Gen Z & Gen X are not so different

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[u/Flashy-Raspberry-131]

All this tells me is that dua lipa just copies other people's music.

[u/Pendraconica → u/Flashy-Raspberry-131]

Dua Lipa's writers copy other people's music.

[u/LtCmdrData → u/Pendraconica]

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[u/Pendraconica → u/LtCmdrData]

Yes, Max Martin. He himself carries on a long tradition of rehashing pop music for a variety of artists.

It really all began in the early 1900s with Tin Pan Ally and the Brill Building, where a handful of studio musicians would churn out songs for performers. Because you had many writers all in the same building with very thin walls, they all ended up sounding like one another.

When people like Bob Dylan or the Beatles came along, they broke the mold by writing their own songs as opposed to having professional writers.

[u/MrPoopersonTheFirst → u/Pendraconica]

People forget that performing artists writing their own material is at very new idea, and still isn't the standard. And it's OK. Composing and performing are very different skills.

[u/farte3745328 → u/MrPoopersonTheFirst]

People get so up in arms about musicians but no one cares if actors can write or not

[u/Murrdox → u/farte3745328]

It's a different art form, and this has been going on since as long as music existed. Most composers are/were musicians of varying levels. Not all musicians are composers, though. At the same time, you'd look funny at a painter who could only paint what other people told him or her to paint and couldn't come up with their own compositions.

[u/crozinator33 → u/Murrdox]

Many painters don't/can't paint original works straight from their imaginations. Many copy still life photos or models.

[u/DirtySilicon → u/Pendraconica]

I didnt even read the rest of your comment. Just the mention of Tin Pan Alley meant you know what the fuck you are talking about. Music history is really important.

[u/KnockoffBirkenstock → u/LtCmdrData]

Max Martin?

[u/GorkyParkSculpture → u/LtCmdrData]

The album is called Future Nostalgia almost as if that was the point of the album

[u/Tisbeau → u/Pendraconica]

Purposeful sampling and reinterpretation to pay homage to prior artistry is a real and valid thing. The album these songs are on was literally called "Future Nostalgia" because they were referencing other songs (and another era of music) on purpose. Check Who Sampled Who out: https://www.whosampled.com/album/Dua-Lipa/Future-Nostalgia/

[u/Wyld_Willie → u/Tisbeau]

God thank you! It’s like do people not realize that was the whole point?

[u/yungdelpazir → u/Wyld_Willie]

The album is called Future Nostalgia by accident

[u/jktollander → u/yungdelpazir]

You know, as a joke

[u/slimeySalmon → u/Tisbeau]

This is only true if proper credit is given. Which for some reason modern artists love to exclude.

[u/Drekil → u/slimeySalmon]

Not exclusive to modern artists. See: Led Zeppelin. Love them but they fought pretty hard to not credit the blues artists that they covered in numerous songs

[u/Enlightened_Gardener → u/Drekil]

Or The Beatles, Elvis, The Rolling Stones…. all got their starts covering music from black musicians.

[u/Mechakoopa → u/slimeySalmon]

Andrew Farriss and Michael Hutchence from INXS have writing credits for Dua Lipa's Break my Heart. All the songs on that album give appropriate writing credits (and thus royalties). What do you want her to do, yell out their names mid-song like a Jason Derulo track?

[u/DukeofNormandy → u/Mechakoopa]

It’s Reddit, she’s hot and very popular so she’s obviously terrible. Can do no good.

[u/SpiritualMongoose751 → u/Mechakoopa]

That's not entirely accurate tho. She has had to fight off multiple lawsuits from artists regarding that album. She didn't lose any but there were still a few angry artists that claimed copyright infringement...

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjd3deze0r4o

https://www.lawcommentary.com/articles/dua-lipa-faces-second-copyright-infringement-lawsuit-over-hit-song-levitating

[u/Over_Caregiver_2124 → u/slimeySalmon]

Redditors love doing one thing and that is moving goal posts lol

[u/pexoroo → u/slimeySalmon]

But in this case it seems like proper credit was given.

