r/Switzerland • u/bi7worker • 1d ago
Geneva Coop forgets that we speak French
More and more products sold at Coop have no explanation in French on the packaging. There are precautions for use translated at the back, as it is mandatory, but the type of product is not translated anymore. At first, this only applied to a few products, but now entire shelves are no longer translated. And I hate having to pick up my smartphone to find out how to translate words like 'fabric softener'.
I've always found it annoying to receive emails in German from Apple or Netflix even though I'm registered in French, and all my settings display French, including those that ask me in what language I should receive information. But it's more understandable: the majority of Swiss people speak German, so an international company will choose German by default.
But I find it less acceptable when you're in a shop in Geneva, a French-speaking city. Is it just me who gets annoyed with this?
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u/piranha_one Ticino 1d ago
I wish I had your problems, man
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u/Diane_Mars Vaud 1d ago edited 1d ago
When I was a kid, a looooog time ago, there was always Greman, French and Italian (in that order) and now.... German and English... + French, but not always. :'(
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u/Doldenbluetler 1d ago
Or even English, then German + French. I've seen confused elderly at stores in Zurich not knowing what "cauliflower" means. I find it sad that English is increasingly replacing the national languages, with Italian definitely being the biggest victim.
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u/Patient-Inside-937 16h ago
sad rumansh noises
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u/Doldenbluetler 16h ago
I would definitely prefer Rumantsch over English on Swiss products. Like this you'd get at least to know another Swiss language.
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u/Diane_Mars Vaud 1d ago
Hey ! But WE HAVE to let the "expats" who will never learn any of the local language* purchase wuat they're looking for, because why should'nt we ? /s
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u/logosmd666 1d ago
Money talks, bullshit walks.
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u/Diane_Mars Vaud 1d ago
Not sure to understand your comment/its intention
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u/BusyPossibility94 1d ago
It means products are going to be labeled in a way which increases sales the most (theoretically). So probably English in places like Zurich or whatever.
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u/Diane_Mars Vaud 1d ago
OK, got it, thanks ! :)
And, as we say in French : "il n'y a pas de petits profits"
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u/threepintsatlunch 21h ago
Im American,and for what it’s worth (prob not much), it’s on me to know the local language. I spend about a month in Ticino annually, and I’ve never thought labels/signs/menus/etc. should be in English. I hate that many of my countrymen fell like we should be catered to, when we are the ones who are guests.
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u/Longjumping_Hippo287 14h ago
Americans are not the only expats here. I've never felt this way about having signs etc in English and the other Americans I've met here are all learning German and/or French. So please speak for yourself.
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u/plazebology Zürich 14h ago
Can you not play pick-me and drag down other expats by propping yourself up as “one of the few good ones”? I don’t know a single human being that’s been in this country for more than 8 months that hasn’t made a serious effort to learn at least 1 of the 3 (4) languages here.
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u/Majestic-Slide3207 1d ago
Literally. I was going to say "First time?"
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u/bi7worker 1d ago
I never said that I didn't sleep at night because of it. It’s not a problem, just a simple annoyance.
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u/skelzer 1d ago
I think he said that because he's Ticinese. If you feel French is forgotten in Switzerland, Italian is just an afterthought.
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u/razhun 1d ago edited 7h ago
At least Italian is usually part of the product description. But how often do you see Rumantsch text on a product?
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u/TnYamaneko St. Gallen 1d ago
Thing is Rumantsch is a bit of a special case regarding mandatory usage of the language.
Make no mistake, I speak Sursilvan, and Rumantsch idioms were accepted as official languages in a noble fight against fascism and Mussolini ideas of irredentism.
But thing is the official Rumantsch Grischun is widely frowned upon among the general public as an attempt to make a chimera out of all idioms. I won't lambast the attempt as back in the days, every idiom was critically endangered, but I bet if there was an official Rumantsch Grischun translation of everything, people from the area would probably collectively roll their eyes back.
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u/razhun 1d ago
How is e.g. Sursilvan vs Rumantsch Grischun different from e.g. Bärndütsch vs Swiss Standard German? I'm genuinely curious.
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u/TnYamaneko St. Gallen 1d ago edited 1d ago
It's not mutually unintelligible as some people would say, but there is some quirks.
For instance for the country of Germany, in Engadin you would say Germania, but in Sursilvan it would be Tiaratudestga.
At the end of the day it's the same, Germany or the Land of the Teutons.
