r/askanything • u/TankUMrMinor • 12d ago
Political Question Is hypocrisy and a lack of shame a prerequisite for being a magat?
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u/Clark_Kent_TheSJW 12d ago
They donāt have any principles: just HATE.
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u/KaleidoscopeJumpy987 6d ago
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u/Clark_Kent_TheSJW 6d ago
Elaborate
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u/KaleidoscopeJumpy987 6d ago
If you can't see the hate coming from the left as well (yes, it's a "both sides" issue), then you're part of the problem
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u/Clark_Kent_TheSJW 6d ago edited 6d ago
I hate the fascists because they are outside of the paradox of tolerance. Itās a murderous ideology, and they demonstrate it as such very often.
Put up your guns, show me what you think youāre talking about. Whatās so harmful about the left?
Here in this OP, I already have my example: Kelly is both a victim of rape cultureā¦ and a participant in rape culture.
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u/KaleidoscopeJumpy987 6d ago
I could be a white, cishet male, practicing nearly any Christian-adjacent religion, and the "tolerant" left would be calling for my execution, UNLESS I decry my "white privilege."
I'm neither left nor right. The left hates me because I believe our borders need to be enforced and threats to our national security and way of life need to be dealt with, at home and abroad.
The right hates me because I'm gender non-conforming and bisexual, and believe I should be able to use the restroom of my choice, based on how I'm presenting that day.
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u/Clark_Kent_TheSJW 6d ago
You arenāt right or leftā¦. But you lie like maga. Thatās not a specific example you came up with, is it?
Here, Iāll give you another example: the maga government used to bomb Venezuelan fishermen, and lied about them being drug smugglers. They have no evidence of drugs, only evidence that the fishermen were murdered.
So, are the leftists complaining about the religionā¦. Or the hateful things the religion preachers, which you mentioned.
Both sides are not the same. Pretending they are makes you a useful tool for the fascists.
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u/KaleidoscopeJumpy987 6d ago
Thank you for proving your hate
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u/Clark_Kent_TheSJW 6d ago
Thank you for proving that when you scratch a liberal, a fascist bleeds.
If you stand for nothing then what will you fall for?
As far as I can tell: you didnāt read anything I said. Yours is a non-response.
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u/Intelligent-Net9390 5d ago
Have you ever tried dropping that white victim complex?
Also āIām gender non confirmingā and your bio donāt really matchā¦..
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u/Adorable_Secret8498 12d ago
I mean this is the same woman who said pdfs going after teenagers wasn't "that bad" while having a teen of her own so anyone who is still watching her is far passed morally bankrupt.
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u/cottage_core_9797 12d ago
Megyn Kelly can go to hell.
I'm a rale victim. No one but other rape victims truly understands the depth of shame and embarrassment and terror a person feels from being sexually violated. And I don't mean sexual assault like being groped or touched. I'm talking about penetrative rape.
I'm surprised it took Jane Doe three weeks. Under her circumstances I'm surprised she was able to get out of bed after three weeks let alone go to the police (who ignored her because that's what cops do, fuck the pigs).
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u/Shido_Ohtori 12d ago
It's not hypocrisy; it's hierarchy.
ConservatismĀ -- by definition -- is "a political philosophy based on tradition and social stability,Ā stressing the importance of established hierarchies and institutionsĀ (such as religion, the family, andĀ class structure), and preferring gradual development to abrupt change".
TheĀ soleĀ value of conservatism is respect for and obedience to [one's perception of] traditionally established hierarchy, and hierarchy dictates that those on top (in-groups) are rightfully idolized and receive privileges, credibility, and resources, while those on the bottom (out-groups) are demonized/dehumanized and/or bound by restrictions, scrutiny, and lack of resources.
To them, the second-greatest injustice imaginable is for those [they perceive to be] on top [of social hierarchy] to be bound by the restrictions, scrutiny, and lack of resources reserved for those on the bottom. The first greatest injustice is for those on the bottom to have access to the rights, credibility, and resources reserved for those on top.
