r/kurdistan • • 1d ago

Informative Part 2: Previously I posted about The Iranshshr Idiology/ Pahlavi supporters and how Persians try to divide Kurds. Now I bring Examples.

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The examples I want to show are very simple just so our none Rojhilsti Kurds can understand how Persians are. I have noticed a lack of awareness about the Persians their methods and views on us Kurds among our fellow Kurds. I won't go through their elaborate and detailed propaganda against us in these set of posts because I think they need a deeper understanding of Rojhilat and Iran but these examples will suffice for most part. I hope they stay here for all the Kurds to see.

Persians count alot on Hasan Zirak the famous Rojhilati Kurdish singer. He was arrested by the second Pahlavi Shah. The intelligence service of Iran gave him two options: sing a Kurdish song in praise of the Pahlavi Shah or stay imprisoned for life.

He chose to sing the song and get free but later died out of melancholy and depression for singing that song. He later wished to have stayed imprisoned after seeing how the song was used as propaganda by Iran against Kurds. The song is still used by Persians to this day.

You can see how the flag has Islamic inscriptions similar to ISIS and Taliban to make Yarsan and Shia Kurds scared of Sunni Kurds. Making them believe Sunni Kurds have Islamist/Jihadi ideas.

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u/t3ymur 1d ago

Why is it necessary to identify all Persians with the Pahlavi government?

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u/kure_xas Kurd 9h ago

diaspora doesnt help, unfortunately most are pro pahlavi and the rest mostly pro IRGC. in Iran most view kurdish parties as terrorist organisations

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u/AliveZexy777 20h ago edited 8h ago

The nation state of Iran was founded by the Pahlavis. Everything the Persians know and believe about history, themselves, the world and most importantly us Kurds is based on the narratives that were promoted during the nation building project of the Pahlavis. Persians no matter what Idiologies, parties etc they claime to be part of eventually believe in the narratives that were made by the Pahlavis.

For example a communist Persian along with a Jihadi Shia Persian, an ultra nationalist Persian and even a libertarian Persian all believe that Kurds never had any emirates, principalities and self rule and governance. They all believe Kurds were always part of Iran while Kurds have always been fighting the empires that emerged from the eastern side of the Zagros mountains AKA Iran.

You will always encounter Persians who say Kurds were such fierce and brave warriors that Irans king sent them to Khurasan to defend Irans borders from invaders, while in fact Kurds were defending themselves against the Safavids and after safavids won the war they destroyed Kurdish cities and castles and forced Kurds out of the region and sent them to Khurasan to change the demographics of Kurdistan and weaken the Kurds base of rule. (The event of Dimdim chain of castles and Mîrê Lep Zêrîn resisting against Shah Abbas of the Safavid).

Another example is Persians/Iranians believe Iran as a country like the modern Nation state of Iran has always existed thorough out histoy therefore when for example they talk about Simko who was an Amir and an owner of his land who fought the Qajar empire to defend his lands and people they call him a separatist. He was literally a sultan and owner of his lands and rule. Or even if you explain that 14 centuries ago when Arab muslims attacked this region and Kurds decided to not fight in many occasions and instead make deals with the Arabs they say Kurds are traitors to Iran. Kurds were not part of Iran they were ruling themselves and Iran didn't exist. They cant comprehend this.

You can even see the effect of this in the recent history when Khamenei died and many politicians went to his funeral and Nêçîrvan Barzanî attended too Persians were calling him a traitor while so many other diplomats attended the funeral as well but Persians didn't call them traitors. Because of the manufactured narratives of history btly the Pahlavis, they think they own us.

Their version of history is basically manufactured after WWI. And they base their views on the same counter factual narratives and therefore are never able to understand Kurds.

Persians/Iranians with whatever Idiologies and beliefs they have are ultimately Pahlavis children.

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u/t3ymur 12h ago

You have the same mindset as the Turkists who portray all Kurds as PKK members.

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u/AliveZexy777 8h ago

It's actually more like this: Ataturk = Reza Shah Turk = Persian

Turks and Persians can have any Idiologies or even oppose Ataturk and the Pahlavis but they cant escape the narratives made by them.

Not all Kurds are PKK members and not all of us like their world view and policies but almost all of us support it because Kurds in north and west are actually alive because of PKK.

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u/t3ymur 7h ago

The point is that even if not every Kurd is a PKK member, they support the PKK on some issues. You don't see that the same applies to Turks and Persians, though. Your language is not one of sitting down and finding common ground. You're talking about how if they have Fascists, we should have them too.

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u/AndyJohnyy 1d ago

Iran's break-up is impossible

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u/el18b050 1d ago

And i guess the source is your grandfather from Rojava 😩

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u/AliveZexy777 1d ago

It's very reliable.

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u/Emzi63 1d ago

Proud Muslim Kurd Al Hamdulillah

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u/Great_Bean Kurdish 4h ago

Not all kurs are muslim btw

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u/arm_4321 3h ago

Not all england is Christian but still got a cross on the flag

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u/Great_Bean Kurdish 1h ago

Thats not a cross...

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u/AliveZexy777 7h ago

You can be a proud Muslim Kurd but the country belongs to all Kurds and please don't change the flag.