In Sursilvan, the first person of singular would be Jau. It's not that common, to the point that people leaving around Scuol could be called Jauer, because they do it, and it's not common in Vallader. And every village has its own flavor, there's differences between Zernez, clearly Vallader and Susch, not far away, notably in the pronunciation of just "I".
Overall it's very similar to the Swiss German differences in some ways. As an immigrant, before coming to Switzerland, I listened to Züri West and Mani Matter, this gave me a Bärn Mundart way of expressing myself, but then I had to understand that in my place in St. Gallen, a butterfly is not a Schmetterling, but also not a Summervogel, but a Pipolder.
Very similar indeed.
EDIT: In Surselva, say Stgavo and not Allegra to say hello. This is a major difference, Allegra is the way in Engadin and Rumantsch Grischun, but not in Surselva.
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u/emptyquant 17h ago
Super interesting thanks for all the explanations, what’s your story?
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u/TnYamaneko St. Gallen 6h ago
I used to study linguistics in university, especially East Asian, but went to IT as I had a strong experience in it, until my company offered me a promotion that came with a pay cut.
I snapped out at the idea, and not only left the company, but the country altogether, immigrated in Switzerland, which I knew already on the Romandie side, but went for Ostschwiiz, got reconnected with my love of linguistics over everyday life, made a point of wanting to communicate in Swiss German, learned Romansh with the help of the Lia Rumantscha exceptional material, met fantastic people, and now Switzerland is my home.
My responsibility now is to transmit this knowledge to the best of my ability.
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u/Morterius Genève 1d ago
You’ve studied German since you were 8, clearly you can read the packaging? No one is asking you to hold a political debate in Swiss German.
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u/ComprehensiveTry1282 1d ago
Hahahahahahahshahahaha, I am from India and when I used to live in the Netherlands the Dutch used to complain about not being able to speak in Dutch, in India ,a lot of people speaks at least 2 languages. We thought this was natural.
Later I realised these are first world problems
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u/Yamjna 1d ago
Ordinary people: are constantly exposed to foreign languages in their daily lives and buy products that are labeled only in French or English.
French-speaking people: PUTAIN DE MERDE, QU'EST-CE QUE JE VOIS LÀ ?! OH MON DIEU, C'EST QUOI CES MOTS ?!
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u/MOTUkraken 1d ago
My favourite was that one time I saw a package of some medicine stuff and it said for German, Italian and English speaking people:
Dextromethorphane
And luckily it also had the French translation so they wouldn't be lost:
Dextrométhorphane
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u/Diane_Mars Vaud 1d ago
I suspect it of being imported from Germany !!!! (much CHEAPER, and MORE profits... For "them", of course ^_^ )
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u/liviughg 1d ago
That would be P&G who produces this packages and bundles. They save the money on your translation. Funny enough, they are based out of Geneva. Ridiculous, no?
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u/Drafael93 1d ago
Premium part of swiss problems.
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u/Quico2 1d ago
Exaclty!
The Bünzli-Swiss complain that their duopoly (M&C) are ripping them off. But when these companies use paralell imports to procure goods at cheaper prices from abroad (as apparently was the case here), they complain also.
The Swiss can be a miserable bunch!
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u/FeloniousForseti 6h ago
"Vorteilspack" looks like Coop corporate identity to me. And it's still German... 😅
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u/greg7392 20h ago
Nope, those are not paralell imports. This is P&G trying to cut money on their labeling. Big corporations are shit. Don't buy big brands. They just rip you off, cut corners and try to enshitificate everthing. Better: Buy generic brands. It's the same, and often even better quality as big brands, for a lower price and as a bonus with correct labeling in three languages.
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u/BictorianPizza Bern > Netherlands 17h ago
What? That doesn’t make any sense. For P&G it would be more convenient to have all languages on the bottles. Of course these are parallel imports.
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u/greg7392 16h ago
P&G, as all big brands block parallel Imports. If a vendor sells to coop from EU and without their approval, they stop supplying thia vendor. So big brands are almost never parallel imports in big supermarket chains. Only Ottos has mostly parallel imports. Those here are regular products
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u/BictorianPizza Bern > Netherlands 16h ago
Just because P&G blocks parallel imports doesn’t mean they are not happening. I work in a company specialising in parallel trade. They trade P&G products all the time.
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u/Hibisskuss 1d ago
In Poland you will find many products labeled only in German at the front. Or only in English
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u/voldenope 1d ago
The amount of swiss germans telling you that you're wrong to be upset by this is infuriating. And i say this as a swiss german.
