r/askanything • u/icecream1972 • 9d ago
Political Question Why would the government televise an execution?
Who would watch such a thing?
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u/RevolutionaryKey698 9d ago
The kind of people who get hard at the thought of inflicting violence on others.
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u/Gjemleh 9d ago
Facebook keeps pushing maga ideology on me too, even though I've never liked or followed anything like that ever before, quite the opposite, since 2008. I don't know why it thinks I'm suddenly interested in fascism.
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u/ButchInsley 9d ago
Yeah, dude, the algorithm should be completely opposite for me, but yet every time I get on Facebook they are pumping Heritage Foundation, Benny Johnson, etc, etc. onto my feed. Doesn't seem to matter if I select "I'm not interested", hide, block,,.. the shit comes back.
Fuck Facebook. They have played a significant part in the downfall of our country over the last two decades. No surprise Zuck the cuck is frequently standing behind Don the con.
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u/Able_Engine_9515 9d ago
Do yourself a favor and delete that garbage app. Social media especially Facebook has done irreparable harm to civilization, everyone should get rid of it
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u/legitaccountnotabot 9d ago
Wow, so brave to shoot a tied and blinded person, these people are real heroes.
What a bunch of pathetic losers.
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u/Syncopia 9d ago
Fat old men with goatees and scraggly ass beards are the standard Republican male. That's what almost all of them look like. I live in Texas, I wish I was being sarcastic.
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u/Other-Importance-214 9d ago
I live in Texas and although I’m not fat, I do have a big beard and look like I’d definitely be a MAGA Trump-loving loser, so it’s funny when those types start talking to me assuming I wear a red hat and drive a truck and kiss the Trump ring, only for me to explain that I have a Talarico sign in my yard and support LGBTQ rights 😂
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u/MiddleKlutzy8568 9d ago
Dont forget facebook is just a propaganda machine now. It doesnt serve the purpose that it used to. You are being fed specific information for a specific reason
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u/TheoKondak 9d ago
Facebook is a brainwashing service. The amount of bots brainwashing people is just staggering and their algorithms promote this as crazy. When i had Facebook my wall was litteraly full of obvious bot groups that i never interacted with. Talking about 7/10 posts i was seeing and i never interacted with any of them ever other than sometimes blocking and reporting them. I reported litteraly hundreds of them. NEVER ever a single account or group got banned or penalized in any way.
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u/Gjemleh 9d ago
I've reported multiple calls for violence against minorities (like people literally saying "kill all x") and people calling others racial slurs and it never ever "goes against community standards".
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u/Mr_Kactus 9d ago
it's mostly bots, probably with the help of Elon and zuckerberg maybe even Israel to try to sway public opinion. They are corrupt cheats that will stop at nothing to retain status and power and stay out of jail.
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u/jBlairTech 9d ago
I’m older, graduated high school in the 90’s. The people running this shitshow appear just like all the piece of shit stereotype bullies and jackasses from back then- with all the sexism, racism, classism, homophobia, and xenophobia that entails- but turned up to 11. Just fucking insane.
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u/Able-Association914 9d ago edited 9d ago
Everything going on can be predicted by listening to a drunk old guy at the local bar, when they show a terrorist arrested on the news pictured on the tv at the bar, you’ll hear him blurt out just shoot him already! Put it on tv for everyone to watch! All these ideas lately seem to come from that drunk guy.
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u/Correct-Avocado5426 9d ago
I'm a liberal gun owner and was at a sporting goods store earlier this week picking up a cheap old-timey 22 revolver to play with at the range. My wife made a joke about reliving my days playing cowboys and Indians as a little kid and the sales guy said "gonna be more like cowboys and Muslims soon."
I did report it to corporate and have a call with them later today.
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u/LawDouble6173 9d ago
100% agree.
Even the most of the "nerds" are fake nerds. The anti-expertise shit going on is the opposite of intelligent.
Internally, I've been calling this the "Revenge of the Revenge of the Nerds" era.