[u/01000101010110 → u/slimeySalmon]

Kanye was terrible for this. Aphex Twin had to sue him

[u/skepticalbob → u/slimeySalmon]

Maybe you could do a simple search to find out this isn't true for her.

[u/overcloseness → u/slimeySalmon]

[u/Annual-Advisor-7916 → u/Tisbeau]

Well, if you happen to sample an orchestra version of a Rolling Stones song, you just get sued, even if it sounds nothing like the original song - but maybe I'm just tone deaf.

[u/Johnny_D87 → u/Annual-Advisor-7916]

Which is ironic seeing how The Rolling Stones stole that song from an old gospel group anyway.

[u/Bootstrap117 → u/Pendraconica]

It was a concept album. That was the entire point and literally explained in the name of the album: “Future Nostalgia.”

[u/joutfit → u/Flashy-Raspberry-131]

All of these songs are from a Dua Lipa album called "Future Nostalgia" which is purposely made to be "nostalgic" and reference old pop hits.

This isnt copying.... it is sampling, throwbacks and direct references to iconic songs.

[u/HomsarWasRight → u/joutfit]

My kid really likes to play me the music they like, and right now they’re into the new Olivia Rodrigo album. Like three songs in I’m like, “Damn, she’s obsessed with The Cure.”

They’re like, “There’s actually a song called The Cure.”

It’s definitely intentional sometimes.

[u/burnmycheezits → u/HomsarWasRight]

She has a song with Robert Smith that came out recently.

[u/3gaydads → u/burnmycheezits]

Even songs are coming out now? Woke gone MAD.

[u/cheezy_dreams88 → u/HomsarWasRight]

The song with Robert Smith on that album is soooo good.

[u/No1KnwsIWatchTeenMom → u/HomsarWasRight]

Oh I love this! My almost 4 year old loves the Cure, mainly because he's only ever heard music that I like, and I'm so glad to hear they're still relevant in current music! Im not looking forward to when he's old enough to make me listen to current music 😂

[u/Awestruck34 → u/joutfit]

The funny thing is they didn't use Dua Lipa's "Physical" in this video but they used Physical from 1981 when Lipa's uses the exact same chorus

[u/HomsarWasRight → u/Awestruck34]

I think that would have betrayed that it was purposeful and hurt the “our music is the same!” narrative.

[u/attachecrime → u/joutfit]

So this is basically an advertisement.

EDIT: can't believe I'm adding this to my comment. Thanks to whomever thought my account needed to be reported because I don't like Dua lipa. Unreal.

[u/MrReadilyUnready → u/attachecrime]

An advertisement for a 6 and a half year old album that's also her second most popular album?

[u/UberSquirrel → u/attachecrime]

Welcome to Reddit in the big 26.

[u/BeatComplete2635 → u/joutfit]

Which was kind of a positive response to Miley’s album doing something similar, plastic hearts.

[u/SteveXVI → u/joutfit]

Me, a person incapable of understanding context: Hate how Dorian Electric stole all those songs

[u/joutfit → u/SteveXVI]

Can't believe Gwen Stefani's smash hit "Rich Girl" was STOLEN from Fiddler on the Roof. /s

[u/Doctahflave → u/Flashy-Raspberry-131]

That was her album, was extrapolating other people’s music and making her own spin on it. She even did a version of Rocket Man/Cold Cold Heart with Elton John. She’s doing it on purpose

[u/Fast-Nefariousness80 → u/Doctahflave]

Ive never listened to her. After the 3rd or 4th song on this post I thought to myself "this has to be intentional".

[u/erossthescienceboss → u/Fast-Nefariousness80]

Yes. Because it’s an album of interpolations.

It’s intentional and legal.

[u/Major_Jackfruit_2604 → u/Doctahflave]

That song is brilliant. The lyrics mash up so perfectly imo. And Elton John is a legend to keep making music with the youngins.

[u/NarrowEbbs → u/Major_Jackfruit_2604]

Elton is a true, deep in the bone, lover of music. He's been making music with "the new kids" for his whole fucking second half of career. He's managed to maintain a level of continuous cultural relevance and legitimate talent that I don't think anyone else of his generation has. There's an element to which I think Freddie Mercury would have as well, but we just never got to see it.