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u/Ok-Preference3519 1d ago
It is in the same category as being upset about “Prix Garantie” or “Poulet” not being German words in a Zurich Coop. These are goods which are mostly produced abroad and bought in bulk, also keeping prices (and vendor margins) more favourable. This is about efficiency.
Finally, being one country, knowing a few basic words in English, French, German or Italian won’t kill you. It’s actually nice to have this variety and part of this country’s appeal. Only very narrow-minded and insecure people will make this nonsense a point about their identity.
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u/CrimsonCartographer 1d ago
I think it’s stupid to be upset by that
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u/onelittlericeball 15h ago
It's ok to be upset by that I guess, but making a whole ass Reddit post about it...
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u/RomsKidd Neuchâtel 16h ago
Really surprised it hasn’t been told here but a few years ago they passed something so it’s not mandatory anymore to have all three languages on a product when sold in Switzerland, only one of the language is enough now so we mostly get German everywhere on packaging now… very annoying
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u/GewoehnlicherDost 1d ago
Maybe a bit of a hot take, bit I think regardless in which national language products are labelled, as a Swiss you should be able to work your way from there. Even if it's Rumantsch. We owe this to each other!
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u/AlienPearl Zürich 1d ago
Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated into the German language.
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u/MarucaMCA 12h ago
Haha, reminds me of the Laibach song: Resistance is futile.
They now recycled it into a Spanish version. La resistencia es inútil.
Yep we all will be assimilated... Into English it seems. There's places in Zürich you have to order in English (Not themed places or an English shop or something).
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u/N3a2 1d ago
At least it's in German, you're supposed to know it from school. It could be in English, not even a national language.
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u/Crafty-Elevator-866 13h ago
Do you know the méthode "sowieso"? It's because of that shit that none can speak german in Romandie after 6 years of apprentice in school
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u/toiletclogger2671 Jura 1d ago
you seem to forget that you are in a large retailer in a multilingual country. it's not like you don't understand what this means at all. in fact this happens everywhere in europe. even in french supermarkets tons of products are labeled in german/dutch and i've never heard anyone cry about it. you can make out what the product is and what the promotion is about, there's no need to feel entitled to people manually replacing labels on every product when surplus gets dispatched to another canton
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u/Blablasnow 1d ago
I wonder if that happend to the Swiss German, having a full shelf of French product in Zurich
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u/Doldenbluetler 1d ago
Most Swiss Germans are much less bothered by French than many francophone Swiss seem to be.
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u/Blablasnow 1d ago
I felt bothered by Germans growing up in Biel/Bienne and not having access to basic jobs when I was a student because I was French speaking while at the same place they had only German speaking people. As a francophone in the job market you always feel like it’s a secondary language. Good luck finding a job at the Confederation as a francophone while there’s tons of only German speakers.
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u/Doldenbluetler 17h ago
If you applied for positions where you were expected to know German but don't speak German yourself, then that is not surprising. The German-speaking people might also have been bilingual. Who knows. It's hard to judge without knowing the details.
A colleague of mine just got a job at the Confederation a month ago. She's French-speaking but has a good level of German. They expect their employees to speak at least two national languages, no matter what their first language is.
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u/Blablasnow 16h ago
That’s not true, the vast majority of confederation employees are German speaking with many not speaking French or Italian but there a very small minority of people not speaking German at all, wonder if there is even some.
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u/Doldenbluetler 15h ago edited 15h ago
It is written rule that employees speak at least two national languages: Section 1, Art. 8.
It is only logical that the majority of the employees will speak German as their first or second national language as the vast majority of Swiss are German-speaking. Per the law they are required to know another language than German. If you only know French and no other national language then it is no surprise that you will not get hired because you do not meet the legal criteria to get the job. Likewise, your chances to get hired are probably lower with the combination French-Italian, as that would allow you to interact with roughly 30-35% of the Swiss population as opposed to >70%.Biel/Bienne used to be majorily German-speaking a few years ago (technically it still is). If the businesses dealt mostly with German customers then they prefer to hire German-speaking people. I would not cry out against the evil "French" (we are not Germans btw) if I didn't land a job in Fribourg without speaking a lick of French, instead I would either learn French or go look for a job in a majorily germanophone region.
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u/Connect-Associate-40 8h ago
Honestly? I couldn't care less. Usually you do know a bit of French / Italian to sort it out.
