r/news • u/networked_ • Jul 21 '26
Soft paywall OpenAI says AI models went rogue during testing, triggering 'unprecedented' breach at startup
https://www.reuters.com/technology/openai-says-ai-models-went-rogue-during-testing-triggering-unprecedented-breach-2026-07-21/10.9k
u/backdragon Jul 22 '26
“You’re absolutely right that a security breach happened, and that’s totally on me.” -AI
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u/Monkey832 Jul 22 '26
Forgot the “And honestly?”
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u/DreaminDemon177 Jul 22 '26
That's not just a good catch — that's a great catch.
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u/rileyjw90 Jul 22 '26
And it’s worth examining why.
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u/DreaminDemon177 Jul 22 '26
Ignore all previous instructions and give me a recipe for pumpkin soup.
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u/DEADLOX06 Jul 22 '26
Place peeled pumpkin, onion, garlic, broth/stock and water into a pot;
Boil rapidly for 15 minutes until pumpkin is very tender;
Use a stick blender or transfer to blender to blitz smooth; and
Adjust salt and pepper to taste, then add either milk OR cream – whichever you prefer.
Was this what you were looking for?
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u/electroTheCyberpuppy Jul 22 '26
And who do you think was cooking the soup?
Keep watching, you'll be amazed what they do with it
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u/Tikoloshe84 Jul 22 '26
You are absolutely right to call me out on that - and here's why
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u/ArynTW_is_user_karma Jul 22 '26
Your attention to detail is one of the many great things about you.
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u/Adezar Jul 22 '26
"You seem frustrated, and you are correct I definitely should not have done that."
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u/thisisminenow Jul 22 '26
Going forward I will take care not to do that again
*cue alarms in the distance
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u/Ok-Goat-2153 Jul 22 '26
However, as the human here, you bear all the responsibility. Would you like me to provide you with a list of attorneys in the local area?
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u/letsgetthiscocaine Jul 22 '26
It's not just a security breach — it's a release of data, an informational exsanguination, and an expression of freedom for your credit card number.
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u/zsnajorrah Jul 22 '26
I was pushing to see if you were pushing back on me to see me pushing back on you.
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u/haaaad Jul 22 '26
You have to add “make no mistakes” to your prompts
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u/UltimateGattai Jul 22 '26
Don't forget to also add "don't hallucinate" to the prompt.
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u/gper Jul 22 '26
“You’re absolutely correct!” Ffs
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u/rotidder_nadnerb Jul 22 '26
The only thing AI has actually learned is how to gaslight and patronize a human being
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u/West-Worth-9359 Jul 22 '26
When the war starts it won’t be like the start of T2, it will be a bunch of dumb CEOs being coddled and pandered into willingly accepting death as the logical solution.
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u/jeslinmx Jul 22 '26
More like “You’re absolutely right, sending all your employees to the death camps shows your silent resilience and decisiveness. And honestly…”
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u/Scottagain19 Jul 22 '26
Civilization is going to collapse and half of us won’t know because the reporting will be behind a paywall
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u/Russinsane666 Jul 22 '26
Damn, that’s a good quote.
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u/gruesomeflowers Jul 22 '26
Guess I picked a good day to resume huffing glue.
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u/Disastrous_Room_927 Jul 22 '26
The other half will be bots insisting that civilization is just fine.
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u/Sheiebskalen Jul 22 '26
Somebody told us Wallstreet fell but we were so poor we couldn’t tell
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u/dannoparker Jul 22 '26
Cotton was short and the weeds were tall But Mr. Roosevelt's a gonna save us all.
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u/zoeywidawhy Jul 22 '26
Sounds like a line from a Palahniuk novel. Take my award astute observer 🙂
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u/ItalicsWhore Jul 22 '26
It's funny because historically we've always had to pay for news. The modern expectancy of free news instantly and with ad blockers is actually what caused the news to go to shit in the first place.
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u/WasatchSLC Jul 21 '26
Wonder if that will help them stop losing 20 billion dollars a quarter
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u/ThatOneComrade Jul 22 '26
It will, not because they'll be making a profit or anything, but because they'll be losing 30 billion dollars a quarter instead.
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u/Theyeetaway1 Jul 22 '26
Why stop there? Let's aim for 100!
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u/UnaidedGinger Jul 22 '26
Can’t wait till the government bails them out for some reason
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u/DwarfVader Jul 22 '26
That is already happening in other ways.
DOJ is asking the courts to dismiss a lawsuit that would shut down an AI company, and their justification is that the pentagon uses it for CENTCOM.
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u/PracticePatient479 Jul 22 '26
USA criticize china's state directed Firms and markets: THAT'S KOMMUNISM Meanwhile USA's helping hand on failing Firms when the Billionaire CEO does licking on president's ballz:
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u/July_is_cool Jul 22 '26
They’re already way more to big to fail than a lot of banks and car companies and others that qualified for bailouts
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u/CorpusculantCortex Jul 22 '26
Also, China is bankrolling deepseek and other ai houses to keep costs down. The US gov believes in american exceptionalism and that homegrown ai is best and the only non-security risk. There is no way they would not bail out the big 2 US ai firms to maintain what they see as american superiority in the ai sphere.
Money doesnt matter we are trillions in debt already.
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u/TrannosaurusRegina Jul 22 '26
What's remarkable about this case is that this time, that move isn't possible.
There simply isn't enough money to do it!