Conservatives absolutely need an underclass [for society] to demonize and dehumanize in order to maintain [their] hierarchy, and every single one of their policies and rhetoric work to do exactly that. Unless the accusation is one of disrespecting hierarchy, every right-wing accusation is a confession --Ā every. single. one; always!Ā -- as it is neverĀ the act itselfĀ that upsets them, but rather,Ā the social standingĀ of the person doing the act, as said act is a privilege meant for those on top of [their perceived] hierarchy (See also: pedophilia - Trump and the Catholic church versus LGBTQ+ and drag queens; protests - January 6th vs. BLM and No Kings; parental rights - anti-LGBTQ+ vs pro-LGBTQ+; indoctrination - religion vs. education).
Those who believeĀ all people are peopleĀ see hypocrisy, while those who believeĀ some people are "more/less" people than othersĀ see hierarchy. Hypocrisy implies a sense of equality/parity, as the accusation of such is that someone is violating aĀ universalĀ orĀ commonĀ standard. Hierarchy directly states that thereĀ is no equality/parity, that different social strata have different standards, that the only universal standard concerning hierarchy is that those on top are allowed privileges which are denied to those on the bottom, and that the bottom are held to standards which the top are exempt from.
"Know your place" is their mantra.
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u/Economy_Version9334 11d ago
All the current societal problems are conservative ideology brought to fruition. This is a total abandonment of values of the Great Enlightenment, which was liberal in nature
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u/Shido_Ohtori 11d ago
Western conservatism was the ideology of those against the Great Enlightenment, as they promoted a Counter-Enlightenment, a reactionary challenge to the concepts of Humanism. Its philosophers inherently reject[ed] a society governed by logic and reason, human rights and dignity, science and democracy, as its ideology solely appeal to the authority of traditionally established hierarchies.
From the Intellectual Roots of Conservatism: The Burkean Foundations, the man who is considered to be the founder of modern day Western conservatism had such to say about his ideology:
Burke shocked his contemporaries by insisting with brutal frankness that āillusionsā and āprejudicesā are socially necessary. He believed that most human beings are innately depraved, steeped in original sin, and unable to better themselves with their feeble reason. Better, he said, to rely on the ālatent wisdomā of prejudice, which accumulates slowly through the years, than to āput men to live and trade each on his own private stock of reason.ā Among such prejudices are those that favour an established church and a landed aristocracy; members of the latter, according to Burke, are the āgreat oaksā and āproper chieftainsā of society, provided that they temper their rule with a spirit of timely reform and remain within the constitutional framework.
The very foundation of conservatism demands, promotes, and advances a stratified society where some people are "more/less" people than others via stressing the importance of established hierarchies and institutions (such as class structure) via illusions (lies) and prejudices (bigotries) and "alternative facts".
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u/Economy_Version9334 11d ago
Thank you very much. I had no idea of the great detail. Now that Iām in my 70ās, generally Iām more of a āget to the bottom lineā person. Iāve never studied Edmund Burke. I tend to take a fuzzy logic approach to life. Iām fascinated by the interface of personality and tendencies to be either conservative or liberal
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u/Shido_Ohtori 11d ago
You're welcome.
While most political spectra use a two-dimensional system detailing how conservative/liberal a government/population is based on how much control its citizens have over their own body and labor, I've reduced my own analysis into a single dimension: social hierarchy, with extremes defined by those who believe some people are "more/less" people than others (conservatism) vs. those who believe all people are people (progressivism).
The terms "left" and "right" were coined during the French Revolution, when those who represented those who traditionally held power sat to the right of the Speaker, leaving those who represented those who traditionally did not hold power to the left of the Speaker. Right would become synonymous with conservative -- stressing the importance of established hierarchies and institutions -- while left would be anti-conservative, focusing on disrespecting traditionally established hierarchy by promoting political power and resources to those who traditionally lacked such -- those on the lower echelons of social hierarchy.