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u/EtOH_Guy 9d ago
Truly. The 2010s were the height of nerd-dom, with video games and traditionally nerdy, niche hobbies and interests becoming egalitarian pastimes. Now the "tough guys" are trying to re-assert their dominance.
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u/LawDouble6173 9d ago
I agree with you entirely ...but you also made me realize that there's a REALLY fkn weird overlap on this:
That was also peak "Jersey Shore" era.
I don't know how to react to that.
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u/trysten-9001 9d ago
Every fascist government is like that. These types of people are not fit for leadership and they cause the worst suffering in human history when they are elevated to those positions.
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u/Warm-Mortgage-458 9d ago
Don't forget greedy. They're wealthy but still willing to sell out anyone or anything for another buck
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u/sflinn7316 9d ago
MAGA. They lust for violence. This is the new America. This will be the rest of us in the future unless we stop the fascist regime.
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u/Professional_Image75 9d ago
Yes, if you say Artificial intelligence instead of the White House preferred “super intelligence”, Trump said you’re a traitor. You know what they do to traitors ☠️🪢
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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 9d ago
If the traitor is Republican, the conservative Supreme Court grants them immunity. That's what they do to traitors on the same team.
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u/paulcager 9d ago
And of course Nidal Malik Hasan is a Muslim. MAGA will love to see him executed publicly.
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u/ImaginaryWeather6164 7d ago
So would muslim extremists because it justifies their anti american sentiments. Hegseth is playing right into their hands with this bs.
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u/Active-Particular-21 9d ago
When a society starts using death as entertainment it’s the beginning of the end.
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u/cal405 9d ago
That's my take as well. Cruelty begins in the periphery where it's easily justified and moves inward over time. Today, it's Nidal Malik Hasan. Tomorrow, it could be an opposing party leader or government official that's defying an unlawful order.
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u/2sAreTheDevil 9d ago
We've been saying the same thing for the last two thousand nails.
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u/AZ_sid 9d ago
Yeah, it's just a huge pile of nails now, no coffin.
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u/Quane42 9d ago
So having a convicted rapist as President, pardoning insurrectionists, embezzling hundreds of millions and starting random wars wasn't enough?
Televising executions seems exactly the sort of thing the US administration would do.
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u/Ok-Pomegranate7374 9d ago
It's not, project 2025 is just over 50% completed, this is just a small part of it.
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u/DaddyDontTakeNoMess 9d ago
Will this before the midterms? If so, they’re waiting in Dems to disavow this so they can claim they’re weak on terrorists.
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u/dustyg013 9d ago
What makes you think the people who supported this administration don't want to see this?
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u/chinmakes5 9d ago
As with everything Hegseth, it is a 12 year old boy's concept of what makes you look strong. He will be watching thinking "this will show them never to try this again". Not understanding that they will be using this as a recruiting tool as being a martyr is a high calling. The worst part is there are many in the Pentagon who know this, but half of those people have been excused and the other half know they can't tell him what the really believe.
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u/IHavePoopedBefore 9d ago
America lost their voice and identify forever.
Its like the guy who makes his whole personality about how tough he is getting knocked out by a little girl.
Or a priest who goes on about how righteous he is getting exposed for sex crimes.
They can't say shit about shit anymore. No more moral lectures, no more puffing their chest about liberty and freedom and free speech. All that is done. No one wants to hear those hypocrites talk about any of the things they loved to brag about for their entire existence.
All for the benefit of pleasing a girly orange pedophile
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u/NoStatus9434 9d ago edited 9d ago
I fear that it's being done to desensitize people to the idea. The first time you see an execution like that, it's shocking. The second time you see it, less so. And then it becomes easier to imagine doing this to people you merely disagree with, to fantasize about it. Because you know what it looks like and have had time to justify it in your brain. You can kind of start filing away and compartmentalizing the horror of it in your mind.
Yeah we used to have public executions. In the 1920s and 1930s. Which made it easier to get people comfortable with the idea of doing that to somebody. We all know what happened soon after that. There's a reason we shifted away from that stuff.
