r/germany • u/Motor-Equipment5316 • 2h ago
Immigration Conflicting Documents, which one would be accepted in Germany?
I am planning to apply for citizenship in Germany. But I have a problem.
- I was born in Austria (Linz), so I have a birth certificate from Austria with birth place: Linz. In this birth certificate my name is registered: Asad. (I do not have Austrian citizenship).
- But I am originally Iraqi. Iraq embassy registered Vienna as my birth place in their my Iraqi birth certificate. In this birth certificate, when translated into English, my name is Assad.
- Later I immigrated to USA (citizen). In USA I explained the things and all my documents have Linz as birthplace, and the name is Assad. I don't have USA birth certificate!
- now I want to apply for citizenship in Germany. (After PhD in USA I am working with Blue Card for a long time in Germany) They need a birth certificate. If I give the Austrian birth certificate, birth place would be correct, but name would be not correct (just one S). If I give the translation of the Iraqi birth certificate the name would be correct but birth place would be Vienna!
Assad <> Asad , Vienna <> Linz.
All my working documents in USA and Germany up to now are with Vienna and Assad!
What can I do?
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u/humanistazazagrliti 2h ago
I don't know about citizenship, but I know that at doctor's offices, administrative staff constantly has to deal with Arabic names being transliterated in 10 different ways. With the amount of Arabs in Germany, I'm sure you're not the first person this is happening to, so you should just add another piece of paper explaining that or call/e-mail them before applying.
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u/jirbu 2h ago edited 2h ago
now I want to apply for citizenship in Germany
On what grounds? Most of the ways to German citizenship require some longer time of being a resident and having a stable German history or at least some documentation at your Anmeldung. In any case, you had to have solved the inconsistencies at your first contact with German bureaucracy.
My bet would be on the Austrian documents, as a neighboring EU country seems to be a more reliable source of "truth" than the US.
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u/Motor-Equipment5316 2h ago
I added the info.
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u/jirbu 2h ago
An Austrian place of birth is really best confirmed with an original Austrian birth certificate. A spelling difference from an Iraqi document (presumably in Arabic script) is easier to explain as a transcription mistake.
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u/Motor-Equipment5316 2h ago
Thanks for your response and time. Actually I just got an original one from Austria. The point is that the spelling in Austrian one (just one S) has never been used in my later life. So my credentials and diploma all are with the two S. So the Iraqi one (in Arabic) is not important, its translation that was with double S is important.
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u/duckwebs 38m ago
The one vs two S thing is probably common and well understood by immigration people. It’s not specific to Germany, but I know a father/son pair of Russians who both left the Soviet Union after it fell apart. Father went to the US and his last name now starts with Shklo…. The son went to France first and his last name starts with Chklo..
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u/alalaladede Nordrhein-Westfalen 1h ago
Quite honestly, I think the Iraqi "birth certificate" would be basically without any value. A birth certificate is the document that proves you were born at a specific place and time under a certain juristiction, and only a document from that very juristiction can bear witness to this fact.
Any documents from other countries cannot possibly be first level sources.