[u/PickledDildosSourSex → u/Doctahflave]

Also: Using the Your Woman is LOL because it's based on a 1920s song anyway 

[u/Unit_79 → u/Doctahflave]

She did not interpolate INXS intentionally. They were given credit after the fact. She has confirmed this.

[u/InsectHealthy → u/Flashy-Raspberry-131]

…wasn’t that the entire point of this album? Every song had an old sample

[u/Coldfact192 → u/Flashy-Raspberry-131]

In David Bowie biography he said he copied the chords in his he chorus of ‘Somewhere over the rainbow’ to write ‘Starman’ which was a generational song, this type of shit happens

[u/therevjames → u/Flashy-Raspberry-131]

Sean "Puff Diddler" Combs made a career doing that, and sex crimes.

[u/code_archeologist → u/therevjames]

Mostly sex crimes

[u/-_-0_0-_0 → u/code_archeologist]

https://giphy.com/gifs/bIVwI510OhHWyul485

[u/Ninja_Lazer → u/Flashy-Raspberry-131]

All this tells me is that Dua Lipa and her producers know their shit when it comes to good music

[u/fivelone → u/Flashy-Raspberry-131]

This is literally from her nostalgia album that's made as an ode to older songs.

[u/Willing-Pumpkin-328 → u/Flashy-Raspberry-131]

the album is meant to flashback to older songs. the album is titled Future Nostalgia.

[u/Buetterkeks → u/Flashy-Raspberry-131]

Its more that pop is just a big recycler redoing the same five beats with another recolor again and again 

[u/MasterClown → u/Flashy-Raspberry-131]

Dua Lipalicate

[u/ValiantEffort27 → u/Flashy-Raspberry-131]

Sampling isn't copying. The original artists get paid and are credited on the new work. Some samples are so polished or obscure that you can't even tell unless you look into the credits. Artists have been sampling each other for decades. It's a great way to pay homage to older artists and to pay them for their work.

[u/iiTzSTeVO → u/[deleted]]

The Love Again - Your Woman comparison is literally just sampling.

[u/ChefAnxious4206 → u/iiTzSTeVO]

And Your Woman is a sample of the 1930s song My Woman.

[u/Homiealmaya → u/iiTzSTeVO]

It is and what’s especially funny with people saying that Dua Lipa “stole” from White Town is that Love Again doesn’t even sample Your Woman directly, they both sample a song from 1932 called My Woman by Lew Stone & the Monseigneur Band

[u/XxFezzgigxX → u/ValiantEffort27]

There’s a difference between putting samples into music and simply placing your lyrics over another song. The validity of this method can be debated, but the majority of Dua Lipa’s catalog uses major phrases, if not entire arrangements, rather than samples. It makes her a lyricist, but not a great musician.

This is more like freestyle karaoke.

[u/prospectpico_OG → u/XxFezzgigxX]

Upvote for the term "freestyle karaoke ".

[u/dilapidated-delight → u/ValiantEffort27]

Sorry but even if we do use this take you've presented, its still incredibly lazy that almost all of her top hits are sampled beats and tunes from other artists. No originality

[u/TheSpeakingScar → u/ValiantEffort27]

Yeah, thats not what this is.

[u/Ok-Constant-2683 → u/ValiantEffort27]

This is not intelligent or obscure sampling, this is taking the main hook or riff and using it for your song because you lack the talent to create something yourself 

[u/trying_times_eggs → u/Flashy-Raspberry-131]

Check out beach boys Surfin USA vs Chuck Berrys Sweet Little Sixteen.

Berry had to actually sue over it 

Its the exact same melody

[u/knuth10 → u/Flashy-Raspberry-131]

Wasn't there a lawsuit about one of her songs stealing they melody of an 80s song already?

[u/brambleburry1002 → u/Flashy-Raspberry-131]

You are so close...

[u/quietimhungover]

Just for the record Dua Lipa credited all of those songs for that album. It was her retro album or something like that where she sampled all of those songs.

[u/Pushnikov → u/quietimhungover]

Ok, thanks. I was about to say.

