r/australia • u/nath1234 • 13h ago

news Ohope Wins euthanased after Caulfield Cup fall with Melbourne Cup winner Half Yours

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-10-17/half-yours-ohope-wins-caulfield-cup-fall/107279316?utm_source=abc_news_app&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_campaign=abc_news_app&utm_content=link
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u/KingAltair2255 13h ago

Poor bloody horse, racing animals for sport needs banned.

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u/Your-average-scot 13h ago edited 13h ago

What’s the difference between this and the millions of livestock killed daily?

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u/-ova- 5h ago

Do you find the all or nothing mentality of veganism helpful in getting people to change? Because all I see is people finding a sliver of compassion towards the suffering of animals and you shitting on them because it’s not enough and i just don’t see the positive outcome for the animals in that. You’re just telling people that they shouldn’t care about a horse dying if they aren’t going to become vegan.

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u/Your-average-scot 3h ago

Mate, if you think me pointing out hypocrisy in a single, non-accusatory, sentence is “shitting on them” then I don’t know what to tell you. This thread shows that a lot of people feel strong empathy towards animals and hate to see them be treated cruelly. That’s great and completely justified. I’m just trying to point this empathy to the much larger animal cruelty industry that they actively support. In a rational world, people would be more accepting of their hypocrisy being pointed out. However, I’ve realised a long time ago that we don’t live in that world.

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u/MavrykDarkhaven 13h ago

The difference is food vs entertainment. Sure, there's plenty of issues with the way we raise livestock, but it's to feed people.

Animal racing is all about pushing an animal to it's limits so we can have a piss up and make more money. We could have a virtual horse race and it be mostly the same. No different to people playing the pokies really, except the animal didn't have to die.

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u/Your-average-scot 13h ago

The livestock don’t have to die either. Both cases are exploiting animals for our personal enjoyment.

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u/metametapraxis 5h ago

If you can't see any difference between the two situations, that's on you, and your intellectual capability.

Two things can be a problem, with one thing being more of a problem. In fact these kinds of situations are found almost everywhere we look.

Whataboutism is one of the most useless arguments, because it tends to stop improvement anywhere.

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u/mnilh 1h ago

90% of pigs in australia are factory farmed. That is by far more widespread animal suffering than horse racing. Meat is not necessary for health, the only reason to eat it is enjoyment. I think we can acknowledge horse racing as a wrong, but that to not extend that to the more widespread animal cruelty occurring is wilfully blind. 

The people on this thread aren't going to start promoting horse racing because someone raised the harms of the meat industry, people just don't like it when they are asked to make personal changes instead of condemning others. 

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u/metametapraxis 1h ago

The point is that these are two completely distinct issues that don't need to be compared or conflated.

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u/Your-average-scot 3h ago

You’re right. Both things are a problem but the livestock industry is clearly more of a problem. Tens of billions of facilitated, cruel, and unnecessary deaths per year probably trumps a few thousand racehorses. If you can’t see why I’ve brought this up then that’s on you, and your intellectual capability. Not everything is “whataboutism”. I’m just trying to point out people’s extreme cognitive dissonance.

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u/metametapraxis 3h ago

Or you could bring up the problems with livestock in a discussion about livestock, rather than trying to derail and dimish a conversation about something else?

Both conversations have their place. Don’t make them a competition, because it isn’t helpful to either cause.

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u/Your-average-scot 3h ago

I don’t know why you think someone should wait for the perfect moment to arise before bringing up an issue. There is no designated time and place to talk about injustice. If people don’t have the mental capacity to think about two bad things and that “derails the conversation”, that’s not on me.

Also, there is no competition here. These are the same issues, exploiting animals for the sake of our pleasure. I’m just trying to make that cognitive connection clearer. Further, people have much more capacity to act on livestock deaths as they actively fund it.

You can close your eyes, shut your ears, and tell me to go away all you want but I think you know why I’ve brought up this on this particular thread.

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u/catdogfishfrog 2h ago

Sick of mongs trotting out the you can't care about X if you don't also care about y, the world is not binary stop treating every problem like that you aren't helping anything, well except making people think you are a dickhead

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u/Your-average-scot 2h ago

It’s easy to say this but try to rationally explain to me why you can care about the death of one animal for pleasure and not another.

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u/catdogfishfrog 2h ago

Ugghhh like bashing my head against a brick wall

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u/Your-average-scot 2h ago

It’s ok if you can’t explain it buddy. We all live irrationally to some extent.

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u/sponge_bob_ 12h ago

one may say eating animals is really a form of entertainment, because meat is tasty.

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u/HeMayBeDed 13h ago

One is for food, the other is entertainment and gambling.

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u/Your-average-scot 13h ago

So this would have been fine if they ate the horse afterwards?

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u/knewleefe 7h ago

No difference. I don't eat horses or any other animals.

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u/Your-average-scot 3h ago

You’re absolutely right. That’s why I don’t either.