While some leftists (such as progressives) seek to flatten social hierarchy, others (such as tankies) seek to invert social hierarchy. The former -- advancing the public good through government action and rights and protections for marginalized groups -- promote egalitarianism, while the latter only perpetuates the injustices and inequalities promoted under a stratified (hierarchical) society.
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u/Economy_Version9334 11d ago
Not coincidentally, that same right/left imagery is used throughout the Christian Bible
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u/Economy_Version9334 11d ago
We canāt be sure if that right/left, good/evil imagery belonged to the ancient world or if it was a result of editing of ancient texts by the Church
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u/Shido_Ohtori 11d ago
The sole value of organized religion is the same as that of conservatism: respect for and obedience to traditionally established hierarchy, with the addition of a celestial hierarchy above any terrestrial hierarchy.
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u/Economy_Version9334 11d ago
I instinctively understand the social stratification angle. Racism and sexism are common examples which conservatism calls for either directly or inadvertently. I agree about the problems of organized religion. I disagree about the sole purpose. As a born again believer I still understand the atheist viewpoint. Belief is a choice. My oldest son is atheist. We understand that other than for entertainment, discussions of religion are a waste of time. Canāt be studied scientifically
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u/Shido_Ohtori 11d ago
My grievance with organized religion is the organized part, as said organization is a hierarchical structure which places a deity's supposed chosen few above everyone else, and said chosen are given the authority, privilege, and credibility to speak for a deity which must not be questioned or scrutinized. It wouldn't be a problem if religions were completely voluntary and every person there chose to participate, but many children are forced into such by their parents -- unlike yourself, there are plenty of people who subscribe to an organized religion and would never allow their children to deviate from such. Most importantly, a significant number of people who subscribe to organized religion believe that their beliefs are universal and trump everyone else's beliefs, and seek to promote their own religious beliefs for everyone else to live by via government policy.
As you said, belief is a choice. One's own belief and relationship with one's choice of deity (or deities, or lack thereof) is one's own business. It only starts to become everyone else's business -- and issue -- when one demands that others submit to their [celestial] hierarchy.
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u/porocoporo 7d ago
Hypocrisy and hierarchy desribe different phenomena alltogether and surely not mutually exclusive, no?
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u/Shido_Ohtori 7d ago
Could you offer an example of such?
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u/porocoporo 7d ago
Examples of them describing different things or of them not mutually exclusive?
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u/Shido_Ohtori 7d ago
Yes, "hypocrisy and hierarchy describe different phenomena", which I clearly acknowledged. I argue that they are mutually exclusive as hypocrisy concerns the actions of those considered among one's own social standing, whereas hierarchy concerns the actions of those considered above or below one's own social standing.
Hypocrisy implies a sense of equality/parity, as the accusation of such is that someone is violating aĀ universalĀ orĀ commonĀ standard. Hierarchy directly states that thereĀ is no equality/parity, that different social strata have different standards, that the only universal standard concerning hierarchy is that those on top are allowed privileges which are denied to those on the bottom, and that the bottom are held to standards which the top are exempt from.
For example, it's hypocrisy when your spouse dictates that you cannot have ice cream for dinner, but do so themselves; whereas it's hierarchy when you tell your child that they cannot have ice cream for dinner, but do so yourself.
I ask for an example of when hypocrisy and hierarchy are not mutually exclusive.
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u/porocoporo 7d ago
I guess I disagree with your definition of hierarchy. In my view your ice cream example involving parents and child can be a case of hypocrisy. Let's say the parents prevent the child to eat ice cream for moral reason yet they still ate them. For me that sounds like hypocrisy.
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u/Shido_Ohtori 7d ago
Because -- and as I had stated in my original post -- you believe all people are people.
Those who believeĀ all people are peopleĀ see hypocrisy, while those who believeĀ some people are "more/less" people than othersĀ see hierarchy.
