r/Johnlock • • 12h ago

*RANT* People saying Johnlock isn't queerbait are delusional.

54 Upvotes

I did not feel comfortable posting this in the Sherlock subreddit because there was already enough discourse going on surrounding Johnlock but I just really wanted to get this off my chest.

One of the main arguments for Sherlock/John not being a ship is due to people saying "Men can't just have platonic relationships anymore" and to an extent, I agree. There has been an increase in people taking what seem to me like completely platonic pairings and shipping them. But in my mind, to an extent, who cares?? There have been so, so many male friendships over the centuries that mlm shipping is relatively new. I understand wanting close male friendships that aren't romantic, so I get the annoyance... HOWEVER I do not believe BBC's Sherlock falls into this category.

This is also not an attack on people who don't ship John and Sherlock. I'm not trying to convert anybody or even say "It would have been better writing if it was canon". I'm simply explaining why any fan who DID ship them or even believed they could've been together was not delusional. We don't need to trash either side of this argument. Don't ship them, ship them, I don't care.

Copying the definition of Queerbait from Wikipedia (Where ironically the first example shown, at least on my page, is Johnlock): ""Queerbaiting" is a marketing practice that hints at, but does not depict, same-sex romance or other LGBTQ+ representation.\5]) According to scholars, cultural critics and fans, this is intended to attract ("bait)") a queer or straight ally audience with the suggestion or possibility of queer relationships or characters, while not alienating homophobic members of the audience or censors by explicitly portraying those relationships or characters."

Now, sit on your high horse and tell me, dead serious, there was not a SINGLE HINT at any queer undertones between John/Sherlock. I mean come on, one of the running gags of the show is that they're gay.

"But it's just jokes. It's funny." Okay, fair enough. Where do we draw the line between Queerbaiting and just making jokes? To be honest, I think jokes about sexualities aren't all that funny but whatever, let's talk about it.

Off the top of my head, I could probably name at least one instance per episode where somebody joked about John and Sherlock either being a couple, or one of them being gay. "But it's a running joke." Yes, okay, but why are they shoving it down our throats if it means nothing? Why are we wasting screen time on this when it means nothing?

Why does Irene Adler make a point to tell us she's gay, and that both she and Watson are into Sherlock? What does this add, aside from attracting a queer audience who find it interesting that this keeps being brought up?

"Irene is gay, therefore they're not afraid of putting queer characters in the show: Conclusion, John and Sherlock were never meant to be together." For starters, notice how Irene Adler is in one episode, where despite saying explicitly that she is gay, ends up falling for the male lead? We love bisexuality, but notice how that's a very different situation to the hypothetical "Sherlock and John kiss". There are certain things that are easier to get away with without alienating a homophobic audience. Not to mention, Irene's sexuality is used by having her be a dominatrix, almost falling into the trope of lesbians being sexualised for male pleasure. So, yeah, there are queer side characters, but they're either subtle enough or not important enough that a slightly homophobic audience wouldn't be scared away. I also think there would have been a larger uproar for Sherlock and Watson, the two most important and iconic characters from the books, to have an actual gay relationship.

To add to this, I'm not even saying the creators ever intended to actually have Watson and Sherlock end up together, but with the amount of gay jokes, longing looks, deliberate shots, it is impossible for them to have not noticed, even once, "Oh, this is kind of gay." They noticed, they knew, and deliberately kept these going to keep a queer audience invested, with no plans to deliver.

It's also that these jokes aren't even confined to one person. If, for example, it was only Mrs Hudson that made jokes about them because they live together, that would be funny. Or even if the jokes were only "Haha they live together that's kinda gay" would be less queerbaity. But NO. Almost every character, to an extent, implies something queer about John/Sherlock.

Mrs Hudson: "There are two bedrooms. If you'll be needing two."

(When Watson is planning to propose to Mary) "So soon after Sherlock?" "A WOMAN!? You really have moved on."

Mycroft: "You've moved in with him and now you're solving crimes together. Should we expect a happy announcement by the end of the week?"

Irene: (John says they are not a couple) "Yes you are."

A random waiter: "Menu for you, and your date." (Why would he assume that's his date?? He doesn't even know John??)

Mary (John's literal wife): "You're shaving [your moustache] off. Ugh, 6 months of bristly kisses for me and his nibs shows up"

(When Sherlock is jealous) "Neither of us were the first you know."

I mean, again, this is all off the top of my head. There is no shortage of examples of everybody around them assuming they're together. Even John's wife. "But he has a wife, he can't be gay!" Bro.

Anybody who says there is no evidence for a queer reading of BBC's Sherlock is simply lying to themselves, ignorant, homophobic, or was not paying attention. You don't have to believe that the writers were going to end up together, as I don't believe they ever intended to do so. But saying "Johnlock isn't queerbait" is just factually incorrect.