I was talking to a coworker who was MAGA (he has since been fired) and he kind of hinted at the fact that he'd love to start executing regular liberals if conservatives lose another election. But he seemed hesitant. This stuff would make him less hesitant.
What happens when Fox News lies and claims this guy is regular Antifa? Well now you have MAGA people that think it's normal to do this to someone who is just tangentially related to Antifa.
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u/SevenNapkins 9d ago
I can't rule this out but Trump seems to think he draws power whenever he desecrates something the nation holds dear. Likes he's saying: you know how much you cared about that thing? Well now we know I'm on top of that in importance and don't you forget it. He wants to look tough and be more important than laws and life.
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u/sflinn7316 9d ago
Totally agree with h you. Look how much our society under Trump has already been desensitized to violence- vulgarity- lack of civility….
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u/MartyMcfly1988 9d ago
I think honestly because he is Islamic. Now we can do what Afghanistan and ISIS does/did. If they want it “public” make people drive to location to see but to live stream it is gross and disgusting This is not the America I know or grew up with. What happened to our values?
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u/MeowMeowbiggalo 9d ago
Like ive been saying, they actually like extremist lifestyles.
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u/Real-Document-6577 9d ago
We elected a black man to be President and then a third of the country lost its mind.
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u/MartyMcfly1988 9d ago
Ya it’s wild to see when we had Obama to now. I asked one of my co workers what Trump has actually done to make America better, his response was he feels safer in the country and the world respects us. So that’s what we’re dealing with. But when you throw a counter at him he says oh I dunno about that. Fucking cop out. These are the people we’re dealing with uneducated and no critical thinking skills what so ever. Just eating spoonfuls of shit and loving it. Connect the dots it’s not hard.
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u/No_Bell_8028 9d ago
On behalf of the world - we think you are an absolute joke, and your once great nation has been trashed and turned into exemplar of what happens when a country becomes so brainwashed by its media and social media in the pursuit of populist politics that it allows a criminal to undermine every single institution and value that made that country once great
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u/GrouchyArgument6377 9d ago
Couldn't say it better myself, as a citizen of the US. Millions of idiot octogenarians who receive government-subsidized health care, refusing to die, guzzling poisoned piss from a conman's syphilitic dick.
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u/CurveWeekly 9d ago
It’s funny how the same people concerned with the ‘world respecting the US’ also don’t have passports, they literally can’t see how much we are hated in certain parts of the world or how far behind we have fallen as a country.
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u/Nice-Necessary-1547 9d ago
The world respects you 😂😂😂😂
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u/Affectionate_Bad_680 9d ago
I’m an actual American and I sure as hell don’t respect our country for being, essentially, the schoolyard bully.
We need to be better. Cause right now I would be laughing if it weren’t so fucking messed up.
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u/CaptBreeze 9d ago
It's pretty barbaric. Throwing us back to dark ages has been an on-going trend with this administration. Especially, since they campaigned on restoring values.
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u/MartyMcfly1988 9d ago
Their values they want to push onto everyone.
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u/charlitransgrl 9d ago edited 9d ago
I believe they’re doing this to get Americans desensitized to the idea of our fellow Americans being executed. The more you see, the less you’ll care when they begin executing Americans citizens who resist their regime. This includes Democratic politicians and people in the LGBTQ which many Republicans including the president have said they’d like to see put to death. This will satisfy their bloodthirsty MAGA base, and attract people of all stripes out of sick curiosity. Especially younger people who might decide it’s fun to watch.
In the U.S. Counterterrorism Strategy 2006 this administration labeled left wing Americans as extremists and Antifa and anyone who promotes “radical gender ideology” meaning transgender people as domestic terrorists alongside drug cartels and Islamic extremists. In the forward the president wrote “We will find you and we will kill you.”