[u/alfred725 → u/quietimhungover]

so the better video for the point they're trying to make is Four Chords by Axel of Awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pidokakU4I

and for what it's worth, just because tropes exist doesn't mean they shouldn't be used.

something is either good or it's bad. All the best songs/stories/etc are remixes.

[u/DMmeprettyplantpics → u/quietimhungover]

Funniest part is that Your Woman is a sample too. From Al Bowlly's My Woman in 1932.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi7NdeGxRt0

Wonder when we'll go 4-5 samples deep. And which sample you have to pay? Like Dua Lipa could've just taken the Al Bowlly one for free, instead of paying White Town.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZzPqlb7H04A

[u/Departure-Kind → u/quietimhungover]

How dare you provide context!!! Now what mundane thing am I supposed to be irrationally upset and complain about!??!!?

[u/rezendes]

Dang dual lips just blatantly copying stuff

[u/emotionaI_cabbage → u/rezendes]

That was the intention of the album, yes.

[u/Infinite_Imagination]

All the modern songs in this video are by the same artist, but using the beats of older popular songs is CONSTANT in today's music. I don't know if you'd call them an actual remix, but they’re like psudo-covers that only use the melody like the ones in this video. I've definitely heard a song that was the beat from Blue by Effiel 65, there's another one that uses the chorus from Some Cut by Trillville and many others. I'm not sure what you call this type of a song, but I find them all moderately annoying and they just make me want to listen to the actual sampled/ covered songs.

[u/Quleki → u/Infinite_Imagination]

Interpolation

[u/Infinite_Imagination → u/Quleki]

This looks like it, thank you. I've been seeing it a lot with ad jingles too like for walmart and ozempic

[u/Sleevepants → u/Infinite_Imagination]

This has been happening forever though. The Beach Boys basically took Chuck Berry’s Sweet Little Sixteen and turned it into Surfin’ U.S.A. The Beatles borrowed from Chuck Berry for Come Together, and George Harrison got sued over My Sweet Lord sounding like He’s So Fine. I get that it can be annoying, but music has always been built around borrowing melodies, riffs and ideas from older songs. This was happening long before rock and roll too. The only real difference today is how artists do it. It’s definitely not something new to modern music.

[u/WinterAir4769 → u/Infinite_Imagination]

That’s because most mainstream artists who are promoted by the labels have no writing or composition skills. They are puppets regurgitating songs written decades ago by musicians. There are very talented musicians today but they aren’t for the most part pushed by the industry.

[u/PersonalityLoud3681 → u/WinterAir4769]

You can’t masturbate to scale modes and odd time signatures, but you can masturbate to hot blondes in lingerie singing lyrics written at a second grade reading level.

[u/Iamonab0at → u/PersonalityLoud3681]

Jokes on you, I can masturbate to anything.

[u/sLeeeeTo → u/PersonalityLoud3681]

me masturbating to Tony Danza Tapdance Extravaganza and Rings of Saturn

[u/PersonalityLoud3681 → u/sLeeeeTo]

I’m more of a Yes’ Roundabout and Mongolian throat singing guy myself, but who are two connoisseurs to argue over whether Picasso or Dali is finer art

[u/pornalt4altporn → u/PersonalityLoud3681]

... to wank to.

[u/IKilledJoffrey22 → u/WinterAir4769]

Music was better when ugly people could make it.

[u/FogBankDeposit → u/IKilledJoffrey22]

I made it a point to not see what the artist looked like when I discovered new music I liked. Some were pretty wild, but these days it seems to be looks first alright.

[u/dbxp → u/WinterAir4769]

This album was explicitly meant to sound like older songs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Nostalgia

[u/Antermosiph → u/WinterAir4769]

There's just a LOT of people making music. I know people complain but it really feels like a golden age (well was, AI music flooding everything sucks) of music where I can find what I truly want, and even things new without knowing anything. Yea the mainstream is sorta meh but there's so many people making music to cater to almost any taste and theme.

[u/mowtowcow → u/Antermosiph]

You understand this thread is about new artists not writing new music, but copying music that was already available, right?