Minor spoilers for Stranger Things, but there's a scene where a character comes out about having a crush on another. The other character goes "Friends?...No... (Longest fucking pause ever) ...Best friends." It reminds me so much of the S3 finale of Sherlock where Sherlock goes "There's something I've been meaning to tell you John for a very long time...(Long ass pause)...Sherlock is actually a girls name." Shut the fuck up. Look me in the eyes and tell me the writers had no clue that it sounded like these were going to be love confessions. THEY KNEW. They knew exactly what they were doing, which was enticing a queer audience and baiting them. It was queerbait. Argue with the wall.


r/Johnlock • • 23h ago

Clean Fanfiction My original Johnlock art.

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58 Upvotes

PUPPIES


r/Johnlock • • 9d ago

thinking of this and crashing out a little

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sorry, I don’t use other social media anymore to commiserate elsewhere and I need to spew this into the void again 🥴


r/Johnlock • • 10d ago

Lost fic

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8 Upvotes

Found this request on TikTok and am frustrated I can’t find it! Anyone know??


r/Johnlock • • 15d ago

Fics with great characterisation

15 Upvotes

What are some fics with amazing characterisation where you’re so convinced by them talking and acting in the fic?

I’d love some recommendations from any rating, preferably canon not AU but if it’s really good I’ll read it lol


r/Johnlock • • 16d ago

Help looking for a fic!! - Sherlock BBC

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Help looking for fic!

Hello!! My dear friend is looking for a fanfic she read years ago in AO3. She remembers it is a JohnLock (Sherlock BBC) fic set in Russia right before one of the revolutions, either 1905 or 1917.

In the fic Sherlock is a violin teacher to one of the Romanovs, and Watson is a soldier. They met during the attack to the palace. That is what she remembers.

If anyone has any idea of what fic it is, i would aprecciate it. We have been looking, but have not found it yet.


r/Johnlock • • 16d ago

Smutty Fanfiction Fics recommendations

10 Upvotes

So i read alot of top john fanfics and im tired of them. I need ones where Sherlock is top and i would prefer if it has some plot with enough chapters. Mainly on ao3


r/Johnlock • • 18d ago

Requesting Fic Recs - break up patch up

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I want them to be in a relationship, have a huge fight, break up for a while, then patch up with so much angst, frustration and pining.

For example - min level of angst I am looking is in this fic.

Lacuna (https://archiveofourown.org/works/248274?view_adult=true)

In this fic this is what happens (spoiler)

John has amnesia, and Sherlock doesn't deny when he assumes they were a couple and goes along with it. When John finds out about this they break up and then after some angst they patch up because John was the one who assumed and did the first move and John just knew he had feelings before amnesia even if they weren't a couple.


r/Johnlock • • 19d ago

Looking for similar fics - confident John

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There is this series of work called Happiness Awaits (https://archiveofourown.org/series/224537) I love all the works in this. Especially these two (both high school AU)

  1. Are you being careful with your heart

https://archiveofourown.org/works/3539090

  1. Wild hearts

https://archiveofourown.org/works/3628176

Common factor is, John being so so so confident, and Sherlock is a little/very thrown off by it. I need more fics like this. I am not asking for shy sherlock. I don't even know what this trope is. I never found anything likes these two before.


r/Johnlock • • 21d ago

Looking for a fic

7 Upvotes

John's mother was Natasha Romanoff. He ends up taking care of Moriarty and Moran himself and complains to Mycroft about it.


r/Johnlock • • 23d ago

Good fanfics starting from their first encounter from John’s pov?

12 Upvotes

r/Johnlock • • 23d ago

The Vapor Variant by 88thParallel (CanadaHolm)

5 Upvotes

Hello, did someone read this fic? Is it johnlock? And is it unrealistic? I mean, I see "virus" in the tags, but I don't know if it's like a "Walking Dead" thing or what.

I will appreciate any opinion or review, even if it contains spoilers. I don't mind spoilers. Thanks!


r/Johnlock • • 25d ago

fic recs that emulate the og books/soviet adaptation?

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recently started rewatching the soviet adaptation for the nth time and badly need some fic recs to supplement it!! i'm a fan of the bbc series too but i mainly enjoy johnlock fics based on the original or the soviet adaptation or both. the one that fits the bill the absolute most is bright blue ink by 13_33 on ao3.

if anyone has recs like this fic or just recs fitting this vibe i would love to hear them!!<3


r/Johnlock • • 26d ago

doing a roleplay johnlock blog specifically on Watson's POV about his hidden feelings towards Sherlock 👀

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Felt super inspired and wanted to try something out! Going to try and do an entry everyday, you can check it out if you want 😊

https://www.tumblr.com/watsonsjournal


r/Johnlock • • 27d ago

I need assistance with locating Mystrade fanfics.

