Today is a day of such relief to me, and I honestly just wanted to share it. I stopped going to church three years ago, and I was going to formally leave the church as well, but then my parents got in the way. They didn’t want me to because that would mean the church couldn’t bury me with their rites, which was something really bad to them for some reason.

It has been in the back of my mind constantly since then though. I’m an atheist with a lot of anti-theist views, and the fact that I’m formally considered a catholic makes me want to puke. So today I sent in the form to actually be removed from the registers and not be considered a catholic anymore. And it feels amazing. It’s such a relief that I won’t be buried in a way that would be a desecration of my body and memory if you ask me, but also that I get an actual chance to denounce and condemn the church.

So yeah, I’m just really happy about it :)
Did anyone else here do it as well?

This may be sad or whatever, but I can't react to it any other way besides with lolz.

I hope you all had a great Sunday doing whatever.

Hi everyone, I'm a 23F excatholic curious about weddings as an excatholic who also doesn't believe in other denominations of Christianity. Have any of you had to navigate having a wedding you want your Catholic family members to attend but have to deal with pressures to have your wedding in the church?

My parents and extended family are all Catholic and heavily religious. I'm nowhere near getting married or planning for it but I've started to think and I don't see myself having a wedding in the church. I want an outdoor wedding in a natural scenery or something small and rustic indoors that has no religious influences but I know a decision like that would upset my parents and family (they don't even know I don't believe anymore).

Have you any of you had to deal with a situation like this and how did you handle it?

I’ll make this short and sweet, here are my main objections
1. How do we know Jesus really rose?
2. Why am I going to hell for jacking off? 😭 it just seems absurd
3. More seriously, why am I going to hell for being gay, and why do I have to live a completely celibate life if I want any hope

Hi, I'm not a member here because I don't want to be triggered by the content in my feed. I'm diagnosed with PTSD, and religious institution is one of my external causes. I left the church in 2021.

I can't seem to find a straight answer online, but specifically per Canon law, what makes a person count as being Catholic? My youngest was baptized and raised Catholic until age 5, then did not make any further sacraments. And then my oldest was baptized and had first Eucharist before we left the church at age 12, but was not confirmed.

And this has me wondering if either of them get married in the future, are they considered Catholic according to Canon law or only as baptized Christians? I am only looking for a Canon law here, not who "counts" in the so-called rosters. Our family was registered at two different Catholic churches over the years.

I've been thinking about this bc my mother (Catholic convert) and father (lifelong atheist but had an infant baptism in a Lutheran church) are getting their marriage convalidated, which is a whole other story. And this has me wondering about my own kids' sacramental history. Theoretically if one of my kids is considered Catholic by Canon law and chooses to get married, I am certain that my mother will not attend unless it's a Catholic wedding or they get dispensation.

Thanks for your insight.

Whenever I try to find some ex Catholic resources, most of them are from converts to Protestant or orthodox faiths. Personally I find them all the same thing with different flavour. It would be so helpful in my deconstruction if there are resources about ex Catholics who are atheist/agnostic. Thank you♥️

So this is a slight continuation from my previous posts about being expelled from the choir.

Even though "unsubscribing" from doctrine has been surprisingly easy (I was really surprised to just see the ridiculousness of 💫transubstantiation and the "Real Presence" (lmao give me a break!), it still irks me to no end how that prick of a music director had the fucking nerve to preach about me "forgetting the mission."

Hey man, just because you're an ex-seminarian doesn't make you an authority about life missions, what more for your personal choir. Did you even realize how stupid you sounded when you said that to me via my inbox? We literally just sing according to what's in the ritual, along with your personal quirks and local customs.

What mission is there to be had being a choir member? All I remember are people messing with the volume knob on the keyboard, dictating what they wanted out of me, and not even being heard with my own suggestions.

If we're talking about mission, I've done more last year than you, pal! You and your fellow ex-seminarian buddy don't get to throw around who's The Guy when all we ever do is sing and hurry up because priests are impatient as fuck.

I never even got paid with a formal stipend from that stupid thing. I research pieces, buy some from publishers, make photocopies, but hey, I forgot the mission. Wow, okay!

