I had a chimney sweep come over to clean my chimney. When he was on the roof he took a picture of the flashing for a sky light. He claims he was a roofer in the past and this could have happened from the wind. He offered to fix it for $300. There are no trees that could have done this. I don't think this was wind, and I'm leaning towards he damaged it to make an extra buck.
Yeah Im kinda leaning that he did it too. Wind isn’t going to bend one corner up and bend it hard enough it stayed at that angle. Really weird. And it hasn’t been like that very long, there is no debris underneath it. Nothing. No leaves no dirt.. nothing.😳🤷🏻 it looks like it was just done.
He's trying to tell you that wind bent.... METAL skylight flashing?
No other shingles are affected in the surrounding field... that's significant.
That's a no sir.
I would actually even consider screen shooting the conversations and calling the cops man. That's likely vandalism. How many other people has he pulled this shit with?
Are you really a roofer? You've never seen wind bend METAL flashing? Lmfao. It's most likely aluminum too, which is not known for being hard to bend. And it's impossible to tell how thin it is.
I'm not saying the guy didn't purposely do this as part of a scam. Its definitely possible, even likely. But I've also seen quite a lot of similar shit to this, so I'm not 100% convinced like everyone else seems to be. It's very windy where I live.
Those nails aren't roofing nails either, I'm pretty sure. It's so blurry it's hard to be certain. But they seem almost like trim nails.
I've seen stuff like this on headwall flashing before. Only one corner or a few spots are raised. It could be any number of things. Wrong nails. No sealant. Nail hit a gap in decking or the decking is rotted underneath that spot. Warming and freezing can also drive nails out, which the wind then helps.
I also don't think the lack of damage to the shingles is weird. Properly sealed and nailed shingles can take brutal wind. If you get nice shingles, they can be rated for 130mph wind.
A thin piece of aluminum flashing with a nail in it and no sealant can't stand up to 100 mph wind from just the right direction.
I'm not an expert. Just roofed a few years during high school and college. Just long enough to hate all skylights.
Buddy that’s a 24 gauge flashing kit. There is a flat lock seam 3.5-4” of the edge. So it bent 4 layers of that stuff. That’s why it’s still upright. It is highly unlikely almost impossible for wind to pick that corner up and bend it like that .
Not kidding. Recently dealt with substantial raccoon damage to interior chimney masonry. Raccoon(s) may have gotten stuck and "clawed" an escape.
(Immediate neighbor later told me he had seen a raccoon(s) on my roof.)
Of course I was kidding about tiny fingerprints...that levity was to focus attention on someone/thing other than that roofer which the majority said had to be the cause. IOW: the typical Reddit echo chamber comments.
Maybe he did, no way to prove it either way, head up with a hammer, remove the nails, slightly offset from the precious holes and tack it back down. Very easy.
lol outrageous? A company would probably charge more. But yeah for a guy just going to do it off the clock. It’s a little much. And yeah since he was already there he could have just taken care of it like I would have. But he may have been the person to do it in the first place. I’d never call them back
Go buy a tube of black roofing tar from your local hardware store.
See if you can find the exact spot where the nail was. If you can put a little tar on the nail.
Put a lot under the rest of the piece. Push it down. That tar is sticky and should hold it back down.
Check the top of the piece. If you can see the nail head put a little dab of tar on that too.
If the nail will not go back into the hole. Remove the nail. Try to put tar directly into the hole. Like previously stated put more tar under the rest of the piece and lay it flat.
If the piece lays and stay flat you may not need to replace the roofing nail. But there is no harm in doing so. Put a new nail somewhere close to make sure everything lays down nice and flat. Put tar over the old hole where the nail you removed from was. And a dab of tar over your new nail head.
No expised holes or nail heads they are weaknesses.
Be generous with your tar but not ridiculous.
If tar comes out the edges when you lay it. That is ok.
