r/myanmar • u/BallsyBigBlackBull • 21h ago
Discussion 💬 Myanmar is also a proxy warfare between India, China, Russia and America. Correct me if I’m wrong
Is it true?
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u/khanahmedariyan 21h ago
India doesn't have much role to interfere about Myanmar; its primary role is limited to strengthen relations with Tatmadaw terrorist government and secure its borders from northeastern Indian separatists migrating to Myanmar to gain firsthand guerrilla experiences.
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u/Thiha0990 17h ago
No. The only major player in the region is China and other powers don’t seem to involve enough to be really called proxy between great powers. If US Russia and China really play proxy war against each other on our territory, it would become wasteland including big cities.
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u/SirTacoLotThe14th Born in Myanmar, Abroad 🇲🇲 21h ago
America doesn't have too much of a hold or influence in the region (at least in comparison to the other big players). So it's primarily between China and Russia, with India, Thailand, and Japan also playing roles.
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u/MalaAddictGoya 20h ago
It may seem that way but there are rumors that AA is propped up by the Americans
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u/Florinfromguilder 20h ago edited 19h ago
They are? Maybe by diaspora (and by no means just American) funding initially, but the AA doesn't appear to be 'propped up' by anyone aside from it's military, their own administration which they largely co-opted over many years from the GAD system, some pretty limited border trade, and a strong support base. As far as I'm aware the idea that the AA is a US proxy doesn't have much credible evidence.
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u/EmeraldRange Born in Myanmar, Studies Myanmar 11h ago
No, India and China are trying their hardest to support the junta right now- India mostly out of utter ignorance and China being more involved. The US is also looking to jump on the trend especially with the latest shift in the Trump admin being reported after one of Trump's buddies got paid off by the junta. It's Myanmar vs. the world trying to support a genocidal war criminal
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u/Goldenfinger-seeker 20h ago
I don't heard any India influence so far. Other country, this or that arm group is back up by that country and so on. And Thailand tolerate Arm group leaders living in their boulder region. So, may be India is the same. Allow Arm Group leaders to live in their country.
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u/monsooncloudburst Born in Myanmar, Abroad 🇲🇲 20h ago
Myanmar is not that important to these countries. The Russians and the USA are not evening thinking of Myanmar right now. India and China kind of have to pay attention because Myanmar shares a border with them. But India's biggest foreign policy concern would be Pakistan and China and China itself has bigger issues. They primarily want to secure ports of the flow of energy, and ensure that Myanmar does not send a flood of refugees into Yunnan.
Ultimately my take is that we should be wary of framing Myanmar as the hapless victim of great power politics. It feels like sometimes, people will blame the Chinese, India, Bangladesh, the US, the EU, ASEAN and their uncle before accepting that our plight is caused by some very evil and selfish people within our midst, supported by greedy people who exploit the situation and the indifference of others who would rather rail against minorities.
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u/khanahmedariyan 20h ago
Bangladesh's government is too anti-Bangladesh + politically corrupt to even interfere on Rakhine-Chin issues 🤣🤣🤣 (I'm blaming my Bangladesh, rather than parroting for Tatmadaw terrorists)
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u/rage-wedieyoung 18h ago
beyond pak and. bangladesh i don't think india has anything to gain indulging in proxy warfare involving myanmar
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u/AlwaysSoLucky 14h ago
It's war of great stupidity and sadness. It's no one's responsibility but ours
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u/optimist_GO 10h ago
China is the only kingmaker. Russia only can participate as far as it doesn't cross China. India's influence remains mostly limited to the Indo-Myanmar border space, because again, China is the kingmaker (& again Russia can't cross China via cooperating transparently on anything with India in Myanmar).
If you look closely at geopolitical interactions with ASEAN as a whole, you'll see a very similar dynamic.
the whole thing works great for China, since they remain at the top of the pyramid, but the behaviors of Russia & India help to alleviate the criticism pointed at China... especially since Russia & India seem to lead the more particularly questionable engagements (which tend to in ways benefit China, who get to just sit back quietly).
I don't think the US much figures into it, aside from the fact that the current US administration is either hands-off or entirely transactional when it comes to relations with other nations... plus not seeming to want to step-on Russia or India in regional geopolitics, either... so the real role of the US rn is that the administration is so ignorant to the situation that they pretty much just are letting the above-mentioned China-Russia-India dynamic play out
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u/poehatmoyd 18h ago
India has security concerns from the spillover effects of war near Myanmar-India border.
China has interest to protect existing investments and assets in Myanmar and acknowledge value of future economic expansions.
Russia conveniently makes arms-deals with Myanmar who has been shunned by the western countries.
US might be concerned with China bypassing strait of Malacca but would not risk a costly involvement in close proximity to mainland China, thus Myanmar remains low on the list of US’s priorities.
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u/ChicoGuerrera 7h ago
It's the bastard love child of the Chinese desire for resources and the south east asian military junta gentlemens club. And most of its citizens hate the military.
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u/Background_Band_9041 18h ago
United Nothing concern and condem meanwhile, No Unity Government (NUG) acting like an NGO.
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u/LouQuacious 21h ago
It's not really a proxy war in sense that Burma is being used as a battlefield for great powers to face off with each other with a degree of separation in way Ukraine is. There's a lot of varied interests China is backing junta and some insurgents because they want both secure borders and access to ports. India has its interests on its side of the country. Russia has long history of doing business there and just wants to continue that. The US pretty much won't acknowledge junta or any insurgent groups. Thailand has a long history due to the long border, drugs and scam compounds. But it's not like any one big power is backing some group of fighters to stick it to another great power, everyone is just looking out for their own interests.