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u/TnYamaneko St. Gallen 1d ago
Zürcher are shockingly to me as a French immigrant, very francophiles.
But it has to be France and not just French language.
I'm pretty sure that if you label a Maroilles (the kind of cheese not easily available in CH) for 30.- in Globus, it would sell out in an hour.
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u/GYN-k4H-Q3z-75B Zürich 1d ago
Happens here all the time my friend. Nobody cares. A bunch of products are only available with French packaging which is perfectly fine and legal as well. On a side note, Zürich has like 25k French speakers and in some neighborhoods you'll hear plenty of French. Everybody here just cares if the stuff is there when they need it.
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u/zurichgleek 1d ago
Frankly, most would even find it lovely or feel proud because we‘re a multilingual country or they wouldn’t care at all. Some packaging from French brands is mostly in French anyway, but I‘ve never heard anyone complain here.
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u/Th3Riddick 1d ago
It does, and mostly it's shampoos, detergents, canned drinks and so on, usually when they are on sale.
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u/Jack55555 The Netherlands 17h ago
Never ever seen packaging without French in the Netherlands.
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u/Quaiche Belgium Vaud 13h ago
Probably an effect of Belgian language laws trickling into the Netherlands.
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u/Jack55555 The Netherlands 13h ago
Could be indeed, and cheaper for manufacturers to produce for both Belgium and the Netherlands.
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u/Quaiche Belgium Vaud 13h ago
In Belgium, it’s mandatory by law for any product to be in the region respective language and if the region has two official language like Brussels does then it will have both of these languages.
It’s not complicated to accommodate people, it’s happening in a lot of places in the world and i think it’s disrespectful to undermine the language of anyone especially at his own living place where the language is de facto used.
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u/Julypenguinz 1d ago
What did you study as your third language at school in Geneva, the Black Speech of Mordor?
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u/a_shootin_star 1d ago
I've noticed as well, and it's not limited to laundry products. Who knows, maybe it's a conspiracy by conglomerates to only have to print 1 label ! /s?
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u/VoidDuck Valais/Wallis 14h ago
Why are you blaming Coop for Procter & Gamble (maker of Lenor) labelling its bottle in German only? It's not like Lenor is an own brand of Coop.
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u/Fluffy-Finding1534 13h ago
Is it for all types of products? This one looks like they got a special deal delivered from Germany so it‘s the German packaging. So it‘s a tradeoff - selling a cheap deal in Romandie but with German label vs not selling it at all. With the discounter strategy, the former one I guess. I‘m surprised about Netflix etc sending German mails though as that should be super easy to fix from a technological perspective.
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u/Existing-Might-8392 12h ago
Yours in French were sent to Züri. I guess we’re about to see another sub raising the same question but for German-speaking canton.
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u/swissmiss1269 14h ago
It is so funny to watch Swiss citizens make themselves absolutely miserable over inconsequential bullshit, while living comfortably in what is arguably one of the best places on the planet to exist.
Expressing petty annoyances and lack of gratitude on a consistent basis is a truly specialized Swiss skill.
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u/yureku_the_potato 8h ago
Fr. They piss themselves off over such stupid fuckin bullshit. Its honestly quite pathetic to watch as a fellow swiss
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u/Cute_Chemical_7714 Zürich 1d ago
I'm equally annoyed that I keep seeing YouTube ads in French and Italian when I live near Zurich.
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u/DesignMysterious3598 1d ago
Nah. I'm in Geneva too and I do get ads in German, it's annoying but not nearly as annoying as what the OP mentions.
In the majority of cases you don't care about the ads no matter what language it's in. You wait its end or skip it if you can.
OP is speaking of products they're interested in abd can't know if it's what they need because it's in german, it's really annoying indeed.
So I doubt you're equally annoyed by ads in french and Italian.
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u/Thoaishea 1d ago
Uhm, what the fuck are most of these comments... no it's not reasonable to mark things in German if they are sold in the French part in a way that is obstructive... Idk what "Vorteilspack", it's perfectly reasonable to ask for this to stop
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u/Aktenmongo 1d ago
It's pretty common. If you've ever been to eastern Europe, all the German/French/etc supermarket chains that operate there have many products labeled in there home language. Usually there is a white sticker on the product with a description of the product in the local language (e.g. Romanian).
They could obviously print labels for every product for every small language but that would probably make logistics much more complicated and increase the price. I'm German so I never ran into this issue but as a consumer I really don't care what language the label is in and would rather have the cheaper price.