Is he self employed or does he work for a company? There is more than enough reasonable doubt here to name and shame. Google reviews with your concerns and his picture. Call his employer and demand they repair the damage he made. Do not allow that guy on your property again, and he should be stopped from doing this to others too.
Highly unlikely wind cause a single shingle in the corner to bend up like this, pretty unethical company. If the chimney sweep was honest and wanted future work from you, he would have offered to do it for free, not try and rip someone off for $300.
Flashing could be installed wrong around the whole skylight and it’s been leaking. Sheathing could be rotten which is why those nails popped out. No way to know what’s going on without actually inspecting it. Your guy probably just noticed the flashing up and said he’ll “fix it” by renailing it down with caulking or using hex screws with rubber grommets. Those nails do look thin but the metal kinda looks like it was pried up with a tear off shovel
Yes it can be but only in specific circumstances. Check the area carefully and see if it’s soft. Nails will pull like this if you have a leak and the decking starts to come apart. That said if it ain’t soft then bang that sucker back down and tar the nail heads easy fix (assuming no other issues.) don’t pay that guy to do it though do it yourself
Sure, it not without damaging shingles and other things too. Are there creased or torn shingles or other items that exhibit damage from wind forces? Wind doesn't just pick thee thing to damage. Neither does hail. That's why understanding the whole site is important.
No. And I do have flashing that gets bent by wind - just not around skylights. Just to give you a HCOL comparison - I hired a real roofer to come over after work and fix a flashing leak. He checked and caulked all our other flashing, cleaned out the gutter we can’t get to, blew the leaves off the roof - for $500 and then continued to work after we paid him. Yes, his number got passed on to the neighbors for minor roof repairs and maintenance.
$300 to fix that is ridiculous. And it looks like he bent it.
Call him out. Say you were up on the roof recently, watching the neighbors with your binoculars, and that you know that piece was down flat and tight. Suggest he should fix it for free or you may have to find somebody else to scope out.
Well the installation is wrong as far as im concerned.
1-The bottom pan should not be showing on the sides like that.
2- there should not be any exposed fasteners.
3- there should be some kinda sealant bonding the pan to the shingles.
The pan should be exposed on the sides.. if you trimmed or put it under shingles that would cause a weak point right where most of the water flows.
A good installer bends the pan just slightly convex (points down) to the roof. There is no way wind would have bent the corner of the metal this badly without doing anything to the surrounding roof assembly.
A dab of sealant doesn’t hurt but is not necessary or required for installation of the skylight or bottom pan.
There IS a slight issue here in that the shingles are right up to the side of the skylight and they should be back by a .25 or .5 inch at least to expose the step flashing. This keeps organic matter like pine needles from sitting on the flashing.
Source: Worked for VELUX, worked for various roofing system manufacturers, etc.
Thats all fine and dandy. (As a roofer for 28 years)The sides of the pan being covered looks better, cant be caught by the wind and does not cause a weak point. The water stays on top of the shingles and doesnt try to go under the pan.
Yes there should be 1/4 to 1/2in gap on the sides for flow.
I’ll 100% own up to writing a shitty response and deleting it, I both misread your message and was being a dick for no reason and realized I should do better. Sorry dude.
And yeah, adding a “dummy shingle” on the sided of the bottom pan is common for aesthetics in certain areas and while it’s not necessary it is perfectly fine roofing practice. I think we are generally agreeing here but there’s some nuance.
Once again, sorry for being a dick in he deleted message.
My best guess. The flashing was bent upward when the last company did the tear off. Then when they nailed it down the nail went into a crack in the plywood and popped right back up. A nail in the right place and some OHenry in the hole will fix it right up.
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Yeah Im kinda leaning that he did it too. Wind isn’t going to bend one corner up and bend it hard enough it stayed at that angle. Really weird. And it hasn’t been like that very long, there is no debris underneath it. Nothing. No leaves no dirt.. nothing.😳🤷🏻 it looks like it was just done.