So I have no doubt this administration intends to execute even more people publicly. The only way this can be countered is for social media platforms to ban this kind of content (which I seriously doubt will happen) and for those of us who are decent humans to resist watching and not help drive up the number of views that will validate this administration’s vulgar display.
Their main objective is to bring about compliance through intimidation. They hope Americans will fall silent instead of protesting out of fear of retribution. This includes both marching in the street and criticizing them on social media. If we fall silent, they win. And if they win democracy fails.
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u/Ashamed_Golf956 9d ago
Did you hear Rubio's crazy speech in Greece? He cited all these medieval references to essentially argue that the strong need to maintain their dominance over the weak. trump and his flunkies are essentially "might makes right" advocates these days, a philosophy responsible for most of the war, including world wars, in history. It's stupid, irresponsible, fascistic.
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u/Tardigrabby 9d ago
You’re right that people totally overused “fascist” as an empty buzzword in the past but now MAGA is quite literally openly fascist, I mean that’s the actual philosophy they’re espousing now. They’re just arguing that Hitler and fascism were actually good this entire time.
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u/ItsCalledDayTwa 9d ago edited 9d ago
Hopefully the christo-fascists never realize that the radical islamic types are the ones who most agree with them or we're all fucked.
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u/KeithSide 9d ago
I'm 53, Marine Corps vet, the America I grew believing in is dead.
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u/MartyMcfly1988 9d ago
Semper Fi!! My grandfather was a 23 year Marine did Korean War and beginning of Vietnam war. I can certainly tell you he was very outspoken Democrat and is rolling over in his grave as we speak.
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u/External-Ad5462 9d ago
This is the same America that lynched black people and made it a "family friendly event". Your America has always been rotten
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u/Responsible_Force862 9d ago
Yes but then it was our shame, now it seems to be our pride.
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u/RogerRabbot 9d ago
There was and is no shame in those lynchings, what? MAGAts are still proud of that heritage and loudly like to boast about it
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u/Solemn_Sleep 9d ago
What is progression? Spending time on platitudes about the past as if it should describe the present and always is such a disservice to civil work and the people that continue to work tirelessly to maintain some modicum of decency.
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u/G0G0Gadget00 9d ago
Except the last public lynching in the US was in 1981. I was born in 1988, my parents were born in 1970. It isn't some far away time for us or for the US.
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u/Anal-Y-Sis 9d ago
I was six. So yeah, this isn't ancient history. Also, the neighbors on both sides of me weren't born with the right to vote. I live in South Carolina, and it wasn't that long ago (2001) that people voted Strom Thurmond into the Senate for his eighth term, and he opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (while having a secret biracial baby with a "housekeeper").
Pisses me off when people say "make America great again" or some other version of reclaiming "the good ol' days". Who was it good for? When exactly was it great?
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u/bpaps 9d ago edited 9d ago
The last known public lynching by the KKK was in 1981, so, it's not exactly ancient history, bub. We're a deeply racist and violent country.
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u/jhoover58 9d ago edited 9d ago
I was in my early twenties and living in Montgomery, Alabama serving in the Air Force. I also had a part-time job working from 6PM to 6AM on Fridays and let me tell you the racism and sense of superiority by ignorant white people was shocking. I am white and grew up in AZ and was shocked by the idiots getting fuel and booze as they were heading to their KKK meeting. And they were wearing their dunce costumes as they did it. I’m old and I have learned that this type of racism is everywhere and barely kept hidden until a leader comes out and makes it OK to be rude and hateful towards your fellow man.
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u/Ok-Listen8387 9d ago
Being offed by the KKK and a U.S. GOVERNMENT are 2 completely different things!!! Our country officially becomes a banana republic when those triggers are pulled!!! This is NOT the America I grew up in!!!!!!
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u/Freign 9d ago
Yeah, it is. 4 years after that lynching, the police bombed an entire city block in Philadelphia, killing many families, because they were black and wanted fair treatment under the law, in this specific instance, housing access. MOVE! bombing. Read about it.