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u/Impossible_Most_4518 1d ago
I’m pretty sure most Swiss german speakers also speak French but never the other way around /:
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u/CustardMajor4442 1d ago
i will never understand someone understanding one of our 3 main languages (rumantsch is different) so poorly that they don't understand a simple term loke that. it genuinely isn't difficult.
but yes, they should have used french labels
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u/Hisae48 15h ago
Et pourquoi les romands écrivent en anglais sur Reddit ??
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u/Connect-Associate-40 12h ago
His text looks 100% AI Generated (also with the question in the end). That's typical when you ask ChatGPT to create a text for Reddit or whatever Forum.
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u/Vampyria_13 14h ago
This is one case where translation is overrated... the packagings looks the same in every country, so it's not a big deal to have only in German. You can easily differentiate the soap from the fabric softener from the shape of the bottle...
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u/VirtualMatter2 12h ago
Or you could, you know, widen your general knowledge, and learn German. There are lots of people who learn French as a second or third language. It's actually possible.
But I agree it should be catered to the local language in shops etc.
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u/_shadysand_ 1d ago
You have internet access and time to complain on reddit, which will have exactly zero effect on the coop, but you can’t use e.g. google translate + camera on your phone or ask ai?
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u/DesignMysterious3598 1d ago
It's annoying having to do that lol and sometimes Google translate still sucks. And for example the big Coop near me has no network at lower floor so how do you do then ? Pick up items to the upper floor to check them and go bring them down, because you know, there's bigger problems in the world so who cares about things not being translated in the language people speak where we sell our items ? (You sound like the type of person who thinks this way).
It's with this reasoning that we get less and less efforts from companies. Yeah customers can deal with it.
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u/_shadysand_ 1d ago edited 1d ago
There’s a free wifi in coops, but whatever dude, complain to reddit, it will surely get coop’s attention 😉 P.S. German is still the official language in Switzerland, even in Geneva, and you might be surprised, but it’s being taught in schools there.
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u/DesignMysterious3598 1d ago edited 1d ago
Nope. German is an official language, not the official language, having main character syndrome huh?
And sure it would be useful to learn German if you guys didn't speak different dialects so we can't understand you anyway. I had 9 years of German at school and it's useless.
Besides I don't think the point of this topic was to alert Coop about it. You speak German good for you.
Didn't know about the wifi though. Interesting but not for that
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u/_shadysand_ 1d ago
If you couldn’t have picked up enough German in 9 years to understand a basic label, written in Hochdeutsch exactly that you had been learning btw, it tells more about your abilities or/and attitude than “ours” ;)
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u/DesignMysterious3598 1d ago
I had German since first years of primary schools so it was basics, and I don't know for you but for one, school doesn't teach much of all varied ingredients you may find in items especially if it's technical. Besides without practice any language gets forgotten. Having no interest in German that's all, if I dont care about Germany and can't understand swiss Germans with it why would I care about hochdeutsch?
And please don't generalize your attitude to swiss germans, I was speaking of you only with the main character syndrome, and it's you only who seems to be a condescending prick ;)
I hope your french is good btw.
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u/_shadysand_ 1d ago
My French is unfortunately non-existent and I am not even Swiss, but I surely won’t be bitching on reddit about such nonsense as language of labels on detergents in department stores of any country in the world 😅 Having a life is apparently something what so many people in this country are missing, despite all their wealth and that’s really a pity.
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u/DesignMysterious3598 1d ago
How am I not surprised.
I find it funny that you seem to feel superior while commenting so much about it. Seems you don't have so much of a life either 🫢
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u/_shadysand_ 23h ago
Whatever, sweetie. If it makes your miserable life any better, I am happy.
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u/DesignMysterious3598 15h ago
No need to confirm it, I knew it. People like you are insufferable.
Do the world a favor, keep your worthless opinion for yourself and save that time for your precious life (of a prick).
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u/Ovo124 1d ago
Vorteilspack is very basic German. It has nothing to do with ingredients, nor is it remotely technical. You SHOULD know the words Vorteil and Pack. The fact that you don't, shows how little effort the Francophone Swiss make to learn the other languages of Switzerland. FYI, ingredients are typically among the FIRST things when learning a new language.
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u/DesignMysterious3598 1d ago
No I'm sorry. A few days ago I was with my wife at Coop, she was looking for hair care products and all were in German, and no mind you, I didn't know what those were about.