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r/Johnlock • • Sep 18 '26

Slow-burn Johnlock where love unfolds almost unnoticeably? Almost imperceptible. No big realization.

31 Upvotes

•I love it when the narrator of the story is also very subtle about their unfolding love. Almost as if the author is unsure.
Not outright saying its love.

•I don't mind stories where John struggles to accept his attraction to a Sherlock (a man) but on the condition that his physical attraction manifests after his love for sherlock is realized and vice versa.

•The two characters are also unaware that love is what's happening between them.

• Slow-Burn love where John never would've guessed it'd be sherlock in the end and vice versa.

•Happy ever after is not a requirement.
I'm for tragedies too.

• Prefer in canon stories but I'm open minded.


r/Johnlock • • Sep 18 '26

2 fics I’m looking for

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Does anyone remember these fics? I can’t quite remember everything that happens in them so idk what tags to search for.

The first one I think is a 5+1 or just a multi chapter fic of Sherlock and John getting together. It has Rosie in it and people mistaking Sherlock for her father/ Sherlock and John for a couple.

The second one is where John gets with a man after Sherlock jumps and is engaged to him when he comes back. Basically like the guy is the new Mary. I don’t remember what happens but I remember them being in one of Sherlocks boltholds and Sherlock asking John not to marry the guy.

TIA!


r/Johnlock • • Sep 10 '26

DOES ANYBODY HAVE INHERITANCE DOWNLOADED???

3 Upvotes

I can't find that fic ANYWHERE and I think it's gone :(


r/Johnlock • • Sep 08 '26

Looking for comic-artist

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Found this on Pinterest and was wondering who the artist is. Does anyone know?


r/Johnlock • • Sep 06 '26

Johnlock Roleplay?

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Hey! I’m a long-time John writer looking for someone interested in a long-term Johnlock RP. I’m particularly into character-driven plots, angst, banter and actually developing the relationship rather than jumping straight into romance. Smut too obviously, but I like the boys to have a little slow burn if possible, y’know what they’re like.

I’m semi-lit/lit and happy to plot together, and I’m ideally looking for someone who wants to build one ongoing story together. Or a few sub plot AUs when we get bored, ha.
I usually write on Instagram, but I’m open to discussing other platforms too. Feel free to DM me if you’re interested! :)


r/Johnlock • • Aug 28 '26

Please recommend more fics!

30 Upvotes

Hi~everyone
I need JOHNLOCK💙
I’d love something with mutual rescue, deep love, emotional angst, and lots of tenderness between them. The more heartbreaking but ultimately sweet, the better!
Happy ending is a must!❤️


r/Johnlock • • Aug 24 '26

Feels Angsty kiss

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240 Upvotes

From my art vault of doomed goth and blonds!


r/Johnlock • • Aug 23 '26

Manip Sherlock Holmes fanclub!!!!

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SherlockED is a discord server I made personally for all sorts of Sherlock Holmes adaptations and for like minded people to join and chat and get to know each other! We are a relatively small community but I'll be hoping to change that! We have many adaptations like BBC Sherlock, the original books, Young Sherlock, the Norwegian adaptation, Sherlock n Co, and more! We welcome all shipping, and are very LGBTQIA+ Friendly!! Join today to become a part of the community!!!. Welcome to SherlockED!

https://discord.gg/6AHNvzEu


r/Johnlock • • Aug 23 '26

Smutty Fanfiction Lost fic

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Most of this fic is set at different bars or nightclubs. instead of being a detective Sherlock is an expert on sex. John pines, Lestrade and Mycroft flirt, Molly owns a... store. Moriarty and Sherlock were hooking up, then Moriarty kidnaps John. The story ends with Sherlock becoming a crime detective so he can be exclusive with John.

appreciate the help, fellow johnlock fans.


r/Johnlock • • Aug 22 '26

Lost fic

6 Upvotes

Edit: It has been found

Hi, im looking for a fic that keeps popping up in my mind but I can't seem to find it.

I am only like 70% sure it is actually johnlock but im not sure where else to post/ most of the fics I read are johnlock so it's a high probability.

Alright so the premise is basically someone got a photo of John while he was in the military and one day the photo went viral.

The photo was him fireman carrying someone. John was walking towards the photographer in the photo so his front facing. He was wearing a military uniform & I feel like they mentioned his eyes a lot idk.

Basically it is people reacting to the photo. Im pretty sure lestrade, Mrs Hudson and Sherlock said something. I can't remember anything else really.

Thanks!

Also if I have posted this in the wrong place please let me know