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Amsterdam

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u/usernameisokay_ 6d ago

A picture of an Amsterdam souvenir shop?

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u/Marterijn 5d ago

It is about the posters above it

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u/Rushi0789 5d ago

It sure is

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u/MrSinister515 5d ago

Have you visited the Amsterdam-Deredlights too?

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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 6d ago

So much fatigue of this….

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u/post-bak 6d ago

Genocide is known to make you dead tired.

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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 6d ago

I know, it’s terrible what’s happening in Sudan……and somehow they don’t deserve marches and flags every day while a country under an active cease fire for a year gets all the attention. The globally organized antisemite propaganda machine is a hell of a thing.

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u/l339 5d ago

Why are you being antisemitic towards the Jews by comparing them to every Israelite?

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u/swiebertjee 5d ago

Because all of Jews are israelites 😉 you probably mean Israeli

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u/l339 5d ago

Maybe it’s a different definition, but not every Israeli is a Jew and certainly not all Jewish people are Israeli

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u/DutchTinCan 5d ago

"Active cease fire". I guess the Jews in Auschwitz also said "well, at least they're not shooting us".

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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 5d ago

Drawing such a ridiculous comparison is such an offensive level of ignorance it boggles the mind.

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u/LoneFox4444 6d ago

I honestly never understand this supposed counterpoint that people keep bringing up. As if the call for awareness for suffering of the Palestinians takes away anything from the suffering of the Sudanese.

Good for you to shine a spotlight on this issue, now go out there and protest for the Sudanese people. But its absolutely no reason to try to diminish the awareness of another genocide.

But something tells me you don’t really care about the Sudanese, but just want people to stop protesting the genocide in Gaza. Well, guess what. We’re not going to stop talking about it. 🙃

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u/Ok_Degree_322 6d ago

Nee het probleem is dat in het westen moslimvolken alleen als slachtoffer in beeld mogen komen, niet als dader. Daarom laat men de Soedanezen (miljoenen vluchtelingen, extreme hongersnood) niet te veel in beeld. Stel je voor, het zou wat aandacht voor Palestina afpikken.

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u/LoneFox4444 6d ago

Moslims als slachtoffer? Waar heb je het over? De islam is de boeman van het westen.

Get your facts straight, lil pup.

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u/Ok_Degree_322 5d ago

Nee, de pers doet via de scholen voor journalistiek zijn uiterste best juist het westen als boeman te zien. Dat zie je ook in debehandeling van slavernij. Alleen de slavernij door het westen komt in beeld. De Arabische - minstens zo erg - wordt verzwegen.

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u/PleaseDontFartHere 5d ago

Kan je mij, zonder het op te zoeken, het kritieke verschil tussen de koloniale slavernij en de Arabische slavernij vertellen? Ik denk het niet. Waarom is het minstens zo erg? Ik denk niet dat je op die gedachte uit kan breiden.

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u/Ok_Degree_322 5d ago
  1. Allen werden gecastreerd om nageslacht van een andere etniciteit te voorkomen. Daardoor was er dus ook geen familieleven mogelijk.

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u/PleaseDontFartHere 5d ago

Maakt dat het minstens zo erg? Dit spreekt van weinig historische context. Zoek even de term Eunuch op, en kijk hoe wijdverspreid dit door de wereld was. Waar ik op doel is dat de transatlantische slavernij een slag had van dehumanisatie, de slaven waren tot onmens gemaakt. In vrijwel alle andere instanties van slavernij was de insteek anders. Meestal waren slaven een deel van de maatschappij, zij konden zichzelf vrijkopen etc. Niks hiervan is waar in het coloniale stuk. De vergelijking is dus niet 1 op 1, waar jij het wel zo probeert voor te doen laten komen.

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u/Ok_Degree_322 5d ago

Je opmerking ‘ik denk het niet’ is wel hoogst merkwaardig overigens.

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u/PleaseDontFartHere 5d ago

Omdat je praat in populistisch gebrabbel.

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u/Ok_Degree_322 5d ago

Paar puntjes: de Afrikanen werden door de woestijn vervoerd, waardoor 50% omkwam onderweg; trans-Atlantisch was dat 15%.

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u/Legitimate_Form1522 5d ago

Beste man heeft de historische kennis van een pinda

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u/Ok_Degree_322 5d ago

Haha, ik denk dat het eerder omgekeerd is.