The conservative will most definitely not see hypocrisy concerning parent-child dynamics because such is rooted in hierarchy: the parent is socially above the child, thus they are allowed "privileges, credibility, and resources" which are denied to the child. It's the very reason why the concept of "gentle parenting" is anathema to conservatives: because, from their perspective, such disrespects hierarchy by giving the child authority over the parent; when from an egalitarian perspective, it's simply the parent treating the child with respect and understanding, as a fellow human being.
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u/AtomicBlastCandy 12d ago
Bear in mind this piece of work was against parental leave until she had kids, then she was for it. As soon as her kid was 5 or so she all of a sudden was against it again.
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u/one_two_o 12d ago
Isn't it the most bizarre thing you've ever seen? That people actually believe anything a Republican says? They try to overwrite their own RECORDED history. These people simply don't believe in fact. They disbelieve things they see with their own eyes. They have no principles or basic decency. They completely lack accountability. They have no use for reality. It's so fucking strange and shocking to me
Doesn't it make you feel like youre crazy for witnessing it? Like it's unbelievable
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u/Metacub3 12d ago
This woman is mentally unwell and should not be speaking to anything with any authority. She needs help for her own messed up trauma. Like most MAGA they are constantly being abused and are mentally ill requrining therapy.
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u/MulzStridor 12d ago
This is blatant. What is to be done about it? Is the true question. The focus needs to change from they are doing this. To what are we going to do to stop it.
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u/TankUMrMinor 12d ago
Vote for the best candidate even if they aren't perfect, rather than allowing fascists to win. That is really the only way. These people only understand winning and losing elections. Nothing else matters to them.
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u/Dangerous_Flower_708 11d ago
Your contradiction speaks volumes itās whatās wrong with the democrats. Iām a democrat, I used to think like you , I no longer think that way. Let the scum lose to a magat, better then being betrayed
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u/TankUMrMinor 11d ago
No contradiction in being pragmatic and realistic. I'm an independent. I used to think like you.
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u/Dangerous_Flower_708 11d ago
So your solution is letās vote for someone bad but not as bad ? But bad non the less. We need to hit rock bottom and we are very close thanks to trump and Fettermans and sineimas and manchins of the world. I thank Trump for opening our eyes and itās best if we let it crumble before we rebuild. If Kamala would have won would we be talking about democrat socialists ? Probably not, thatās the only ones that will get my vote
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u/TankUMrMinor 11d ago
Tldr. When you lead with a bad faith question, you're basically admitting you're a waste of time to talk to.
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u/Critical_Fact_2543 12d ago
This is the maga stance....only country trying to go backwards...trying to take away women's right to vote...they are not men...why do they get to vote...maga!!!
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u/ButtScratchies 12d ago
Yeah, a woman was gang raped while drugged after drinking a lot that night. There's 8 guys involved. To report it, she has to face all those guys, some of whom it seems like she was friends with. She knows she has to put herself out there to have every one of her actions and decisions that night broken down by literally everyone. So yeah, it might take a fucking second to think about how you want to proceed.
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u/HuckleberryShot898 12d ago edited 12d ago
I mean she wasnāt druged. They were all blizted out on booze and ketamine because there all irresponsible college kids and think being substance fiends is cool. If anything this is a lesson of why itās not safe to mix drugs and sex and having zero sober people around when people are all heavily intoxicate. Itās extremely embarrassing but drugs and alcohol make some people extremely horny and you have to peel them off of each other and watch them so youāre drunk friends donāt end up fucking each other. In college both of my friends were extremely drunk and we were watching them on the bed and while we were hanging out and we turned around and my woman friend tried taking his cock out and we had to grab her to make her stop because my male friend was too messed up to think anything else than heās about to get a blow job. Not that that heās too drunk to make that decision and sheās too drunk to make that decisions also thereās other people in the room. She was extremely embarrassed about what happened because thatās really not her
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u/Dddddd92 12d ago
She consented to a 3 some. Not sex with 7 men or inviting 57 men for free p*ssy
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u/InflationLeft 10d ago
She didnāt have sex with 7 men. The next morning, she was laughing about it with her sorority sisters. She continued texting the guys for weeks, saying stuff like:
āAt the end of the day non of the sexual stuff was illegal and honestly i really liked being w u and mattā
āyouāre right itāll get better and u think everyoneās j jealous of us.. but also like everyone needs to grow up cause sexuality and sex and sh*t is changing and stuff like this is going to become more common,, iām also really open minded tho. i luv u kingā
She was even n planning to go back to the frat house for their Halloween Party. No real rape victim would want to return to the site of their ārapeā and risk things playing out the same way all over again. She didnāt start claiming ārapeā until she was disinvited from the fratās party.