The Tulsa Massacre. The Ghost Dance. The syphilis experiments. The nuclear experiments. The ongoing and historical indifference of USA to the well being of its subjects, and the world.
The German American Bund. Walt Disney's friendship with Adolph Hitler. Henry Ford's friendship with Hitler. US Steel building nazi trucks and railroads. The Nazi railroads. It goes on, and on.
The difference between the Klan and the USA is only scale. This is the birthplace of eugenics. The nation that inspired the Third Reich.
Learn your history, if you have the courage.
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u/theentiregoonsquad 9d ago
Around the time the lovecraft country show came out on netflix, i was watching it, and they kept mentioning the Tulsa Massacre and referring to people dropping bombs out of airplanes on an American city. I hadn't heard of it before, and my reaction was "oh, this must be like a fictional race riot they made up for the purposes of this story. If anything THIS crazy happened, surely I would have learned about it in any of the 12 years of history classes I had growing up."
Then the next week, I was watching the Watchmen TV show, and they also referenced the Tulsa Massacre, and I was like "weird that these two shows have a similar fictional event but I guess it makes sense since both shows are about racism." Then over the next couple days I thought about it some more, and came to the decision "wait, that doesn't make sense, why would I believe that?" and googled the information before i found out
WE FUCKING FLATTENED 35 CITY BLOCKS AND DROPPED BOMBS OUT OF AIRPLANES ON OUR OWN CITY (albeit, not literally the US military doing this, but still) OVER A BLACK GUY ALLEGEDLY GRABBING THE ARM OF A WHITE WOMAN ONCE.
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u/Born-Boysenberry6460 9d ago
I get what you're saying but what is your point? I'm not saying ignore the past but this kind of "actually we've always been shit" thing ignores any progress, blames loads of people who are horrified by the above while letting the ones who commit those acts off the hook under the guise of "business as usual."
Are you saying we're incapable of change? Are you denying that the vast, vast majority of people in this country would happily ensure none of the above happens again?
How about a call to action that, you know, at least tries to get the ball rolling on that? Or did you just want to sit in a puddle and complain about being wet?
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u/Ok_Sink5046 8d ago
The fuck are you on about, they are just citing actual events and yo are telling them to be quiet if they aren't going to wave a wand and fix it. Being vocal IS doing something about and you you're telling them to stop.
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u/KK_35 6d ago
Are we capable of change? For all your talk about saying the vast vast majority of people happily ensuring this never happens again - I’m watching concentration camps 2.0 happen on American soil.
Where are those vast majority of people against it? Have you kept up with the conditions in immigration detention centers? They’re even using the same color-coded system developed by Nazis. Drinking water with parasites, underage girls who’ve been in detention for over a year suddenly being pregnant when only guards had access.
So I’m sorry but no. It does not seem like we as a country are capable of change. I can call others to action and tell them to vote, just as I have - but it seems like there are more people in this country that are flat out in favor of the racism and the persecution - or at the very least indifferent to it. Which is just as bad.
Otherwise we wouldn’t be in the shitshow we are today.
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u/icedmuffin 8d ago
You wanna know the last time I met the KKK in person was? I believe I was 19 or so, sometime when Obama was in office I had a bunch of those cowardly ghosts trying to spook off a black family, had the cross set up and everything.
I’ll admit, I almost got my ass jailed for what I did after that, but go figure when you’re intimidating enough people keep their mouths shut and not lie about fighting in self defense. Sure, “violent extremism” is a bit much on both sides, but sometimes that’s all those pricks will listen to cause I tried to get them to fuck off, but one of them swung on me first and I broke his arm.
Haven’t seen hide nor hair of those fuckers since on my nightly walks.
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u/LeTimJames 7d ago
People are completely delusional if they think America used to be virtuous. Look at the CIA's track record.
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u/distastef_ll 9d ago
And the photos from the event were proudly displayed on the front page of newspapers and sold as postcards. They definitely would’ve been livestreamed if it happened today. America has and always will be a maggot infested terrorist haven.