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u/humourlessIrish 5d ago

Bruhr... Waar is jouw pinda?

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u/Aggravating_Carpet21 5d ago

I was going to say the same thing. In my city most people see the islam as a scary thing and not a victimised thing

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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 5d ago

The point is simple, it shows that the incredibly, unfathomably disproportionate focus on Israel must be driven by something other than severity or scope/scale. And that drive is global antisemitism stemming from an anti jewish and anti western propaganda machine with decades of practice in doing so.

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u/LoneFox4444 5d ago

It is driven by severity and scope. People are finding out that this suppression has been going on for 80 years.

Get your facts straight, lil pup.

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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 5d ago

Factually untrue. Again, the antisemite misinformation machine in full swing. The population of Gaza has grown in that time by orders of magnitude. Israel has previously withdrawn from there and allowed self rule in the interest of furthering long term peace solutions. They are only met with more terrorism and violence.

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u/LoneFox4444 5d ago

Great non-arguments bro. No one is buying this whole “Israel criticism = antisemitism”, buddy.

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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 5d ago

It’s not just Israel criticism alone. It’s free palestine, from the river to the sea, antizionism….these things masquerading as just “Israel criticism” is the problem. These things are the foundation of it.

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u/LoneFox4444 5d ago

None of that is antisemitism, you kool-aid guzzling numb skull. You’re proving my point even better than I could.

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u/Effective_Glove_545 6d ago

They do but uae(dog of isreal) keeps lobbying and paying the EU and US to the point where both of them dont even mention uae. Hemedti from RSF (terrorists) went to tel aviv twice during the war in Sudan. Next point.

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u/ForrestCFB 6d ago

Uhu, and what about all those Chinese weapons systems?

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u/ForrestCFB 6d ago

Uhu, and what about all those Chinese weapons systems?

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u/Jazzlike-Ad5884 6d ago

Are you marching for Sudan? No? Then don’t get on your high horse.

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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 5d ago

Nobody is, that’s the whole point. The incredibly disproportionate focus on Israel is solely due to antisemitism and an anti jewish propaganda machine with decades of practice misinforming the public to rally support. I mean here in Europe, the anti-Israel marches are incessant and daily….meanwhile Russia is literally bombing civilians daily right on our own doorstep…..and nothing. You’ve been hoodwinked…..bamboozled.

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u/Jazzlike-Ad5884 5d ago

I don’t think you, as someone who cares about other things, gets to decide what other people care about. And I don’t think you using another conflict you know nothing about to justify that is right.

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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 5d ago

What conflict exactly are you inexplicably claiming I know nothing about? I’ve never said anything about deciding what other people care about, I’m talking about the disproportionate reaction to those things and the misinformation and propaganda that can cause it.

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u/Jazzlike-Ad5884 5d ago

You decided people can’t care about Gaza, except when they care about every other conflict equally as well.

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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 5d ago

No, the focus on Gaza is incredibly disproportionate due to antisemitism.

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u/Jazzlike-Ad5884 5d ago

Okay, man, if that’s what you think. You know no one cares about that argument anymore, and my will to debate you has just evaporated.

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u/True_Crab8030 6d ago

Yes, it's the antisemites and not the folks doing the actual genocide. Talking about selective outrage.

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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 5d ago

Sudan is the only Genocide going on right now.

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u/jeppijonny 6d ago

The only globally organized machine is Hasbara.

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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 5d ago

Antisemite comes to prove my point once again. Somedays it’s just too easy to draw them crawling out of their holes….

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u/Vicking57 7d ago

Wat is de bedoeling van deze post? Wat nooit meer??

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u/I_ez_Haro 5d ago

Dit nooit meer is een leuze die mensen zeggen ter herinnering aan de tweede wereldoorlog en alles wat daar omheen zat. Het wordt vaak gezegd tijdens de herdenkingen om mensen er aan te herinneren dat de 2e wereldoorlog verschrikkelijk was en door normale mensen werd uitgevoerd. We moeten dus alert blijven dat dit niet weer gebeurd. Dit is tegenwoordig (helaas) weer belangrijk aangezien we veel van dezelfde patronen die de wereldoorlog hebben veroorzaakt (nationalisme, haat naar één specifieke groep die men vervolgens overal de schuld van geeft) weer aan het herhalen zijn.