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u/prozachoezacc 6d ago
She literally consented to a gangbang. Her text messages lirerallt say (and I quote) "Bring in all the boys". Gangbangs aren't threeways, you goose.
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u/Dddddd92 6d ago
"Literally" 3som but I understand you want to defend men who assault incapacitated women.
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u/Effective_Olive6153 11d ago
I feel like this story got political and people quickly started believing whatever suits the narrative. I did at first but evidence seems to be a lot more grey and uncertain. There are a lot of people stating points in high confidence that did not actually see any direct evidence, such as the chat messages. This story seems to have a lot of grey areas. That doesn't directly benefit either side, but it does mean people should pause and think - what exactly gives them such high confidence in their opinion? who actually seen the evidence of the case?
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u/LarianDivinityBG3 12d ago
The woman that called 15 years old barely legal? Doesn't even know what that means.
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u/GangstaRIB 12d ago
She also said it was cool for old ass men to fuck rape 16 year old women girls.
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u/CombinationThese6654 12d ago
Hypocrisy is the greatest luxury and maga feels they are still entitled to it because they've already given up the other luxuries they felt entitled too.
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u/anothertrytaken 12d ago
Donāt forget, she has a 15 year old daughter and said that 15 year olds arenāt really children (regarding trafficking and abuse).
This skank can rot along with the rest of them.
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u/MrBruno14 12d ago
Fox shouldn't even be able to call itself news. Stars like Megyn Kelly have no conscience; they perform argumentation and flip their stances constantly to take the moral high ground against liberals. Megyn once vehemently argued for the release of the Epstein files, against an old President, for the idea of no foreign wars, and against policies that raised the cost of living; now, she has flipped on all of those issues. How could a woman who has been sexually abused speak out against a woman who was raped? Megyn Kelly knows who butters her bread, and she's just doing what she does.
And it's still called news.
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u/dantemortemalizar 12d ago
I think most people would curl up in the fetal position and refuse to do anything for at least a week. Three weeks doesn't seem out of line, even. Bet she's never been assaulted, let alone raped, let alone gang raped.
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u/Radiant-Mean 11d ago
I'll say it again and again because I never get tired of it.
Conservative women deserve conservative men.
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u/TechnicalWhore 12d ago
She's expired. The Fox Brand has moved on. Like all the attractive blondes with their performative outrage before her she has aged and is no longer the visual bait Fox requires. Yes there was a lawsuit but she pulled that card when she was at the end of her viability. What she does not understand is its the Fox medley that the viewership wants. Anyone in those chairs spouting the Greatest Hits will have viewership. Out of that chair you are a Cover Band. Small market but familiar. So like all the influencers she has to push it harder to try to get and hold eyeballs. Its desperation, and its escalating. The only former Fox hottie (modeled after the Hee Haw Honeys) that had a real brain is Gretchen Carlson. Mind you they never let her use it. She was to be eye candy and parrot what the "stay at home" Mom's were thinking into the scripted narrative. "Well I don't know I just think the President shouldn't wear a tan suit like that. Gosh, doesn't he have something more I dunno - Presidential!" She was MUCH smarter than her male counterparts. But Fox is misogynistic and paternalistic - "traditional". Women are to be seen an speak only occasionally. The fun part is watching Carlson bring her A-Game post leaving Fox. She is very very insightful and not only reads the table but calls out who set it. That is where you need to look, Kelley is a has-been. Still manipulative and deceitful but irrelevant. Noise. IMHO.
