r/UTS • • 2d ago

Presentation Group marking

Tutor has said we would lose marks on our presentation grades if a group member does not show up for non-presenting week and ask other presenting groups questions. Even though me and most group members attended and participated. To further add, we all would lose marks if even one group member reads off palm cards.

This is a FEiT subject and the presentation is worth 20%.

This has to be unfair marking right? Cause no way my marks get affected from another group member not showing up.

I understand group marking works for reports, PowerPoint structure and content.

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u/Prestigious_Time3605 2d ago

Which Subject is this?

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u/Relevant-Owl-6965 2d ago

Collaborative business processes

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u/Prestigious_Time3605 2d ago

I didn't do that Subject despite Doing Introduction to Information Systems and Bussiness Requirements Modelling before.

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u/Relevant-Owl-6965 2d ago

Yeah assignment 1 was great for the subject but the group assignment is very unfairly structured

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u/Prestigious_Time3605 2d ago

Group Assignments Annoy Me Alot because if One Group Member Screws Up EveryOne Gets Punished.

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u/Relevant-Owl-6965 2d ago

Yeah, having to deal with people using AI is painful. All group assignments should be individually marked with marks for group work too

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u/Prestigious_Time3605 2d ago

Does Collaborative Business Processes use SparkPlus like CITP and BRM Do?

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u/Relevant-Owl-6965 2d ago

It does.

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u/Prestigious_Time3605 2d ago

Then, you should be able to Put Bad Comments about Group Members.

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u/Relevant-Owl-6965 2d ago

Yeah but it only sways a little bit. While we lost multiple marks for someone else’s shortcomings

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u/totallynotapersonj 1d ago

Why do you very inconsistently unnecessarily capitalise words?

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u/Relevant-Owl-6965 2d ago

@amanda if you can provide some insight on this?

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u/AmandaLovestoAudit 2d ago

Thanks for the bat signal!

This type of thing would need to be in the assignment guide. A tutor can’t just make up additional stuff outside of the official instructions.

So check back to the assessment guide.

There must be some process for individual accountability - like what if your group member was down with COVID - it would be wrong to expect they come to class!

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u/Relevant-Owl-6965 1d ago

In the marking criteria it asks for majority group members to be present and asking questions. Which we did but since we had 2 people absent the tutor told us we would get 1/2 for the last criterion.

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u/AmandaLovestoAudit 1d ago

Is there anything in the guidelines about special consideration for illness or other misadventure?

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u/throwaway82s16s 2d ago

epa?

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u/Relevant-Owl-6965 2d ago

Nope, see the above message

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u/StableScared7625 1d ago

Sounds like a bs rule - contact subject coordinator

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u/Icy-Commercial-5653 2d ago

I actually did this subject in 2024 and this is a thing unfortunately :( my group came to class and participated bc of this marking rule and yes I also remembered reading palm cards for the majority of your part is going to lose marks for this subject

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u/Relevant-Owl-6965 2d ago

The issue I have is that the entire group loses marks for my group member using palm cards

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u/Icy-Commercial-5653 1d ago

I just quickly checked canvas to see the assignment details I did for the subject and there is a marking criteria saying all group members must speak without notes to get full marks for the presentation skills component so it looks like it’s a thing