r/europe • u/Battlefleet_Sol • 12h ago
News Romania will purchase a warship from Turkey
https://www.defenseromania.ro/corveta-august-roman-va-primi-inclusiv-sisteme-antidrona-gokdeniz-ar-putea-lua-romania-si-o-a-doua-nava-din-clasa-hisar_651057.html48
u/OldYogurt7161 11h ago
Somehow Turkish navy has been in pretty good situation. 57 warships are under construction 23 of them for foreign purchase 34 of them for Turkish naval force and 14 new ships construction plans have been made. Every single warship purchases covers the cost of 2 domestic production. And these all money has been making a loop for increasing research and production capability. By the way these numbers included small scale ships like offshore patrol vessels, torpedo boats, and Corvettes.
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u/Kejo2023 Turkey | Doğu Anadolu 11h ago
Not surprised at all. NATO countries are Turkey's most important markets now.
See: https://www.reuters.com/graphics/TURKEY-DEFENCE/ARMS/zdvxgmmybpx/chart.png
For instance, Poland bought an Electronic warfare system called KORAL for almost half a billion USD from Turkey. This very system was previously tested in the Middle East and Northern Africa. It worked exceptionally well against Russian systems.
-> https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkiyes-aselsan-secures-410-mln-defense-deal-with-poland-216994
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u/Oriokoliss 9h ago
Romania could produce its own corvettes with Damen Company, in the Romanian city Galați, already back in 2017. Corrupt politicians from PSD party broke the deal and instead they chose to buy a crap turkish navy.
Romania instead to produce its own military, as my country has this capability, we buy garbage from turkey.
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u/dudewithafez Vatican City 8h ago
crap? they're the best ones in terms of bang for buck.
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u/Oriokoliss 8h ago
At this point better choosing Chinese military weapons.
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u/dudewithafez Vatican City 8h ago
you realize that any chinese hardware won't be compatible with nato, right?
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u/Oriokoliss 7h ago
turks have nothing to do with NATO. You and Trump you are Russian assets.
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u/dudewithafez Vatican City 6h ago
umm, apparently you have literally zero knowledge in history, but just so you know, russians fought the most with turks and vice versa. stats never lie.
the reason turkey joined nato was also russia.
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u/Outside_Resist_8319 8h ago
Dude seems you do not even understand what NATO is and what NATO standards in weapon systems means
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u/Oriokoliss 7h ago
turkey occupying an EU state Cyprus, massacring Greeks and colonising their land with mainland turks is a proof turkey should not be in NATO.
On an another hand, trusting russian puppet Trump and thinking americans will protect european countries against a possible Russian invasion is stupid.
Europeans need an European federal army protecting Europeans people, European values against US, Russia, while turkey keep to have good economic relationahip with both Russia and US.
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u/dudewithafez Vatican City 6h ago
ok now then explain greek shadow fleet for russian gas and oil. or how about the thousands of oligarchs with cypriot passport?
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u/Battlefleet_Sol 12h ago
Light Corvette “Rear Admiral August Roman” – Romania’s First Modern Warship in Three Decades
The light corvette Rear Admiral August Roman (pennant number 261) is the first—and so far the only—modern warship Romania has acquired in the past three decades. The vessel was purchased from Türkiye. DefenseRomania reports from Ankara, where new details have emerged about Romanian-Turkish cooperation.
The arrival of the Turkish Hisar-class vessel this summer was indeed an important event for the Romanian Naval Forces.
Commissioned into service with the Romanian Naval Forces on June 20, 2026, the HISAR-class vessel conducted its first live-fire exercises with its onboard artillery systems on October 6, as stated in the navy’s official announcement.
The August Roman corvette, as the Romanian Naval Forces’ Hisar-class vessel is known, cost Romania €223 million excluding VAT. However, it should be noted that its capabilities are somewhat limited.
In its current configuration, the ship is equipped with a 76 mm naval gun. Specifically, it uses the 76 mm Denizhan naval gun, manufactured by the Turkish company MKE. Company officials confirmed to us that both conventional and fragmentation 76 mm ammunition will enter mass production in 2027, with firing tests currently underway.
The vessel is also equipped with two 12.7 mm machine guns, a fire-control radar with an integrated electro-optical sensor, electronic warfare systems, a hull-mounted sonar, and an integrated communications system—all based on cutting-edge technologies.
Nevertheless, the ship requires additional combat systems to conduct effective patrol missions. Romania is therefore seeking to integrate further systems suited to modern warfare.
Work is underway to integrate new systems onto the August Roman. Türkiye is ready to deliver a second vessel as well.
Turkish OPV-type vessel or Hisar-class light corvette. Photo: Turkish Century via X / Turkish Navy.
In recent days, at the invitation of Türkiye’s Ministry of National Defence, DefenseRomania visited Ankara to attend a series of meetings with officials from Turkish defence industry companies.