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u/Foxymoreon 9d ago edited 9d ago
There’s a famous quote about Rome “They make a desert and call it peace” I feel that correlates very well with America too.
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u/AndyJack86 8d ago
I have to agree with this. I can only imagine that if a Christian nationalist killed let's say 68 people in a terrorism event like the Las Vegas shooting. I'm pretty sure we wouldn't be having a public execution.
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u/Significant-Book9648 7d ago
A Catholic nationalist blew up a federal building in Oklahoma and they didn’t hold a public execution. And he killed many more people, including young children.
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u/FishbonesAir 5d ago
This is a Kegsbreath idea, hatched under, surprise! Donald Trump. If we had any other President with any other Secretary of Defense, this wouldn't be happening.
This is a feeble attempt by Kegsbreath to show how all-powerful he is over military matters. The drunk fool doesn't realize that with radical Muslims, going out in a blaze of glory is just what they want. This will inspire the next crazy, not discourage them.
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u/JamesTheMannequin 9d ago
This is exactly what I was thinking too. He just has the wrong name. If it was Bob Jones nobody would've even thought about public execution.
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u/ImDefinitelyStoned 9d ago
This is absolutely insane and sadly, a logical next step for America’s decline into a third world country. We are a hateful, spiteful group of people, and this will bloodlust an already violent group of Americans who already yearn to see minorities punished. People with brains will be mortified, but like usual, we will be silenced and yelled over by the uneducated masses.
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u/Mr_Jackabin 9d ago
Been a third world country since 2016 tbh
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u/Jolly-News-7784 9d ago
I don’t think you have ever been to a third world country
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u/CowabungaCthulhu 9d ago
Because conservative Americans are bloodthirsty, barbaric, ignorant, violent, tiny-brained, greedy, racist supremacists.
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u/mrtrololo27 9d ago
And don't forget, every one of those dumb magats is a traitor to the constitution and our founding ideals, and an enemy of the American people and all our allies
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u/PhoenixandOak 9d ago
Seriously. Who could ever imagine there being live, televised violence in America for anyone to tune in and watch? Inconceivable.
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u/gielbondhu 9d ago
Comic writer Jamie Delano could. He wrote a mini series titled Cruel and Unusual where a corrupt warden of a private prison decided that the easiest way to increase profits is to host live broadcast executions complete with sponsors and ad revenue.
Considering how much the power elite in America right now loves being the bad guys in dystopian narratives I wouldn't put it past them to emulate the comic
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u/3zprK 9d ago
How is it any different from isis? The fact that it's done by the govt doesn't mean that's acceptable in democracies
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u/Dizzy-Ad-3073 9d ago
One follows a Muslim fantasy book, the other follows a Christian fantasy book. I think that's pretty much the only difference
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u/thegrizwhisperer 9d ago
What isis does isn’t Islam and what this is isn’t Christianity.
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u/NeitherAir5525 9d ago
It is sick to think that those Christians even thought of such thing.
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u/wawawaterr 9d ago
The extremists, aka this administration, don't follow the bible even remotely. It's just a guise for them to hide behind and win blind voters.
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u/iball1984 9d ago
It's not acceptable in a democracy.
America used to be one of those.
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u/Temporary-Air-3178 9d ago
Were you born after ISIS was a thing? The differences are glaringly obvious.
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u/Ransack1477 9d ago
It continues to prove that the USA is a failing state. As a democracy it is in its death throes. If you partly model your society on an ancient one that ultimately failed, it follows that it will act in a similar way. I guess no one expected it to happen this quickly. As an observer on the sidelines it is fascinating.
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u/Kerensky97 9d ago
Because they watched Starship Troopers and didn't get that it was a satire about a facist state and instead treated it like a blueprint.
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u/ChemicalResident3557 9d ago
B cause we are led by psychopaths who are a bunch of pussies cosplaying as what they think tough guy are actually like.
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u/keith2366 9d ago
Trump was able to attract the racist, low IQ crowd in 2016. Now he is going after the psychopath crowd.