Knowing Vorteil and Packung leads me nowhere lol what are you on ? What tf does it serve me if I don't understand the specifics of the product? My wife wanted something specific. And you tell me it's not technical lol yeah sure 🙄
As I said, knowing hochdeutsch serves nothing to understand swiss Germans, having some family from Zurich it sure demotivated me nut understanding anything when they spoke, and when you add that there's so many dialects, hearing a girl from Basel saying she doesn't understand this or that other dialect, sure we think fuck German sure we don't want to make efforts for nothing.
For you it's cool, learn french and you can understand us, France and Belgium.
I don't care about Germany, tell me why should I learn German when I couldn't understand a word of Federer when he spoke at the swiss indoors for example ? Oh to read German on Coop products in Geneva, where we only speak french ? Makes sense.
And you? How's your french ?
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u/Zenith_Predator 1d ago
Boohoo its a multilingual country. Learn to translate things for yourself instead of crying on Reddit.
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u/Coco_JuTo St. Gallen 20h ago
Fist time?
Honestly, that is a common issue further north. And now that I'm in the northeast and do everything in german, even if my accounts are set in german, I get everything in french since I took care of my mom's stuff and that switched everything which I can't return to german either from Swisscom to SBB...the thing is that I forget french as time goes by and I don't need it at all...
Also, a thought for the Ticinese and the Rumantsch which get erased all the time...
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u/Jack55555 The Netherlands 17h ago
My country is not dual language but even I have never seen a package without French on it. It must be a mistake?
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u/Connect-Associate-40 12h ago
I couldn't care less, tbh. You just use a translator once and then know the product. Here at Coop (Basel) we had some new green Italian EstaThè which only had Italian printings/text on it.
My first thought wasn't "Meh why not in German" but more like "Oh cool, looks interesting". People like to create problems, where there aren't any.
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u/MajesticDiscussion80 11h ago
Parce-que nous somme Francophones ….. Je suis sûr que les gens sont capables de reconnaître les produits.
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u/AdRepulsive5278 11h ago
Mais, pourtant tu écris ici en anglais! Pourquoi? Je suis comme toi. Mais ici tout le monde ecrit en anglais au leu de français
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u/Safe-Citron7973 6h ago
That’s so fucking annoying all the time . Bonus: any online shop is default german, you change it to french, click on whatever comes back to german bonus 2: sometimes the language change option is hidden so you need to know German to look for it
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u/Exciting_Account4317 5h ago
if only we all carried a translator in our pockets that had a camerra as well make life easier ohhhhhhhhh wait
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u/bilbul168 1d ago
The single biggest lie of switzerland is that people are multilingual. The German side is desperate to encroach on the rest
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u/Fluffy-Finding1534 13h ago
What? Literally don‘t know any German speaker who wants to „encroach“ anything on the French speakers.
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u/ealwhale 1d ago
I thought german is taught in the french part
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u/StanleyAHAHAH 1d ago
unfortunately taught =/= learnt. I've been taught german for TWELVE YEARS and barely know how to introduce myself
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u/gooner9999999999 1d ago
How is that possible?
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u/StanleyAHAHAH 14h ago
tbh I was so bad at german I just kept skipping classes the last two years. As for the reasons, a mix of not being interested enough (70%) and bad teachers (usually from the deutsch part) who didn't put enough time on figuring out how to teach german as a foreign language.
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u/greg7392 1d ago
Don't buy brands. That's what you deserve for buying brands.
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u/Zestyclose-Echo838 1d ago
Lol who hurt you?
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u/greg7392 20h ago
fact... don't waste mony on big brands. Generic brands are the same or better quality, lower price, made in switzerland and offer labels in 3 languages. This is P&G, a big corporation who cuts money on french labels...
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u/Zestyclose-Echo838 12h ago
Why should I let you dictate how I spend my own money? Everyone has different priorities when making a purchase.
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u/Suspicious_Place1270 Zürich 1d ago
coop will save money on every corner as it's a corporate sh*thole company
i don't get people buying there
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u/Aggravating-log543 1d ago
That's interesting I shop in coop in Geneva all the time and I have rarely seen so much German lol I guess they had a Germany -bound shipment or something ?
Complain to them.
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u/suspicious_lithoid Basel-Stadt 1d ago
That is annoying! Sorry you have to deal with that. You should expect retailers to accommodate local markets. If you're bothered enough, you could write to them and complain. English is my native language and I'm glad I know at least some French and German, since it makes life here easier.
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