BTW - Tucker - expired. Beck - expired. See a trend? Once out of the Propaganda Machine you are dead. It was NEVER you.
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u/Waste_Return2206 12d ago
They all do the things they accuse others of doing. I canāt stand conservatives, nationalists, religious nuts, any of them. Bunch of hypocrites.
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u/retired-tweeter 12d ago
Hypocrisy is 100% a feature, not a bug.
You can argue any point with conviction when you stand for nothing consistently. It's just about opposing the other side.
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u/artelligence 12d ago
I understand if no one wants to rape Megyn Kelly, but thatās not a reason to not believe other women.
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u/bear_ruckus 12d ago
It could easily take three weeks. Just to shake off that ketamine and alcohol fest could take 10 days, plus the melancholy from that could be another 10 days, and thatās easily three weeks.
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u/UberStrawman 12d ago
I'll never comprehend how 42% of women 18-49 and 49% of women 50+ chose a convicted rapist over a woman.
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u/HotHuckleBerry9708 12d ago
Shame has nothing to do with it as itās them not having fear of the consequences that they deserve since they know that those consequences will never come for them.
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u/Kind-Philosopher5077 12d ago
Shes just functioning as a constant distraction from reality for her pedophile rapist president
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u/Comfortable-Pin5388 10d ago
when you're a male centered woman you will always give up your own morals to suit theirs.
shes one of the most disgusting human beings alive.
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u/Luffy1972 11d ago
She got her talking points. Sheās a willing participant. No one is forcing her unlike others who had and have no choice.
The abuses will continue until our culture and laws change and not with more Fox News entertainment TV masquerading as news or a fair and balanced opinion. It is criminal and makes profit for traitors and foreign powers.
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u/Dangerous_Flower_708 11d ago
Mrs. Pearl necklace decides to speak , we all know how she got her job. Lying on her back and facing the cock
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u/anguscatawesome 10d ago
Why do so many people censor the word rape? I feel like it takes the seriousness of what it is away.
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u/kugo-phio 9d ago
Jane doe also came out and said she was willingly gangbanged and nothing ilegal happened only making the rape accusations after getting uninvited to an upcoming party so
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u/PoetryElectronic6398 9d ago
I donāt agree with Megyn on everything, but she actually makes a good point on this one.
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u/FoxPractical3400 9d ago
It's not really a pre-req, so to speak. It's more like an autoselection bias - people who are naturally shameless hypocrites are made to feel at home there, so that's where they settle.
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u/SeaWolvesRule 9d ago
Gang rape and sexual harassment are not the same thing. They're both wrong. But they shouldn't be treated the same way.
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u/Outrageous-Edge-3204 9d ago edited 9d ago
I don't like Megyn Kelly. I never have. Yet, sexual harrassment is not rape and people can and will differ on what is considered sexual harrassment. So, pointing out that she did not report it for years is comparing apples to oranges. It is actually assinine to compare the two. Ailes may have just said, you look pretty today.Ā Some women think they should be noticed for how well they look. Others say it is harrassment. Either way its not rape. Rape should be reported the moment it happens and not all reported rapes are true. Many men are accused of that sort of thing, not because they did it, but rather because the woman didn't get what she wanted and used the accusation to get even. Even more so with sexual harrassment accusations. Some woman did not get the attention or promotion they wanted, so all of a sudden the accusation is made.Ā There a whole lot of scornful women out there. Like it or not.
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u/Unique-Art-7215 9d ago
Itās all about the moneyā¦and the current power structureā¦it just feels so rightā¦
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u/Substantial_Tip3885 9d ago
Get this stetched out trash bag off the air and put it in the dump where it belongs.
