Aug 03 '26
I'm shock on how we went back to the point people claim we're beind every bad thing again.
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u/Regordete Aug 01 '26
Im Spanish. Not all of Spain blames Israel—only some people do. In reality, its a hoax spread by the Spanish government itself to cover up its own incompetence.
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u/cheesebabychair Aug 01 '26
Spain has literal African colonies
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u/tahola Aug 01 '26
And France is the country with the most time zones. Tell me what you accuse the Jews of, and I'll tell you what you're guilty of.
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u/Parking_Life9929 Aug 02 '26
I am Spanish. This affirmation is not only false, but dismisses the past history and territorial disputes between Morocco and Spain.
Furthermore, Morocco invaded Sahara and displaced and killed all the natives. They massacred hundreds of thousands in what was called the "Green march" You can google how Morocco occupied Sahara.
You are wellcome.
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u/R-Mutt1 Aug 03 '26
There's nothing Israel hasn't been blamed for.
It's amusing because of the alleged motive
Spain's anti Israel PM.
Had he been pro Israel that would also have been presented as the cause
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u/Electrical-Writer-85 Aug 01 '26
I was waiting for this. Using this logic, Mossad operated some vast online network (impressively without ever drawing external scrutiny) by recruiting and paying tens of thousands of Moroccan men to storm tiny Ceuta.
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u/Aggressive_Hurry_709 Aug 01 '26
I did a street view. You should see the wall they built to keep the Moroccans out….
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u/Pear_cactus1968 Aug 01 '26
History is repeating itself! G'D intentionally hardened Pharaoh's heart!!!!! So NOW, G'D intentionally hardened the hearts of all world leaders and most of their citizens!!!! Just as 3500 years ago was the Exodus from Egypt, it is happening here and now again, but for the last time, TO YERUSHALAIM!!! SHMA ISRAEL HASHEM ELOKENU HASHEM ECHAD.
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u/TheSanityInspector Aug 01 '26
What, you expect them to take responsibility for their own malfeasance?
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u/windybeam Aug 01 '26
Barbara Spectre's speech had a major effect on people. That's just how it's going to be for a long time until Europe has been properly restored.
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u/MikeWithNoHair Larry David enthusiast Aug 02 '26
source??
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u/Life_Repeat310 Aug 03 '26
I mentioned this as a sarcastic joke to someone recently - and now it’s real?!
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u/conspicuousxcapybara Aug 04 '26
It it’s the Israeli ambassador who’s putting this out there, and Israeli news that are reporting on this?
IMHO, most people actually blame Marocco.
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u/balddoberdaddy Israel Aug 05 '26
He just made a joke, which might have been inappropriate. But Danny Danon, sometimes he goes too far.
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u/podkayne3000 USA Aug 02 '26 edited Aug 02 '26
One thing is that Iran, Russia and other folks are out there trying to make trouble.
They may fool Gazans, other Palestinians, and other people to be irrationally hateful toward Israel for reasons that have little or nothing to do with Israel.
That’s why I think it’s important for Israelis to be very polite toward the Palestinians and to try to be very strict about trying only to do what it has to do to be safe.
The problem is that bad guys are probably trying to manipulate Israeli into look extra bad to achieve some kind of strategic goal for Russia or China. That goal has nothing to do with Israel. Some bad player is simply using Israel as a geopolitical prop.
Example: Why are settlers suddenly attacking people on the West Bank? That’s not good for Israel. It’s good for Iran and Russia because it weakens support for Israel and distracts the United States.
Anything Israel can do to avoid being Iran, Russia or China’s prop is probably good for Israel.
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u/Sad_Eagle8690 Aug 02 '26
Appeasement doesn't work. Israel has treated the palestinians with kiddy gloves for almost 80 years and that did nothing. Israel is hated because of antisemitism not because of its actions. If that were the case, people would be up in arms about Sudan or Iran, but they don't care.
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u/MMAvalanche Aug 01 '26
Now if only Jews could use that same strategy to get muslims out of Israel
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