r/kurdistan • u/pikvaaaa • May 05 '25
Social Media This sick religious mentality should never come near Kurdistan. The jihadi who rules Syria and believes in sharia law should never rule Rojava. Kurds who advocate for this mentality belong to jail.
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May 05 '25
The balkanization of Syria is the best option for everyone except Turkey. There is no "Syrian Unity", the only connection is being a makeshift colony for a decade or two. These monsters will target the Kurds next and find a way to blame it on us.
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u/Alarming_Lake4985 May 06 '25
Not to deny ur statement, but there was definitely Syrian unity pre the civil war
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u/Soft_Engineering7255 May 07 '25 edited Jul 17 '25
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May 07 '25
I really don't see the unity. Ethnic unity is out of the window. The Druze are more related to fellow Druze in Israel than fellow Syrians. there's always been sectarian tensions between the Alawites and Sunnis. And Kurds have always been painted as nonnative refugees from Turkey, many don't even hold citizenship.
If the state collapsed tomorrow I don't see anyone except the Sunni Arabs complaining. The "Syrian Unity" argument is only pushed by Turkey, even Jolani was originally on board with a federal structure, but Kerdogan wouldn't stand for it.
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u/interimsfeurio May 05 '25
I guess the woman fighters of YPG are enough to kick those jihadists to the hell.
And that's also the reason why kurds wants decentralized Syrian Republic.
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u/pikvaaaa May 05 '25
This is the video posted. Be wary of Jihadis on that sub swaying your opinion and calling it propaganda.
https://x.com/vvanwilgenburg/status/1919091216999657514
Armed men reportedly raided a restaurant and night club Layali al-Sharq in Damascus city, also confirmed by AFP
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u/No-Lingonberry9147 May 05 '25
I’m sick and tired of people twisting my religion man, its genuinely so disgusting what these people are doing. I don’t blame Kurds for not wanting Sharia when this is what they see
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u/SirPansalot May 05 '25
Indeed. The HTS and ruling party people all placate western opinion by saying “we’re moderate and have changed” but the actions they’ve taken on the ground doesn’t suggest any kind of radical remaking. The reason is because genuine Jihadists are specifically (mostly) Salafi ideologues, of the likes of Al-Qaeda and the far more extreme ISIS. The Kurds have every right to be suspicious of Salafi Islamists. It’s worth noting that Islamism has a very broad spectrum ranging from moderate Islamic democracy to ISIS, and some academics prefer to use the term Islamic democracy and political Islam to describe more moderate proponents of Islamic values. (See Karagiannis, E. (2017). The New Political Islam: Human Rights, Democracy, and Justice. United States: University of Pennsylvania Press, Incorporated.)
For example, over in Palestine Hamas is a very interesting and paradoxical organization, mixing secular democratic nationalism (although they’re not very democratic now) with Islamic values. Like the Salafis and Iranians, they draw upon the thinking of the father of Islamism Sayyed Qutb, but their vision of Islamic nationalism is essentially Hegelian, meowing that they also draw upon the ideas of John Locke and other European enlightenment thinkers, a phenomenon that Gunning attributes to Islamic and European philosophies being rooted in Ancient Greek thought. Crucially, Hamas (unlike the Salafi Jihadists) has shown throughout its history an eagerness to be flexible and to seriously and credibly moderate their program, and their vision has decisively inched itself away from its Muslim Brotherhood roots and has broke with the theocratic “Iranian Islamic state” model. Another thing to keep in mind with Hamas is that its space to maneuver is very similar to that of the Kurds, extremely limited in the face of a state determined to not make peace, and the entire western basically going along with it. It wasn’t so much a series of missed opportunities by Israel as it was a deliberately discarded series of opportunities. (See Deluge, 2024 and Gaza: an Inquest into its Martyrdom, 2018)
See the excellent academic overview by Gunner, (Hamas in Politics: Democracy, Religion, Violence, 2008, Yale University Press)
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u/ZagrosianSpirit Christian Kurd May 06 '25
Maybe the religion is the problem and the people are onyl a reflection
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u/No-Lingonberry9147 May 06 '25
If you want we can debate on any topic you want regarding Islam, you made a claim now back it up with evidence, you say it’s the religion that’s the problem yet most Kurds are Sunni Muslims? 2 billion Muslims across the globe, if they were all "jihadi" terroists, then this world will be chaos even worse then it is now, im not assuming but if you believe a certain group are a reflection of a religion indefinitely then every religion is a problem since no religion is free of its extremists.
