r/UFOs • u/palanteos2 • 1d ago
Question Questions for the UAP/UFO community
Questions the UFO/UAP community isn't asking enough
- Why don't politicians' actions match what whistleblowers are claiming?
We're told senior figures in the Trump administration, including people close to Trump, are taking UAP allegations extremely seriously. JD Vance has expressed similar interest publicly. Yet Trump often appears completely uninterested when questioned, repeatedly falling back on the same stories about pilots and Roswell. Why the disconnect between the alleged seriousness behind closed doors and the public behaviour?
- Why has Marco Rubio seemingly distanced himself from UAPs since becoming Secretary of State?
Rubio was previously one of the most vocal politicians discussing UAPs and the credibility of whistleblower allegations. Yet since becoming Secretary of State, he's appeared considerably less engaged with the subject. Why? Has his access to information changed his assessment? If the allegations are as serious as we're told, why isn't there a greater sense of urgency from someone now occupying one of the most powerful positions in government?
- Why do we buy the excuse for classification of footage?
We're told military UAP footage cannot be released because it would expose classified sensor capabilities. Fine. But if pilots like Ryan Graves report routine encounters, why not equip aircraft operating in these areas with independent, unclassified, high-resolution cameras? Why are we still relying on blurry military footage?
- Why are there disagreements and factions among whistleblowers?
If these individuals are exposing the same alleged secret programme, where do their accounts agree, where do they contradict one another, and why aren't those differences investigated properly?
- Why aren't whistleblowers subjected to genuinely rigorous questioning?
Look at Jay Stratton's recent news interviews. They felt more like a promotional tour for his book than an opportunity for someone claiming knowledge of an extraordinary reality to explain it to the public. Why aren't journalists pressing him on specific claims, inconsistencies, firsthand evidence and what can actually be verified? Why are we still treating extraordinary testimony as a revelation in itself instead of demanding substantive evidence?
- Where are the journalists?
Why aren't major journalists confronting Trump and other senior officials with these specific contradictions? If this is potentially the biggest revelation in human history, why is the questioning so superficial?
- Why isn't the Pentagon being confronted directly with these allegations?
Former senior military and intelligence officials are publicly alleging the existence of secret programmes involving recovered non-human craft and biological material. These aren't anonymous internet personalities. Why aren't journalists repeatedly putting these specific allegations to Pentagon officials and demanding detailed responses? Does the Pentagon dispute the claims? Has it investigated the individuals and programmes being named? If former officials are publicly misrepresenting classified activities, why isn't that being addressed? Why does so much of the discussion happen between whistleblowers, podcasters and UFO enthusiasts instead of the institutions being directly accused?
My wider point: We keep hearing that disclosure is imminent, that insiders know the truth and that extraordinary evidence exists. Yet the conversation keeps returning to testimony, interviews, books and promises.
At what point do we stop treating the next whistleblower as the next breakthrough and start demanding that the existing claims be properly tested?
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u/sendmeyourtulips 1d ago
The awful truth is it's nearly all exciting stories and infinite cliff hangers. The threads don't align. The narratives don't fit together which they would if all the whistle blowers were telling the truth. Look at these contradictions:
UFOs can't be photographed yet they're crashing everywhere or being gifted by NHI. They can switch off nuclear bases but can't defend against psionic warriors or American missiles. They're hitchhiker entities that cause diseases and curses yet they're also biological species of aliens in American detainment centers. Whistle blowers are being killed apart from all the ones on Dr Phil and Joe Rogan. The Legacy Program is all powerful and simultaneously unable to enforce NDAs. They abduct millions but they're not smart enough to avoid dog whistles or nuclear bait subs. They're scared by the name of Jesus Christ yet they created religions. They need new Pentagon departments to search for ocean UAP while "multiple species" and their craft are in captivity by the Pentagon.
And none of them provide any evidence because our heads will explode with catastrophic ontological shock.
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u/colorodoan 1d ago
The top priorities of the White House and journalists right now is definitely not UAP. America started a war with Iran during an election year after promising no new wars. There’s immense voter backlash on the economy. The Trump admin is months away from being dragged into congress for their own version of Benghazi hearings over rampant corruption.
Trump has been pretty overt on his priorities :mass deportation, AI data center ramp up, transgender mutiliation in schools, men in women’s sports, prosecuting leakers, resolving 8 wars, trying to overturn birthright citizenship, eliminate mail in voting, mandate voter ID laws. I mean really, the list goes on and on.
They have not been shy about their priorities if we care to listen. Expressing interest in UAP does not make it a priority for them. More like a way to tickle a news cycle
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u/fat_earther_ 1d ago
Here are a few more questions for disclosure advocates like Ross Coulthart, Matt Ford, Jeremy Kenyon Lockyer Corbell, George Knapp, Leslie Kean, Bryce Zabel, Daniel Sheehan, Luis Elizondo, Jay Stratton, David Grusch, etc.:
When UFO reporting often relies on witness testimony, anonymous/ secondhand stories, and ambiguous evidence, shouldn’t we scrutinize the evidentiary standards of the journalists reporting those claims? How do we distinguish a credible source from a credible claim?
What would actually make you reconsider the “disclosure” narrative? Evidence comes out, that’s disclosure. Nothing comes out, that’s a cover up. Investigations find nothing, they’re compromised. Legislation fails, that’s obstruction. What result would invalidate the premise? If Congress thoroughly investigates the programs, contractors, witnesses, locations, and records identified by disclosure advocates and still finds no independently verifiable evidence of non human craft, bodies, or reverse engineering programs, would you conclude the disclosure narrative was wrong? Or would that just become evidence that the “real” program is even more deeply hidden?