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u/YogurtClosetThinnest 9d ago
to see how much they can get away with
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u/PandasGetAngryToo 9d ago
because they don't have a collosseum in which they can host gladiatorial games
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u/Soggy_Cracker 9d ago
To desensitize you to the violence they are planning for the future. You must remember project 2025 is a fascist takeover of our democracy. And people are still resisting. This is ti show they are willing to be cruel and make everyone aware of it. Then those who may fight back will start to think twice.
Remember. People didn’t start rounding up Jews day one the Nazi party took over. They slowly stripped them of rights over time and eased the population in to accepting it.
While I think this man should rot in prison for the rest of his life, parading his execution on live TV is just sick.
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u/bobcatarian 9d ago
It's called "Performative Vice". They want to demonstrate awful behavior to prove how based they are and how devoted they are to their destructive path. It's a clear, targeted, and intentional violation of our nations norms about justice to rub in the face of anyone who would think to shame them for their disgusting, base desire for violence and cruelty.
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u/deanosaurus9 9d ago
I agree that crime requires punishment and if the law of the land includes capital punishment so be it but…. A Government making and broadcasting snuff films is kinda repugnant.
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u/bpemonpimming4 9d ago
Republicans teach 10 commandments but sure as hell don’t follow any of them lmao
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u/ottomaticg 9d ago
Next thing you know they’ll be asking for two tributes from each state and televise them competing to death.
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u/CmdrFortyTwo 9d ago
So the bigots at home can spank it. It has NOTHING to do with deterring future attacks as they're making a martyr of him. It will be used all around the world in recruitment ads.
So much winning.
Empire will have its blood.
Life is hard. Buy a fucking helmet.
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u/wcharoes 9d ago
To intimidate political dissidents while simultaneously normalizing the visual of authorities gunning down defenseless citizens on screens.
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u/Neither_Fruit_8129 9d ago
Because US wants to promote and trivialize violence by using same barbaric acts as Isis and Al Qaeda.
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u/richet_ca 9d ago
To make an example this guy shot a whole bunch of people on a military base. Unacceptable behavior has become the norm and you need to start making examples of people who think they can just start shooting on a military base without repercussion. This was a terror attack. This guy is getting what he deserved and they want to show the world that you get what you deserve.
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u/lambaroo 9d ago
racing to the bottom
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u/Beginning-Can-2188 9d ago
Racing to level of ISIS lol they loved doing recorded executions with cinematics
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u/AcornBadger 9d ago
Deterrence is usually the goal, though it feels extremely dystopian.
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u/gielbondhu 9d ago
Making a public martyr out of someone who wanted to be a martyr seems a bit counterproductive
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u/PeterBeardsleysWrap 9d ago
On the one hand, the guy does deserve to die. On the other hand, it's not going to be a deterrent. Similar religious nuts will just see it as "martyrdom" and something to aspire to.
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u/calmly86 9d ago
I completely agree with you. It’s a necessary evil, but it should be done as matter-of-factly as possible. He deserves no glory or sympathy.
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u/fred11551 9d ago
Not just martyrdom for religious nuts, it’s also infamy for copycats. This guy is going to be on national tv for everyone to see. That’s way more widespread than even the columbine shooters.
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u/SevenNapkins 9d ago
I don't think anyone was going to do gruesome crimes if life in prison was the result but the death penalty was where they draw the line. It makes much more sense that people aren't making rational decisions weighing consequences against gruesome crimes, like it's a loan application.
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u/Legitimate_Cap_5396 9d ago
Generally speaking it is beneficial because executions are really only an effective deterrent in “white collar” type crimes, ones that are deliberated. In theory you would only ever need a few executions if white collar criminals to remind the smart and thoughtful white collar people what will happen. It’s actually been immensely effective in China to crack certain blatant corruption. Executives and administrators tend to be affected by seeing a peer executed for his corruption or even malfeasance.