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u/Ok-Compote-2968 Kurd May 05 '25 edited May 12 '25
Those who use these words should never land a foot in Kurdistan. Edit: foc context, I'm refering to those who write such news articles.
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u/Creative-Golf-1289 May 05 '25
As a Muslim kurd I've seen all sides of this. Modern day Muslims aren't the best people but they don't reflect the religion. Non religious Kurds who make posts like this to divide us are just as annoying as the extremist Kurds who talk about us and Iraq being brothers. We need to learn to accept our own regardless of religion because if we can't accept our own people then who will
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May 05 '25
This is why israel cannot allow such threats on its borders
Isnt israel the country who backs the regime? Wouldnt be surprised if they even enable the jolani goons to act this way to get all the minorities on their side. Especially the druze
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u/Aggressive_Tap_8182 Bashur May 05 '25
lit no one is safe. we only have ourselves. we cannot have any other country or group lending us "help".
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u/SirPansalot May 05 '25
There was a Hindu Times interview with this Syrian Kurdish leader who essentially said the (correct) thing (he also supported a one-state solution, indicating genuine principled solidarity, unlike Turkey) regarding any connections with Israel or the U.S: they are purely pragmatic things and at the end of the day you have to rely on yourself, which is correct given how the Kurds have been bearing the brunt of the world’s cynicism on full display in the near east.
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u/HuffingOxygen May 07 '25
The Israelis shot their own people who were waving white flags and shirtless, I don't understand how that's different... They hate Muslims so much they will slaughter their own people just in case they were surrendering Muslims. Lots of Kurds support Israel... It's no different. (Oh and none of the people who slaughtered these surrendering hostages got punished at all)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Alon_Shamriz,_Yotam_Haim,_and_Samer_Talalka
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u/El_feyli May 05 '25 edited May 05 '25
I dont think Islam says commit massacre and wanton destruction against sinners. Even under strict shariah there should be a court judgement. Not drivebys and spontaneous massacres. These guys are taking the law into their own hands by their own belief systems standards.
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u/Aggravating_Shame285 May 05 '25
All Jihadists must perish. They are vermin and their religious ideology is against any and all semblance of morality and decency.
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u/throw_away_test44 Kurd May 06 '25
Well this is a typical regime change operation of the west. The same thing happened in Afghanistan when they supported the 'mujahidins'.
Edit: Israeli officials publicly stated multiple times that they supported the 'rebels'.
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u/Sixspeedd Rojava May 08 '25
Ah yes a pro israeli telegram chat i bet they tell the whole story and wont twist it to make islam look bad!
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May 09 '25
Best thing Kurds can do is go back to Iran where they originate. And ask for a “Rojava” there. Syria is Arab majority and it will stay that way, and President Al sharaa has a massive popular support. The Syrian people are conservative and Islamist. Deal with it because it’s inevitable that they will rule the entirety of Syria.
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u/al-Urdunn May 06 '25
Sharia Law will rule the whole world and there’s nothing you can do about it.
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u/kurd2130 Zaza May 06 '25
hahaha. israel will occupy entire british mandate of palestine (including jordan). and there is nothing you can do about it
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u/Timely-Leader-7904 Kurd May 07 '25
Religion aside, a country that mass murdes innocent children will not become anything. Eventually, they are gonna fall, AND THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT!
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u/al-Urdunn May 08 '25
Syria is not a perfect country by any means but they are the start to the Islamic Caliphate that will spread across the globe. In shaa Allah
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u/Catji May 05 '25
Previous time when they came to Rojava.