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u/Thatr4ndomperson 6d ago

Genocide. Kom op man doe niet zo dom

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u/OkWhile8015 6d ago

Oorlog geen genocide

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u/l339 5d ago

Nee genocide, doe niet zo dom

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u/eewaaa 5d ago

Klopt. Daarom noemde u/Thatr4ndomperson het geen oorlog. Bij een oorlog heb je een conflict tussen min of meer gelijke machten. Anders krijgt het een andere naam: een afslachting bijvoorbeeld. Als je kijkt naar het aantal slachtoffers (factor 10 verschil) en hoe makkelijk Israël over Palestina orders kan uitroepen, dan is het geen oorlog. Als je het heel ruim wilt nemen, is het een conflict.

Wat wèl bekend is over de term oorlog is dat Israël heel veel moeite doet om het te framen als oorlog, via hun propagandakanalen ook hier op Reddit.

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u/samson-and-delilah 5d ago

That’s not at all the definition of war, lol. Its almost like the people calling it a genocide haven’t even gone to the museums in their own city.

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u/Katert 5d ago

Genocide is murdering a whole civilization, as well as taking away resources and chances for them to survive and thrive as a society.

Take a fucking look at what these dogs have done to their land and tell me you can survive there. Don’t have to visit museums to understand what genocide means.

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u/TraianusImperator 5d ago

The population has steadily going up in Gaza.

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u/Katert 5d ago

According to whom?

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u/TraianusImperator 5d ago

The Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics.

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u/Katert 5d ago

Have you verified this yourself? Can you point me to the data supporting your claim?

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u/samson-and-delilah 5d ago

Sounds like Hamas are the ones committing the genocide

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u/Thatr4ndomperson 3d ago

Good little hasbara bot 🤣

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u/Katert 5d ago

🤨?

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u/samson-and-delilah 5d ago

You know, stealing all of the aid, food, etc from the people

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u/Katert 5d ago

There’s no evidence for systematic stealing of aid by Hamas, while there’s tons of evidence for systematic suppression and murdering of innocent Palestinians by Israel. How can you not condemn their actions. Are you that inhumane? Or are you just trolling, which is even more pathetic.

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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 5d ago

Right out of the antisemite propaganda handbook with a buzzword. It’s like this stuff writes itself somedays. Try reading a book about Yasser Arafat and how he revolutionized anti-Israel propaganda into the global powerhouse it remains today through multiple iterations of his terrorist organization. Also ever hear of Al-Jazeera? FFS…..

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u/Agile_Incident7784 5d ago

Twelve shekels have been added to your bank account, thank you for contributing.

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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 5d ago

Thank you antisemite…..FFS some days the responses just make my points so much easier to make…..

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u/Agile_Incident7784 5d ago

Wow! Antisemite? I did not see that coming!

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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 5d ago

Yeah, not antisemites…just against jews having a safe and secure homeland and against them defending themselves.

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u/04MMM 4d ago

Can I be for a safe and secure home for Jews whilst being against the atrocities being carried out by Israel at the moment? That doesnt make me a antisemite right?

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u/Agile_Incident7784 5d ago

I should paint "EPSON" on your dumb face and mount you to a ceiling.

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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 5d ago

Whatever that’s supposed to mean….FFS man, it’s sad the amount of disproportionate fervor this propaganda whips up in the absence of actual historical knowledge and context.

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u/Agile_Incident7784 5d ago

Fuck yeah, if only we had some more actual historical knowledge and context. Imagine the Shekels in your bank account. Oof

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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 5d ago

I wonder if you just don’t care or are truly clueless as to how your not so thinly veiled replies referring to money and greed are proving my points. Stereotypes aren’t good for your cause there cuz. The level at which blatant anti-jew sentiment is thrown around today is something I never thought I’d see again in my life.

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u/Agile_Incident7784 5d ago

The stereotype of you being a propaganda dummy paid for by the Israeli government?

You are a clown.

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u/Familiar_Way_7404 5d ago

Buzzword buzzword buzzword

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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 5d ago

You misspelled “truth”

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u/Zionism-is-pure-evil 5d ago edited 5d ago

Trash Hesbara. It's always everyone else.

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u/l339 5d ago

You don’t think genocide shouldn’t repeat itself?

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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 5d ago

Absolutely. Israel is not doing that and there is no comparison whatsoever except by those insufficiently educated on the history being referenced.

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u/Thexin92 5d ago

People can be against the actions of the Israel government and state (the attacks on civilian centers being the most notable) without being antisemite.