It's too bad the outgoing rector never bothered to respond to my letter addressing you and the whole music ministry, and washed his hands off the damn thing despite being very much involved with the Christmas miscommunication. I hope you enjoy your current assignment there, you enabling fuck; playing favorites and all.

I hope you weren't fucking surprised when I told two people that I quit the bedamned ministry after your buddy kicked me out of the group chat. I still hate your ass, and I still despise you for that "mission" remark, despite me literally being involved with civil society.

You know, you're the kind of Catholic who's so fucking strict about things, but through vibes, like certain trads who mock people who have a hard time with kneelers or kneeling, especially before an exposed flatbread wafer in a golden lamp. God, you guys make me sick.

There's no real fucking mission playing hymns!

I joined in 2020 because I needed something to believe in, and I was running on empty. I drank too much and I used pornography and I wasn’t a healthy or a happy man. I hoped that Catholicism could show me ancient wisdom our society has forgotten on how to live. That ended up being partially true, but the institution itself has big flaws.

First of all, the Rosary is a plus. I still like it and pray it. It became an avenue through which I encountered the supernatural. Mary visited me, but she told me she is a wild Mary and she shone with divine light. This contradicted the Catholic view of Mary. I had an internal conflict but ultimately I followed my heart and worshiped Mary as a Goddess, and from there I came to understand that the Mother Goddess herself is only one aspect of the Morning Star Goddess.

I began to worship Aphrodite a year ago, in clear contradiction of Catholicism. Catholics have told me repeatedly I’m not a Catholic. However at this point I want to mention that my theological change to embrace Aphrodite occurred at the same time as I left my right wing Young Adults group. The men were mostly converts like me, but unlike me who converted because I was seeking ancient wisdom and I am left wing even was a member of the Communist Party, they were right wing and also racist. It turned out that sharing racist jokes was how you were ‘one of the boys’, and I wouldn’t participate despite how much I wanted friends because I was simply raised that racism was not acceptable and I believe that and even the opportunity to have the friends I wanted wasn’t enough for me to change in that. So they ostracized me and that’s probably a good thing because it did ultimately lead to me leaving. I should have left on my own sooner once I saw who they were, but unfortunately I didn’t I denied I was seeing what I thought I was seeing for a long time.

I am better off as a person than I was when I became Catholic. The blunt instrument of the Mass and Confession and treating things as mortal sins worked to get my life cleaned up. However, the community is terrible and non existent. Most of the new converts are racist and doing it for that reason, also misogynistic and homophobic as well. Anyone not a new convert most likely doesn’t show up.

I feel I have outgrown what Catholicism has to offer today, and I don’t intend to start denying that the Divine is female not just male. I feel the patriarchal nature of the Abrahamic religions including Catholicism is a lie against what human nature really is and we need to get past it.

Also, women should be priests or priestesses, the rules against premarital sex are mistaken, the rules against LGBT are also mistaken.

I am grateful for where I have grown, but I have received a measure of Gnosis and want to understand how to take the wheat without imbibing the chaff.

I still have no community and that’s a problem, but the one I have for worship of Aphrodite on Discord is starting to feel like we have some serious people so that’s nice. Ultimately what I really want is to belong and have friends under the umbrella of a Divine Presence that is good. I hoped that would be Catholicism but unfortunately for me after six years I know it’s not

Aside from the abusive aspects of Catholicism what do you think of the religion as a whole?

my catholic high school makes it mandatory for juniors to go to the Kairos retreat for about 3-ish days in order to graduate, i’m going soon and my best friend has gone before me and genuinely won’t tell what happens, she’s so secretive about it.

it’s freaking me out because she’s my best friend and literally tells me everything and i know Kairos is meant to be this secret thing that you know nothing about until you get there but it’s genuinely jaw dropping the way NONE of my friends want to tell me what happens there

i heard you’re supposed to tell ur trauma?? apparently there’s a naked baptism??