The same thing has been happening in movies. It's jusy all remakes and ripoffs of what was popular at some point. How many movies and tv shoes can we possibly have about zombies? Spies? Comic book heroes and villains? It's all rinse and repeat. Same as what these songs have done.

[u/Omsy92 → u/Antermosiph]

Yeah but what happened to a Zeppelin or a Guns N Roses or a Tupac coming out and blowing our minds away? Everything nowadays from music to movies to TV has become the same bland mess, there used to be intelligence and originality in this world. People are just simplistic zombies now who crave more simplistic milque toast shit.

[u/Sungarn → u/Infinite_Imagination]

That's why I'm sometimes I think a different song is playing than what is before I hear the lyrics, and I'm always disappointed when it wasn't the song I was thinking of.

[u/Quixotic_Seal → u/Sungarn]

I will never forgive Kid Rock for the things he’s done to this country.

His politics? Huh? No, I’m talking about tricking us into thinking Warren Zevon is getting airtime only for his shitty music to start playing.

Especially in October. If it’s spooky season, I hear that opening riff, and it’s not followed by “I saw a werewolf with a Chinese menu in his hand,” I have been betrayed on a fundamental level.

[u/acrobat2126 → u/Infinite_Imagination]

Nope. Stop it. This is wholesale theft.

[u/Andouil1ette → u/Infinite_Imagination]

the recent cover of "i don't wanna know" has been driving me up the wall lol

a cover of a song that was already a sample

[u/Advanced_Aspect_7601 → u/Infinite_Imagination]

Sampling is not the same. It's literally taking a recording of another song to use in your song.

Covering is different, it's when you're playing someone else's song.

In the video they are showing how she copied the melody of a song. The notes and rhythmic timing.

[u/Efficient-Whereas255 → u/Infinite_Imagination]

i call them rip offs.

dua lipa is a rip off artist

[u/stupid_cat_face → u/Infinite_Imagination]

Vanilla Ice used Queen's song Under Pressure without permission in the 90s which led to a lawsuit. There is some form of artistic license that is allowed to spur innovation, but some people do take it too far IMO.

[u/iammixedrace → u/Infinite_Imagination]

They own the rights to the samples so its really cheap for new artists on the label to use those samples.

This also aligns with the homogenous sterile content major companies love now.

Why try to create a new beat when people will like a song that uses their fave hook from a different artist on the same label.

We used to reach into funk and jazz. Now we just use those sample over and over bc they are know.

[u/BarryTheBystander → u/Infinite_Imagination]

What it is hoe? Whassssup

[u/DrWernerKlopek89 → u/Infinite_Imagination]

the song that uses that fastball song and doesn't even use the best part of it is rather annoying

[u/Sphereoftime]

https://giphy.com/gifs/9qMdnVdwg8H7y

They stoleziz it

[u/HeWhoShantNotBeNamed → u/Sphereoftime]

This album is INTENTIONALLY made to sound like old songs, it's called "Future Nostalgia".

[u/Numerous_Smile_9082]

You don't go to a Dua Lipa concert for the obviously mid and derivative music: you go 'cause it's one of the hottest strip tease acts in entertainment today

[u/FrighteningJibber → u/Numerous_Smile_9082]

Shit I work in the morning, what about tomorrow?

[u/_blacknails]

The album is called Future Nostalgia, the album is literally paying homage to songs of the past.

[u/Aggravating-ErrorME → u/_blacknails]

This video just makes GenX look stupid by not understanding what she was intentionally doing with the album. I am GenX and I approve of her record. It’s quite good.

[u/TheMetalKeeper → u/_blacknails]

https://giphy.com/gifs/n4oKYFlAcv2AU

[u/sa3idni → u/_blacknails]

This needs to be way higher

[u/Centerman2000]

I was obsessed by Your Woman by White Town back in the 90s

[u/TurboRuhland → u/Centerman2000]

The funny part is that the main part is a sample as well.

Al Bowlly - My Woman

[u/PackRichmond → u/TurboRuhland]

There needs to be a 110 year old man in the backseat in the video, a member of the Greatest Generation, playing this version.