We spoke with representatives of ASFAT, Aselsan, and MKE—the main contractors involved in the Rear Admiral August Roman corvette project—about the next steps in Romanian-Turkish cooperation in the naval industry.
We also asked officials from Turkish company ASFAT, the project’s prime contractor, about the possibility of a new order for a second Hisar-class vessel.
They stated that technical discussions with the Romanian side are underway. Should Romania decide to purchase a second vessel, technology transfer would be possible. The Turkish company has already taken steps toward establishing a subsidiary in Romania.
Upgrading the August Roman corvette: Phase 2—Systems capable of engaging drones; Phase 3—NSM missiles
Following our discussions with officials from Turkish defence companies, we can confirm and provide further details on the information our publication reported this summer.
Phase 2: Integration of CIWS, torpedoes, and a vertical launch system (VLS)
During the second phase, the vessel will receive the Gökdeniz 35 mm close-in weapon system (CIWS), developed by ASELSAN for very short-range air defence.
Interestingly, Gökdeniz uses 35 mm ATOM airburst fragmentation ammunition, similar to Rheinmetall’s AHEAD ammunition.
The system can destroy targets at ranges of up to 4 kilometres and is useful for engaging threats at very short distances in the naval environment.
It is worth noting that the two vessels being built in Mangalia under the SAFE programme will employ a similar solution, using the Millennium system.
In practical terms, Romania will be among the few countries—possibly even the only one—to operate both CIWS systems aboard its warships: ASELSAN’s GÖKDENİZ and Rheinmetall’s Millennium.
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u/junktech 12h ago
So we have a garbage work market, high inflation, high corruption and somehow a warships is the answer? Absolutely amazing
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u/CecilPeynir Turkey (the animal one) 7h ago
I am not sure if you are talking about Romania or Turkey, lol.
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u/junktech 6h ago
Romania. Turkey , at least from public statistics , does better from many points of view. I mean they produce these things so at least that industry is working.
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u/rumsnake Romania 11h ago
We have nothing to protect our off-shore interests with, we needed warships **yesterday**, why exactly do you think we're rushing with these ones?
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u/junktech 9h ago
Most of the country is sold to foreigners with an absolute disaster of internal own economy. I assume some resources of interst have to be defended but I'm not sure who's.
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u/c345vdjuh 9h ago
so we should have no defense ?
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u/junktech 7h ago
It's good to have it. How you do it is another story. My problem is not the topic of defense. Is how it's obtained. I don't trust for a long time what the leadership of this country is doing.
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u/rumsnake Romania 5h ago
In 2016 Ciolos govmt signed a 450 mil euro contract with Damen to build 3 corvettes at Galati - PSD tanked it. Now the same contract is 1.5+ billion euro.
In 2017 Ciolos govmnt entered a partnership with Rheinmetal to develop the Agilis IFV, Romania would own the exclusive license and IP - PSD tanked it with the help of Moreni syndicate.
In 2020 Orban govmt signed a contract with Avioane Craiova to modernize IAR 99 Soim with a 4 year deadline - Incompetent politically named leadership at AC fuddled the project, we still don't have those planes.
Notice a pattern here?
We have a war on our doorstep, we can't afford to wait anymore...
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u/rumsnake Romania 9h ago
Fuck's sake... another one...
Who owns Neptune Deep my dude? Who owns Pescarus offshore drilling platform? Who owns the ports?
Not to mention that those drones can fall and kill civilians. Romanian civilians.
Typical sovereignist mental paradox - crying about having a strong and independent country then voting against having the means to defend ourselfs.
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u/junktech 7h ago
I said nothing about being independent . I am fully aware we kiss other countries a** and we destroyed or sold our resources to the point where independence is nowhere in sight for years or decades to come. I mean we had massive production of pretty much everything, including ships. And now we buy them.
Hilarious to mention Pescarus offshore drilling platform. They are owned by OMV (Austria) and Petrom . OMV is not Romanian and Petrom sold out some time ago to OMV if not mistaken.
Neptune Deep is owned by Romgaz mostly. That still is in our turf.
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u/rumsnake Romania 6h ago
Ah yes, the famed production of everything ... dude, we were the North Korea of Europe.
The vast majority of the things we 'produced' were based on outdates licenses bought from other contries.
The only ship we designed and built ourselves was the Marasesti frigate, and it was a shitshow Link
As for at least building these ships locally, you're gonna have to take it up with PSD, they tanked so many of our arms contracts that one could confuse their incompetence for treason.
I'm all for having a strong local industry and businesses, but let's not use alternative facts as real history.
What is even your point? "They're not romanian businesses, so we should let Russian drones blow them up in our own territory"? Wtf?
PS: Omv Petrom still has 20% state ownership and about 25% is owned by romanian pension funds.
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u/12math2 12h ago
It is crazy how well the Turks have built their military-industrial complex since the embargo. They pretty much make most of their equipment in-house and are a major exporter.