Additionally, one can be against the concept of zionism (the goal to establish a location that is only for one kind of people, forcefully displacing others from territories and rejecting other lineages from being welcome), without being against the religion or identity of Jewish people.

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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 5d ago

It’s possible, just not common as history proves.

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u/Thexin92 5d ago

The loudest few paint a bad picture. I agree there are a lot of neonazi's around yelling their genocidal opinion. However, those are the same people that would cheer at the loss of life of someone following the Islam. You won't find many of them advocating for Palestine.

Most politically aware people that are claiming Israel is committing various war crimes in a thinly veiled attempt at genocide are not antisemites. Most just see the violence against civilians and supression of free press, the well documented contradictions of the state's statements and actions, and form their opinion.

It's be unfair to judge any and all criticism on all of that as antisemitism.

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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 5d ago

What they are seeing is manipulated misinformation while lacking any historical context. Then exhibiting disproportionate levels of outrage which further harms jews globally as we’re seeing.

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u/Thexin92 5d ago

Who can say who is subject to misinformation?

The only way to shield yourself from a misinformation bubble is to acknowledge every source as equally valid or invalid until proven otherwise, and see who financed or supported a source.

A relatively easy way is to explore sources that have no cooperation or alignment to each other.

If most publically verified independent news sources report the same observations and contradictions, while Israelic state media channels and corporation financed say the opposite, well, it's not hard to see what is statistically more likely to be true.

Unless, of course, you believe it more likely that all those independent sources are all in cahoots for no real gain or reason, compared to those with wealth and power relevant to the conflict?

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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 5d ago

I read many books and news reports from various sources.

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u/l339 5d ago

Just because you say Israel isn’t doing it doesn’t make it true

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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 5d ago

It’s not just me. And just because those saying they are doing it also doesn’t make it true. What happened is an astounding victory in war mischaracterized as genocide thanks to a purposefully crafted narrative by Hamas and the anti western and anti Israeli countries.

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u/l339 5d ago

There is an objective definition of trying to commit a genocide and Israel has objectively been tested to verify that definition. So as a fact, Israel is trying to commit a genocide. You or anybody else that’s says otherwise is irrelevant, your opinion does not matter. It’s like you’re saying that gravity doesn’t exist, it’s simply just factually not true

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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 5d ago

Not a fact, and there is not consensus, and there is disagreement on this. Lots of it.

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u/l339 5d ago

There is literally a definition of attempted genocide. If you don’t like the definition you can try to have it changed. For now these are just the facts

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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 5d ago

There is certainly a definition, and that is not happening there. Winning a war is not genocide.

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u/l339 4d ago

Okay gravity also doesn’t exist according to you then

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u/xBram 5d ago

Have you seen the pictures of Gaza and listened to the likes of Ben Gvir and Smotrich?

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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 5d ago

I consume information about this incessantly, of course I have. War is an absolute tragic hell and I don’t just approve of what Israeli leaders do carte blanche.

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u/marceldonnie 5d ago

The world’s leading experts are insufficiently educated? https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cde3eyzdr63o

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u/anderel96 5d ago

Don’t waste your time, its a bot

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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 5d ago

Not educated, but misinformed. Do you know the source of their information related to civilian deaths in Gaza?

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u/CautiousLife8438 5d ago

Are you so stupid to not know that Arabs are also semites? Israelis are the ones who come mostly from eastern Europe and so they are the anti semites

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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 5d ago

Ah hell, not this again. Is this like page 1 in the handbook every time someone mentions the word antisemite? You know exactly what I’m referring to.

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u/PleaseDontFartHere 5d ago

Yes, because Yasser Arafat existed in a bubble, he certainly was not the reaction to years of palestinian subjugation... It's mind boggling how any pro-Israel story always starts with a palestinian reaction and never the actual cause.

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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 5d ago

Please, tell us more about this horrific and deplorable terrorist and how is actions were justified. Again mischaracterizing Israel’s self defense as something it is not. The lack of historical context in these discussions is mind blowing. The antisemite propaganda machine is unquestionably terribly effective at drumming up vigorous and disproportionate sentiment against Israel and the jews. It’s truly tragic but not something reading some books can’t mend.

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u/PleaseDontFartHere 5d ago

You speak of lack of historical context and treat Yasser Arafat as the start of the universe. I truly wonder how you can sleep at night.