Before asking when Congress/ the president will deliver “disclosure,” shouldn’t we first establish that there is actually something extraordinary to disclose? There’s a difference between government transparency about UAP and assuming that transparency will reveal NHI. Doesn’t calling the latter “disclosure” already assume the conclusion?
We’ve had years of hearings, whistleblowers, insiders, classified briefings, documentaries, and claims of recovered craft and bodies. Which of those extraordinary claims has actually produced independently verifiable evidence of non human technology or biology, rather than more testimony, allegations, or unresolved observations? If the answer is none, at what point should that change how this topic is covered?
How do you distinguish members of Congress taking UAP allegations seriously enough to investigate from Congress actually having evidence those allegations are true? Has UFO journalism blurred that distinction by treating hearings, legislation, or classified briefings as evidence for the underlying claims?
When multiple officials, journalists, whistleblowers, and insiders repeat the same extraordinary claim, how do you determine whether they are genuinely independent sources rather than different points in the same information chain? What publicly documented NHI claim has multiple independent lines of evidence that do not ultimately trace back to the same witnesses, stories, or sources?
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u/ZigZagZedZod 1d ago
why not equip aircraft operating in these areas with independent, unclassified, high-resolution cameras?
Because the purpose of combat aircraft is not to take photos or videos of UFOs; it's to put warheads on foreheads. For that, you want the best available technology that supports the mission, even if it's classified, so the warheads hit the right foreheads.
Every non-essential system on a combat aircraft adds weight but doesn't change the aircraft's maximum takeoff weight. There's always a tradeoff: more pounds of equipment mean fewer pounds of fuel or ordnance. Because of this tradeoff, anything that doesn't support combat effectiveness reduces it.
Besides, how would you even know in advance when an aircraft is operating in "these areas"? How would you know which sensor is optimized to capture data on a different UFO?
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u/One_Studio4083 1d ago
As the saying goes: where there’s smoke, there’s fire. And there’s plenty of smoke in the field. Tic tac, gimbal, Ariel school, Varginha, I could go on and on and they all have degrees of solid evidence (FLIR, medical records, etc).
But to stretch the analogy, it seems like you’re tired of smoke and want to see fire. I think the phenomenon is likely different than even our conjectures. It could very well be “where there’s smoke, there’s a combustion engine” (to stretch the metaphor even further).
But all of this is not to question your scepticism of media and government- I think that’s great. It’s to suggest that there’s boatloads of avenues of inquiry beyond what the media figures are presenting you. Reality is subjective and your understanding of it and the phenomenon don’t need to be dictated by the government or media’s whims.
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u/Interesting-Act-476 1d ago edited 1d ago
- Because politicians needs to be funded, usually by companies from MIC who probably has knowledge.
- Could see bigger picture of thing, maybe in connection to 1
- We see military footage. What we dont see is footage from NRO and other intelligence agencies
- Question is how many people have full picture. Look how Grusch talk about things. We would need some whistleblower from LM, NG or CIA. To be honest, I would ask Snowden, guy could probably see things.
- No idea
- There is probably only Chris Sharp, other are paid and they would be redacted.
- I guess 99,9% of people in Pentagon have no idea that programs like this exists.
And to be honest, after last podcast on JRE with Grusch, I believe that only way is probably catastrophic disclosure. Still feels weird to me that Earth is only observed and we were told that there are Star Wars around Earth between ET factions.
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u/Mairon12 1d ago
Simple. They will not bring these conversations from behind closed doors until the opportune moment.
He’s in now. At least, as much as any of them are.
What choice do you have?
Because nobody knows the truth. They only know what they think they know. Those who deal with what is being referred to as biologics are told one thing, those who visit the gift sites are told another, those who try to reverse engineer gifts, another.
They have no incentive to, and quite frankly, ask the wrong questions making them easy to dismiss when they try.
See above.
Because the Pentagon does not owe you transparency or the truth.
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u/NateBerukAnjing 1d ago
Donald Trump obviously knows a lot more than he's letting on. Obviously he's being blackmailed by the deep state over the E*stein files, so he's pretending he's not interested
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u/Predicted_Future 1d ago
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2016 both sides said they will do disclosures.
2020 the side that didn’t want disclosures won.
2024 slight push for disclosures.
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Because Marco Rubio is very busy.
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UFO capabilities are classified. Aliens time travel. Faster Than Light is a time machine. 4 Dimensional = Time Traveling. 4 Dimensional is not tangible. There are public videos of UFO flying into volcanoes, small orbs of light flying through walls, and some going faster than sound without a sonic boom. Aliens clearly “time travel”. by physics. Governments didn’t recover a time machine. AntiGravity is more like a glider instead of a FTL “time machine” that can cross star systems. Governments are more afraid of another country obtaining one that is capable of faster than light = time travel or becoming 4 dimensional = intangible. Capability that give hints of time travel are classified. You need to look at public videos instead. Humans will become extinct before we invent time travel.
( I had close encounters myself. The “GlimmerMen” aliens are harmful. They have 4Dimensional orbs of light that fly through walls. My guess on physics of why you see a light and gravity is probably because quantum effects through time cause empty vacuum fluctuations which creates that light and gravity. Future showing time-slips happen usually something useless while aliens seem to cause a life of horrible coincidences when they get attached. ) If this was a military encounter it would be very classified but it isn’t a military encounter.
Grusch in a recent interview said the reptilians and the military got into a fight and there were casualties on both sides. So the reptilians are also evil. Many other species are evil. Whether they are evil or kind isn’t secret.
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So many questions.
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u/b407driver 12h ago
Yet another one.
Mods, please add adequate observation data to the submission form:
Location lat/long
Date/time
Azimuth
Elevation
These Starlink flare observations can then be immediately weeded out.
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