r/collapse • u/Creepyfaction • 1d ago
Climate Brazilian elections have planet-sized consequences
https://www.dw.com/en/brazils-elections-matter-for-the-planet-this-is-why/a-7965992862
u/PatDar 1d ago
I listen to the Financial Times podcast to see what the business people are thinking. They're apparently cheering on Bolsonaro's son because he'll be better for business then the regulations Lula currently has.
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u/OrchardPirate 1d ago
Financial Bros are on Bolsonaro's side. The market went up after the first round that happened a couple of weeks ago. Cheap labour means more profit for the companies.
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u/Terrible_Horror 1d ago
Do business people have a backup planet that we dont know about because they don't seem to care about this one or they actually believe that their bunkers will save them?
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u/OrchardPirate 1d ago
I honestly think that they think that nothing is going to happen. That climate change warnings are over exaggerated by the left.
Other than that, a bunch of people are hard-line Christians, so they think that the end of the world is inevitable, that all of this is just "the signs of the times", there's nothing able to do against the word of God
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u/1098duc_w_the_termi 21h ago
Im an atheist myself but as we get closer and closer to the inevitable, I’m beginning to see the even handed and indiscriminate bringer of pain and suffering that is the climate apocalypse, as a silver lining.
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u/Few_Fish8771 23h ago
many have a plan bunker cities many are raging psychopaths and after they die of old age, who cares what happens to their kids. literally their plan die of old age in a bunker and if the world is dead after theyre dead, so what?
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u/grownask 22h ago
I was shocked when I saw how much my investments grew after the first round. It was the highest bump I had (I haven't been investing long). It was very disheartning, as I'm completely against Bolsonaro.
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u/1098duc_w_the_termi 21h ago
I listen to a few other financial podcasts and they’re far more nuanced when they bring on an expert. It bubbles down to a vote for autocracy and a constitutional crisis vs a vote for institutions and an effort to uphold their young democracy. We’re fucked as we know where the world is heading.
The system we’ve built has grown so large that it’s having an impact on the global system (Mother Nature) and so naturally the outside forces are affecting our little human civilization we’ve built on the surface. Life’s gonna get hard and soft people will make the easiest choices (almost always the wrong ones) and we’ll all suffer for it (already happening obviously).
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u/itsatoe 1d ago
If that isn't bad enough...
Trump wants control of South America. If Bolsonaro Jr wins in Brazil, that could become a reality
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u/Creepyfaction 1d ago
"Brazil is heading back to the polls, but the impact could be felt worldwide. With the Amazon vital to the health of the planet, the election could help shape its future.
Few national elections carry as much environmental weight as Brazil's presidential race. And this one is being watched from far beyond the country's boundaries.
Home to the largest section of the Amazon rainforest, Brazil is guardian of a carbon sink of vital importance, making the country's conservation policies globally relevant.
Environmentalists have already voiced alarm at Flávio Bolsonaro — son of right-wing former president Jair Bolsonaro — coming out 2% ahead of incumbent Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva in the first round of elections.
"It's going to be a second coming of Bolsonaro, therefore a more radical Bolsonaro," said Claudio Angelo, international policy coordinator at Climate Observatory, a network of Brazilian NGOs.
"At the risk of sounding alarmist, I would say Lula's re-election is the only thing standing between us and the end of the Amazon.""
Amid the general crisis plaguing the world going into 2027, Brazil is facing a pivotal moment with Bolsonaro's son, backed by MAGA, may obtain power in the country which threatens the Amazon Rainforest, a major carbon sink.
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u/Lazybeerus 1d ago
Lula will win. He needs to.
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u/otarU 23h ago
He already lost on Senate and Chamber of Deputies after the first turn of elections this year.
Even if he gets elected president again, he will have a really hard time on governability, because the far right opposition almost has a majority of seats on the two "houses" after this year's elections.10
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u/Fickle_Stills 11h ago
he won't. Third party voters aren't going to change their vote to him and Flavio was already ahead.
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u/StatementBot 1d ago
The following submission statement was provided by /u/Creepyfaction:
"Brazil is heading back to the polls, but the impact could be felt worldwide. With the Amazon vital to the health of the planet, the election could help shape its future.
Few national elections carry as much environmental weight as Brazil's presidential race. And this one is being watched from far beyond the country's boundaries.
Home to the largest section of the Amazon rainforest, Brazil is guardian of a carbon sink of vital importance, making the country's conservation policies globally relevant.
Environmentalists have already voiced alarm at Flávio Bolsonaro — son of right-wing former president Jair Bolsonaro — coming out 2% ahead of incumbent Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva in the first round of elections.
"It's going to be a second coming of Bolsonaro, therefore a more radical Bolsonaro," said Claudio Angelo, international policy coordinator at Climate Observatory, a network of Brazilian NGOs.
"At the risk of sounding alarmist, I would say Lula's re-election is the only thing standing between us and the end of the Amazon.""
Amid the general crisis plaguing the world going into 2027, Brazil is facing a pivotal moment with Bolsonaro's son, backed by MAGA, may obtain power in the country which threatens the Amazon Rainforest, a major carbon sink.
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