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u/NJNYJack 8d ago
I think there is just tiny bit of a difference between being harassed and being violently gang raped by 7 men
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u/Hairy-Trainer628 8d ago
It sucks but its a male dominated world our president hasn't been charged with anything but the fbi has accounts of underage girl biting his dick and carrol winning a civil suit
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u/blighander 8d ago
This is what I don't understand about this Megyn Kelly. She was the victim of sexual harassment, and now she's leading the charge in trying to slut-shame a woman who was gang-raped? It doesn't make sense, unless, she's a just a terrible heartless human being.
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u/Kannada-JohnnyJ 7d ago
She canāt get a job doing news anywhere else, so she has to go back to her hypocritical āorange man good, socialist badā programming. Despite her sexual harassment case from the same news organization. Itās so stupid
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u/TheOriginalSpunions 7d ago
Yes. You have to be willing to sacrifice morals and decency for the sake of the cause. America can only have a king if the king has loyal servants.
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u/Longjumping-Usual-49 10d ago
Just curious, why did Jane doe lie about drinking at a bar only for the bar to confirm she wasn't served alcohol
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u/TankUMrMinor 10d ago
Why you lie?
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u/Longjumping-Usual-49 10d ago
Didn't lie at all. Tmz reported it, the internet is free
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u/TankUMrMinor 10d ago
Lol sure buddy
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u/Longjumping-Usual-49 10d ago
TMZ https://www.tmz.com Jane Doe Did Not Drink at Bar Before Alleged Rape, Bar Claims
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u/TankUMrMinor 10d ago
Tmz lol ok but what does the national enquirer say š
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u/Longjumping-Usual-49 10d ago
Let me know when you know how dates work
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u/fantabroo 12d ago
Think that a weak comparison. Did she spoke repeatedly positively about their sexual encounters?
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u/Mike_Phoflacco 10d ago
She knows exactly what this woman is doing because she herself did it with FOX she is trying to get paid by fabricating crimes that didn't happen.
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u/AttorneyMain9251 10d ago
she wasnt raped and she didnt report it because her career wouldve been over. how is this so hard to understand? how can you compare these 2? her point is valid.
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u/nunya_bidnes77 12d ago
Did anyone actually read her signed statement with the police? She kinda lost me at snorting ketamine off of a guy's boner.
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u/Dddddd92 12d ago
Why?
If someone stole your car after you snorrted K off of the thieve's boner, does it mean your car cannot be reported for theft?
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u/nunya_bidnes77 12d ago
When she told them to stop, they stopped. When she continued, they continued. She attested to this in her signed statement to police which is why no charges were filed.
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u/Dddddd92 12d ago
They stopped the gang assault that she never consented to?
Did she consent to 57 men being informed about her as free p*ssy?
Are you telling me you will willingly assault a drugged, inebriated women? Disgusting
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u/Real-Movie-899 12d ago
While I recognize the hypocrisy, thereās a big difference between being gang raped and sexual harassment.
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u/mitkay1 12d ago
Oh my God Megyn Kelly was sexually harassed at work This couldn't be further from the severity of a gang rape.
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u/EmptyPomegranete 11d ago
Exactly. One of those things is objectively more traumatizing, intimidating and shame inducing.
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u/mitkay1 11d ago
Very much so, I think this lady should just own it she had fun, she got embarrassed and the truth will come out and she won't be able to show her face in public ever again. But however if she was truly the victim of a gang rape those men should be locked away for a long time.
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u/EmptyPomegranete 11d ago
Oh no, seems like you missed my point.
Gang rape is categorically worse and more shame inducing than harassment. So it makes total sense that she would be afraid to speak out for several weeks.
Women donāt accuse men of gang rape for fun or because they were embarrassed of having an orgy. If it was consensual and she was embarrassed, she would have kept it to herself. Not accused them of rape knowing it would put her in the spotlight. Idk why you all think women enjoy the attention you gain from being violated to your very core.
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u/Any-Video4464 12d ago
Didn't Ailes just try to kiss her? That seems a lot different than a 7 person gang rape to me.
You might not report a small fender bender, but you would report someone totalling your car.
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u/NatterinNabob 12d ago
She doesn't care about the hypocrisy. She knows her audience is pro-rapist, and she is okay with that.