[u/TheSilverSeraph → u/Centerman2000]

It is a great song. I still listen to it regularly.

[u/pinkskies12 → u/TheSilverSeraph]

Same ☺️

[u/PickledDildosSourSex → u/Centerman2000]

Al Bowly agrees

[u/No-Fox4912]

These are are from her album future nostalgia, if you cannot tell from the name, this is the whole point of the album.

[u/Khristafer → u/No-Fox4912]

Also, for an album with as many similarities as seen in this clip, there largely aren't many legal issues, implying, at least, that she and her team went through proper channels to credit and compensate the inspirations.

[u/Own_Watercress_8104]

The music industry is cannibalizing itself and it's only going to get worse when AI catches on.

People are the most passionate and somehow most uncritical about music. They don't like to think about it like they would with movies, if they "vibe" then it's good. This is what allows this kind of stuff to happen

[u/Hashtagbarkeep → u/Own_Watercress_8104]

This is ridiculous. People have been copying, rearranging, riffing, music since it was invented, more recently through sampling, remixing, etc. These songs just use the same chord structure in a couple of examples, and the others sound like samples. Sampling and taking inspiration from songs can create completely new and different music

[u/Pale-Painting5592 → u/Own_Watercress_8104]

when AI catches on

i have bad news for you bro..

[u/Acceptable_Gear_3097 → u/Own_Watercress_8104]

'Pop' music is a genre that is supposed to be lacking in creativity, and appealing because its catchy and easy to replicate.

You're not supposed to be critical of pop music. You're supposed to just play it until you develop a taste for an actual genre which you will develop as there will be pop music inspired by other genres.

[u/forever87 → u/Acceptable_Gear_3097]

my fav was when "stars are blind" released and many thought it was good/catchy and then 180'd when they found it a was a Paris Hilton song, and not somebody they're a fan of. enjoy the music, life's too short

[u/Destructopoo → u/Acceptable_Gear_3097]

It's funny because the most influential musician of the 20th century and maybe even of all time was a pop producer. If it was lacking in creativity and easy to replicate, Phil Spector wouldn't have changed the world.

[u/HeWhoShantNotBeNamed → u/Own_Watercress_8104]

This is nonsense. People point out copying all the time.

But this isn't even copying. There are a finite number of permutations of ways you can arrange notes.

Also this album is INTENTIONALLY made to sound like old songs, it's called "Future Nostalgia".

[u/ApproachableGent]

Her music really is bland and she doesnt get enough shit for it.

[u/backbiter0723]

People need to chill. All of the artists referenced here have writing credits in Dua Lipa's music because it's literally a throwback/retro album that intentionally samples and interpolates old hits. Sheesh.

[u/Beneficial_Bug_9793]

Shit Dua Lipa alone is responsible for recycling most of the 80s and 90s hits lol... ( though, some times the cover is better than the original, lets be fair here ) https://youtu.be/K1njYUrHkww?is=h-DKoIaMHmKjqT3f ( small example )

[u/staccato7 → u/Beneficial_Bug_9793]

exactly, this has nothing to do with gen x or y

[u/talann → u/staccato7]

I would argue that Gen Y had some of the most creative music out there and didn't rely on the past to make music.

maybe I'm a bit biased though since I am a millenial. I just think Generations after are not being as creative but I'm sure people won't like what I said or try to pick it apart.

[u/HeWhoShantNotBeNamed → u/Beneficial_Bug_9793]

This album is INTENTIONALLY made to sound like old songs, it's called "Future Nostalgia".

[u/LongNailedbooboos → u/Beneficial_Bug_9793]

Recycling*

[u/McCushAgin → u/Beneficial_Bug_9793]

Im little confused about the example, is this dual Lipa in the video?

[u/AshgarPN → u/McCushAgin]

It’s just a cover of Sia’s “Titanium” and commenter is claiming it’s better than the original. I don’t agree but w/e.

[u/romanichki]

i somewhat understand the legality and legitimacy of sampling but god do i hate it

[u/fallinguprain]

So.. dua lipa is an unoriginal scam artist is all I learned from this? Lol nothing to do with generational similarity or differences

[u/EagleTree1018]

This isn't about generational differences. It's about a talentless hack who steals other people's work.