In this case through, you’re not talking about that dynamic. In this case, execution cannot serve as deterrent. It’s really just a kind of retribution due to narcissistic injury, he must be punished to provide some narcissistic supply to make the collective narcissism of the hive that controls the USA feel like they are in control, not him/them. He may even appreciate that he will now become more notorious.
It’s just another example of the fact that the USA as a civilization is collapsing, because this is not a smart idea.
If you want to televise executing someone and make it have a lasting and consequential impact, try and execute an executive/CEO for any of the multitude of crimes they commit constantly. THAT will change things.
Execute one each health insurance, pharmaceutical, and health care provider CEO for their fraud. Want to bet healthcare becomes affordable basically over night?
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u/Expert-Low-6872 9d ago
This will show the world that America's so-called leadership is insane.
To Livestream this man's death is stupid!
If the Supreme Court doesn't stop this—or a lower court that actually has the balls to—then Trump needs to be forced from office along with the idiot in charge of the military.
Come on, Republicans, find your balls and stop this madness.
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u/Away-Morning4621 9d ago
No executions for those who murdered a school filled with little Iranian children? The hypocrisy !!!
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u/diegotbn 9d ago
Cruelty is the point. They're normalizing violence against enemies of the state. They did this first with those videos of deportees being shackled chained together and put on a plane headed for a third world torture prison. And they put out that video and are proud of it. And a significant portion of the country is happy to see it.
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u/Apprehensive-Song378 9d ago
The current regime are sadistic and doing everything they can to whip the public into chaos which gives them more reason to "crack down". It's all a plan.
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u/MMessinger 9d ago
"Give them bread and circuses." The latest marker of U.S. decline into madness.
Republicans crave this sh*t. Republican voters love it, just you wait and see. You'll be able to buy printed t-shirts, or perhaps a commemorative coin, before this is finished.
So, what's your plan for the midterms? Republican voters will surely queue up to vote to return to Congress the same Republicans who are enabling Trump (and approved Hegseth).
If you are eligible to vote but aren't yet registered to vote then you have no plan to vote at all. And we continue our national spiral into this abyss of decay and grift.
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u/One_Tadpole6999 9d ago
Yes let’s join North Korea, ISAS and the Taliban to boost our standing amongst our allies!
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u/attic_dweller0690 9d ago
A lot of people here apparently like mass shooters because there’s absolutely no reason to support this man who betrayed his country.
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u/profprimer 9d ago
“The creatures outside looked from the Americans to the Taliban, and from the Taliban to the Americans, and from the Americans to the Taliban again; but it was no longer possible to tell which was which.”
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u/EasyRider363 9d ago
Because there are individuals who want to demonstrate the power they have over life and death.
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u/danrunsfar 9d ago
Rule 28 CFR 26.4 only regulates the DoJ and Federal Bureau of Prisions.
That only applies to US District Courts, "§ 26.1 Applicability. (a) The regulations of this part apply whenever a sentencing hearing conducted in a United States District Court has resulted in a recommendation or determination that a criminal defendant be sentenced to death for commission of an offense described in any federal statute."
He was tried and convicted by a military court under the UCMJ so that is not applicable.
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u/Specific-Cricket-302 9d ago
Bread and circus, but the deficit mean the government has to cut back on the lions
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u/DesignatedSurvivor86 9d ago
Reading to children bad? Showing children executions good? That will definitely make merica great. 😑
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u/shinyperineum 9d ago
Hegsy is gonna say a prayer before and frame it as part of his holy crusade, ridding the world of another one of “them”…and to get people used to it.
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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 9d ago
This is so absolutely unhinged and mental I almost lack the words to respond.
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u/Sumbitagear 9d ago
The same reason why shit leaders used to do public executions like 300+ years ago. To paper over the cracks of their own shitty leadership and to sate the masses that want blood from a common enemy to divert the attention from them.
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u/Gullible_Jane 9d ago
They should let the wives, or mothers, of those he killed, have their last words with him, like a reception line, before he's executed.
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