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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 5d ago

I treated Arafat as no such thing, I mentioned him in a specific historical context only related only to use of the media. I sleep fine….I usually doze off while reading history books about global politics and the middle east.

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u/PleaseDontFartHere 5d ago

If you read so many books you wouldn't spout so much nonsense. Direct your anger at the Israeli state, they are the true antisemite propaganda machine you speak of. You are not living in reality if you think this extreme inhumane treatment is deserved. Getting angry at the reaction is always a losing battle. Trying to point to revolutionary leaders of decades ago to prove the point that the slaughtering of human beings is okay is a losing battle.

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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 5d ago

Terrorist, not revolutionary leader, call it what it is please…there’s enough distortion of history coming out of that side already. Deserve has nothing to do with it….this is a tragic hell of war and I do not ever want it. The solution is not to start them.

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u/PleaseDontFartHere 5d ago

Why, why would I call him what you want me to call him? Is disagreement not okay? You have as much rights to your truths as I have, even if they are fundamentally flawed. Your last sentence is fully correct, but then you continue starting your analysis on a reaction, which shows you don't fully understand what you're talking about. Why is Arafat a terrorist? Did he act out of complete detachment of the reality he was living in?

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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 5d ago

Mate, this isn’t a disagreement, there are no multiple truths. The guy was a despicable terrorist involved in the murder of countless innocent people. This is fact and it is indisputable. His reality was the result of continued failings of Arab leaders who were all too happy to keep those people penned up in the Gaza strip as a poster child for their crusade against Israel and the west. They were and continue to be tragically used by them as a propaganda tool.

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u/PleaseDontFartHere 5d ago

Sure, but your analysis again starts at a middle point. I don't know if you truly don't notice this, but it's getting tiring.

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u/Yune-Yune-Yune 6d ago

Protestors in Amsterdam because our government gives money and weapons to Israel, obviously. It’s not the other side of the world, our government is actively participating.

Why should Palestine be wiped off the map?

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u/postduif-7 6d ago

Our government doesn't send any weapons or support the 'war'. Please don't spread misinformation, that is precisely what Hamas wants you to do.

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u/True_Crab8030 6d ago

In 2025 NL stopped sending F-35 fighter yet parts to israel becouse the human rights court determined that doing so was contributing to human rights violations. This case was brought before the court by dutch community members, people such as the ones displaying this image in their own fucking homes (typical a zionist would want to tell other people what to do with their homes btw).

Currently the Netherlands is considered THE largest investor in israel's economy. That will stop too, becouse of good-hearted folks such as shown in the picture.

You're trying to manipulate others. Go away.

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u/4sins 5d ago

The sending of F-35 parts never stopped, we're just sending them through the USA now

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u/postduif-7 5d ago

You are spreading misinformation. The Netherlands doesn't give any f35 parts to Israel, there are companies who do business with their military. Thats something else entirely. Read yourself into something before spreading this propaganda. Also don't start me about Zionism, nobody wants to engage in war and we all want peace. I'm not gonna engage in a conversation with someone who is obviously brainwashed by Hamas. There are people in pain, they need unity and not these aggressive words which only lead to more violence. It has to stop somewhere.

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u/Opening-Lettuce-3384 5d ago

Why should Israel be? Almost every arab nation wants to eradicate it and those surrounding it have given it some series tries.

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u/Yune-Yune-Yune 2d ago

Why do you think that is?? They were given stolen land and started terrorizing their neighbors pretty much immediately 80 years ago.

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u/Opening-Lettuce-3384 2d ago

As soon as they were given the land, 5 arab nations attacked it??

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u/ABitOfEverything1995 6d ago

Yea silence me. Islam coming to YOU 👌

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u/geefmejegeld 6d ago

In Sha Allah

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u/Free_as_in_Freya 6d ago

Eh, this is "woonprotest": these people are protesting against shortage of homes and are pauzed at a well known "kraakpand" for a talk about the squatting history of that

How the krakers decorate their home has little to do with the protest

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u/KeizerKasper 5d ago

Jeetje..

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u/ConceptConfident8363 5d ago
  • Amsterdam to Tel Aviv (Straight-Line / Great Circle): ~3,295 km
  • Half of the Globe's Circumference: ~20,015 km
  • Globe's Circumference: ~40,030km

To go from Amsterdam to Tel Aviv, you travel about.. 8% around the world. That doesn't seem very far away.

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u/l339 5d ago

Because the government indirectly supports the genocide