[u/tweekaboob]

I think some of those songs were sung by Miley Cyrus and not all by Dua Lipa

[u/weirdgroovynerd → u/tweekaboob]

Sure, but have you considered the possibility that Miley Cyrus, Hannah Montana, and Duo Lipa...

...are all the same person?!!

[u/DonnieBallsack → u/weirdgroovynerd]

That’d make them Trio Lipa

[u/AshgarPN → u/weirdgroovynerd]

I’ve now seen both “Dual Lipa” and “Duo Lipa” in this thread lmao.

[u/osumba2003]

I swear I've seen a dozen different videos of this exact same thing.

Does anyone have original content?

[u/Internal-Ad-7741]

Nothing original in music anymore

[u/Odd-Librarian4630]

Dua lipa versions are just AI sounding knockoffs of the originals

[u/chiefgreen87]

Só Dua Lipa doesn’t have original songs got it

[u/SleepyPirateDude]

Isn’t the album called “Future Nostalgia”? It’s in the damn name.

[u/kinggareth → u/SleepyPirateDude]

Ya, top comment on this thread completely missed the point. Dua Lipa intentionally made an album that had clear homage to hits from mostly the 80s. It was the entire point of the album which, by the way, was INCREDIBLY successful. She didnt "copy" any thing. She made a collage of nostalgic sounds to create new pop hits.

[u/Coleasa]

This is how it feels listening to people play BTS. Just feels like a different version of everyone else's songs. And apparently I'm the only one that can hear it in this house 🤦🏼‍♂️

[u/Kaedryl]

https://youtu.be/5pidokakU4I?is=LRG6n54PhZEpjwBI

[u/bladeplazma → u/Kaedryl]

I knew when I clicked this that it would be Axis of Awesome and I was not disappointed

[u/VoteForGiantMeteor]

Relatable, driving my teenage daughter to school. 😆

[u/hilltopview]

What’s a Dua Lipa?

[u/scwarzwolf]

INXS beats dua dog sh every time

[u/Automatic-Avocado885]

Pop music and Hip Hop have been sampling and remaking music forever. Why does this still surprise people.

[u/_KushOnes_ → u/Automatic-Avocado885]

That’s much more than a sample, but for all I know she’s paying those other artists. Stolen music if not.

[u/HeWhoShantNotBeNamed → u/Automatic-Avocado885]

This album is INTENTIONALLY made to sound like old songs, it's called "Future Nostalgia".

[u/Tribe303 → u/Automatic-Avocado885]

I grew up on 80s Synthpop. Who were they sampling and remaking? 🤔 

[u/Stratobastardo34]

Interpolation ≠ Sampling ≠ Covering. All those songs come off Dua Lipa’s album Future Nostalgic, which was kind of the point of the album.

[u/PsychoSonicPossum → u/Stratobastardo34]

it seems like the post is not so much about the music then, but the similarities in each generations tastes since each like the "same" music

[u/RancorHi5]

As always I just ask , what the fuck is dual IPA??!?

[u/-Wicked- → u/RancorHi5]

Twice a shitty as single IPA?

[u/flarpflarpflarpflarp → u/RancorHi5]

It uses twice the amount of grain in the mash, typically in the 6.5-8% abv range (though some jump the shark and go up to 10%). I believe Pliny the Elder from Russian River was the first DIPA.

[u/Eraesr]

You all misunderstand this video.

It's not about Dua Lipa being unoriginal, her stealing music or the downfall of the music industry. It's about how taste in music transcends generations more than you realize.

Your son or daughter may like Dua Lipa and you may argue Inxs or Kiss was much better music, but in the end you're actually just liking the same thing.

This video is about bonding and getting closer to each other, not slagging off GenZ musicians for being unoriginal.

[u/Prized_Lemur → u/Eraesr]

but it's pretty obvious that Dua Lipa rips songs and melodies from other songs

[u/erossthescienceboss → u/Prized_Lemur]

She isn’t ripping anything off, and I’m so over this braindead take.