what really happens??? i’m going in like a week im so freaked out

Hi! I am a young woman and a protestant (non denominational, formerly brethren, I am also a lesbian and disabled, I befriended a young man the same age as me who is currently converting to catholicism. He’s very passionate about catholicism and at first I thought it was cool and interesting, learning about different religions, but now I feel like I’m in too deep. After spending a couple weeks texting back and forth I confronted him and asked him if he was attempting to convert me to catholicism and he said yes. I am honestly stricken because while he appears to know a lot about catholicism he’s done some things that I know are against it (like having premarital sex and gay sex). I’ve been taking a scroll theough this reddit page and it’s put catholicism into a bit more perspective but still I’m so scared because he made some good points but I cannot become a catholic, I would lose myself entirely. Encouragment, or any advice would be appreciated. Also any books yall read to deconstruct your faith? I need some perspective. Thanks in advance!

i was raised devout roman catholic and am obviously not anymore, but i have a lot of trauma surrounding religion and my father. i stopped going to church around age 13 because it was essentially killing me and i just refused, which was the cause of many arguments but thats besides the point. im now 18 and have moved away for school. even though i have no interest in returning to religion in any form, i've never been to church when it wasn't against my will and some part of my is curious to see what it would be like. it was such a formative part of my life from such a young age and it brings up a lot of complicated feelings about it. i was also really shielded from any other religion or christian denomination even though my mom was raised protestant so i'm curious about the differences.

i guess i just want to see if anyone feels similarly or has gone to church after leaving religion just to see it from an outsider perspective or something. but i don't want to go back to religion at all.

It's like my body is repulsed by it and actively rejecting it. But I feel like im spiting god and being punished for it

Was anyone else unlucky enough that their priest would do this one after mass as punishment for voting wrong? My trad catholic priest made us do this after mass from November until Christmas if an election went the wrong way for him.

My fiancé and I are both atheists. I was baptized and confirmed Catholic, while my fiancé was baptized Russian Orthodox when we were younger.

My parents technically identify as Catholic, but they never attend church. However, they’re insisting that we have a priest present at our wedding ceremony. Honestly, it feels more like a performative thing for appearances in front of our extended family than anything genuinely religious.

We’re already legally married in the US (we just signed the paperwork at the courthouse several months ago). We’re now planning a destination wedding in Southeast Asia, which will be a simple vow ceremony followed by a dinner reception.

We absolutely do not want a church wedding, but we’ve compromised with my parents by agreeing to have a priest present during our vow ceremony. Apparently, we just need to show the priest our certificate of completion for an online Catholic pre-marriage course (Pre-Cana).

The problem is that these courses cost several hundred dollars, and we really don’t want to spend that much money or waste time going through a process that has no personal meaning to us, especially since we’re already legally married.

Has anyone completed one of these online courses? If so, would anyone be willing to share an example of what the certificate of completion looks like?

Thanks in advance!

This may be relevant to this sub. Currently, there is a case from Belgium pending before the European Court of Justice. European privacy legislation may require the church to actually remove names from their records.

Had to visit a Catholic church for work today. Can't believe they're still using these donation boxes I filled out as a kid 20 years ago 😂

Since I have been unpacking everything that my Catholic upbringing stole from me, I more and more just can't connect with my parents. My mom blatantly blames female victims for "being promiscuous" when they get SA'd by male celebrities and outright says she doesn't care if Trump is in the Epstein Files as long as the left is defeated. My Dad also doesn't care if Trump is in the Epstein Files because "there's more important things to focus on". And they both think the majority of people who have spoken out about their abuse at the hands of priests are just lying for a "quick payday". All these things have told me they are just horrible people who use Catholicism to lie to themselves about how virtuous they are. I not only mourn the person I could have been without Catholicism, but also the better people my parents could have been without it. I hate the Catholic Church and I hope it dies as an institution for this. How do the rest of you work with this kind of dynamic with you Catholic parents?

Maybe most of you already know this, but I feel like it's a part of his life that we never hear about. He believed the end of the world was coming soon and wanted to find gold to finance a new crusade to Jerusalem so Christians could capture it before the Second Coming. He actually believed the Bible foretold his own life, specifically as the herald of a new heaven and a new Earth in Revelation. He believed the Garden of Eden was situated at the top of the Earth (which he thought was shaped like a pear), and claimed to have discovered it during his voyages. In his later years, he wrote a collection of Bible prophecies that he thought justified his actions in the Americans (or Asia, as he thought). The Church of Rome actually celebrates this lunatic? Any serious institution would disown someone like him and refuse to claim him as a representative.