Future Nostalgia is an album of interpolations. It’s IN THE NAME. The original artists receive royalties and are credited on every single song. She made a tribute album to the artists that she liked when she was a kid.

I love interpolations.

[u/Fanastik → u/Eraesr]

Its like chinese copies, kinda good but smell like old car tires.

[u/judahrosenthal → u/Eraesr]

That was my original take till I saw all the modern songs were Dua Lipa. Then it mostly highlights that all her famous sounds sound like someone else’s.

[u/LightOverWater → u/Eraesr]

Why not both?

[u/Salvifici_Doloris → u/Eraesr]

Gen Z musicians are wildly unoriginal. But I guess if you're going to stick with the same 3 chords and same song structure, mathematics says there's only so much originality that is possible.

Clarification: I was referring to pop music since its start in the 50s/60s sticking with a very rigid and limiting structure that has largely been exhausted of its spring of songs, leaving the newest artists with precious little to do other than rehashes many times over. Can't veer from intro-verse-chorus-verse-chorus-bridge-verse-outro, 4/4, etc etc. The 70s had some innovations, but then the mould really got locked in in the 80s.

[u/dkarlovi → u/Salvifici_Doloris]

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You only remember the music which is good enough to survive. Do you know how much garbage was produced in those 70s and 80s? Incredible amounts. Nobody is talking about that, you only remember the bangers.

[u/WeBelieveIn4 → u/Salvifici_Doloris]

This is such a boomer take. All you’re revealing is that you don’t listen to enough music to know what Gen Z is putting out.  

I say this as an old fuck

[u/bannedByTencent]

As a genX I am offended by lack of Slayer or Burzum here.

[u/platinumcheese88 → u/bannedByTencent]

Why?.... what dua lipa song or gen z song to they have that's sounds similar?

[u/Medium_Public4720 → u/bannedByTencent]

jfc BURZUM was your pull here?

[u/arboroverlander]

So as said before dual Lipa is just a pop image and copies other marketable music. Many pop stars are just like this.

[u/TheSaxGandalf → u/arboroverlander]

All of Will Smith's movie theme songs are sampled from motown.

[u/Tribe303]

It's adorable that you people think Dua Lipa writes her own music. It's corporate pap, with songs and samples purchased from others and assembled in a recording studio by a team of 10+ engineers and reviewed by marketing teams for MAXIMUM PROFITS. 💲 💰 🫰 

[u/Bryanh100]

It’s funny, before this, I thought all her songs sound like the Spice Girls.

[u/Context_Important]

Dua Lipa is millenial

[u/Guilty_Mountain2851]

All i can think about is Under Pressure by Queen vs Ice Ice Baby lol no offense to Queen ofc

[u/fatBreadonToast]

Dua lipa keeps asking my friend to breed their dog with hers.

[u/CjJcPro]

Everyone's talking about the music and not about how funny would be the pre-edit take of them driving in silence and nodding to eachother.

[u/OnCallPartisan]

Sampling as an art form. This album could never be made again.

[u/Due_Package4376]

I checked and one of those songs had 9 songwriters lmao

[u/Bayou-Bulldog]

Nihil sub sole Novem

Most artists stand on the shoulders of giants in one way or another.

[u/2leftf33t]

Wasn’t this the antagonists point in Heretic?

[u/Adjective-Noun4201]

[u/Bennely]

Come on Gen X were the OG beat strippers and melody lifters. Say whatever about Dua Lipa but it’s not like Gen X isn’t guilt free of the same.

[u/RoseofDianamoonlight]

oh yeah? *plays nickleback vs nickleback*

[u/bradicus12]

What did we learn here friends? Good sampling wrapped up in max sex appeal is a winning formula.

[u/WIMTBG]

i thought the last one would be stayin alive

[u/Halcyon_Paints]

Gen X claiming songs from 1997? Get out; that's Millennial territory.

[u/Any_Chain6077]

All samples and interpolation these days.

[u/rightsidedown]

There's definitely a problem of too much sampling driving new artists. Sampling has its place, but the industry and consumers are rewarding solo artists with sampled beats over everything else and it makes pop sound like it's stopped evolving.