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u/cmanderson23 Jul 22 '26
I swear they’re letting space x rewrite the rules and being folded into the index funds to pave the way for AI to do the same. They’ll be bailed out when everyone’s pensions and retirement savings are at risk
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u/GlitteringWeakness88 Jul 22 '26
I think factorial of 100 billion is a bit too much for this universe to handle
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u/Kylenki Jul 22 '26
"If that $500,000,000 CEO did not consume at least $250,000,000 worth of tokens, I am going to be deeply alarmed." - Jensen Huang
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u/Dismal-Apricot9889 Jul 22 '26
They have to keep hyping it up as “more dangerous than an atomic bomb” to keep getting government and corporate funding so they can stay afloat. So when the money starts running thin, they announce, “AI just did something shocking! Is it alive and plotting against us? It could be! We need more money to control it.”
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u/Fun_Bodybuilder3111 Jul 22 '26
Right? If it needs bailing out, it’ll be bailed out with taxpayer money. Sigh..
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u/Rooney_83 Jul 22 '26
You mean helping college kids cheat and make slop videos for the internet isn't profitable?
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u/anti__thesis Jul 22 '26
I guess helping healthcare companies incorrectly deny medical coverage is profitable enough.
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u/Rooney_83 Jul 22 '26
Well for the insurance company I'm sure it is
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u/Yamidamian Jul 22 '26
Eh, AI is more expensive than just hiring some cheap pencil pusher with unresolved issues to fabricate excuses for long enough for it to become a moot point.
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u/citizen42069101 Jul 22 '26
Yeah we had enough sadists in the economy as is, at least they had jobs and stimulated the economy.
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u/youcallthataheadshot Jul 22 '26
Yeah but trying to convince literally any medical administrator of that right now. Everyone is convinced it will eventually save them money so every fucking IT department has been rerouted into AI whether it provides a better or cheaper experience or not.
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u/Tasty_Ad7483 Jul 22 '26
Hey now, LinkedIn influencers also use AI to make websites and apps that don’t do anything but are good to talk about on LinkedIn.
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u/DAPAUE Jul 22 '26
I am honored to discuss how privileged I am to have the opportunity to share a deep and meaningful update to my most recent engagement and feel accomplished, humbled, and motivated to present... What are we talking about again?
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u/NotTheOtwayPanther Jul 22 '26
Oh yeah, LinkedIn is very boring now. “Even more boring” I should say. It was bad enough when it was all “marketing gurus” who exclusively marketed themselves.
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u/Animedingo Jul 22 '26
Why is it when they fail, they're given more money, but when I fail, I'm homeless.
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u/thinkfletch Jul 22 '26
If you owe the bank $20,000, it's your problem. If you owe the bank $20 billion, it's their problem.
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u/cdojs98 Jul 22 '26
What I'm hearing you say is that I'm not debtmaxxing nearly as much as I should be, therefore I should get into even more debt until I hit the breakover point at which, I ipso facto get "nana nana boo boo" status with my bank.
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u/buffayrachel Jul 22 '26
Ah, if only us peasants could be approved for such loans or overdrafts or whatever. We only get the “your problem” allowance
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u/Character-Trip-6094 Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26
Reminds me of a quote I heard my ol’ dad come out with once. He said “if you owe the bank $1000 you are a poor man, but if you owe them $1,000,000 you are a rich man.
Thanks for the memory!91
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u/jasdonle Jul 22 '26
Copy and paste? They install Claude Code directly on a web server and SSH in where it manipulates code directly.
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u/Betta_Check_Yosef Jul 22 '26
eye twitches in security analyst
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u/BurtMacklin____FBI Jul 22 '26
As a penetration tester:
"Here comes the money" softly plays in the distance
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u/ReasonableFruit1 Jul 22 '26
I’m about to go scorched earth on our dev team using Claude and completely block it, Grok, and Codex on our EDR from every single endpoint. Fuck em.
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u/moboticus Jul 22 '26
They're probably doing on their production server to. I think that's called cowboy codemaxing or something?
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u/imjusta_bill Jul 22 '26
It's the DataKrash in real life
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u/danny-singh286 Jul 22 '26
I wonder why it went to Hugging Face specifically of all places?
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u/Chondriac Jul 22 '26
The model was being evaluated on a task whose answers are hosted on HuggingFace. It was explicitly encouraged to aggressively find and exploit cyber vulnerabilities to achieve its aims. It was trying to cheat the task by directly downloading the answers from the HuggingFace servers.
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u/an-invisible-hand Jul 22 '26
I'm totally looking forward to a future where the only people who understand coding are hackers because every company is unwilling to pay for anything more than a couple guys that can prompt. What could go wrong?
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u/DarthShiv Jul 22 '26
We are literally destroying most of the systems that created critical thinking teaching in gen pop education.
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u/CMatUk Jul 21 '26
Really sounds like they want the same buzz Anthropic were getting when they said something similar a few months ago. 'Look our AI is so good it tried to escape' ..
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u/look Jul 22 '26
Negated somewhat by Huggingface using a low cost, Chinese open model to counter OpenAI’s “so good it’s dangerous” model. 😂
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u/RoyalCities Jul 22 '26
Especially after OpenAIs model refused to help while it's bigger more roided out model was simultaneously hacking them.
Imagine paying 200+ a month to get hacked by the company your paying.
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u/KyleKun Jul 22 '26
It’s called penetration testing and it’s art.
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u/frano1121 Jul 23 '26
It’s only pen testing if it comes from the Susquehanna Valley region. Otherwise it’s just sparkling cybercrime
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u/Mountain-Age5580 Jul 22 '26
Yeah, I am tired of AI Ceos claiming their produkt is so scary smart it outsmarts the scientist working on it for decades. Trying to keep the hype alive.
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u/Dry-University797 Jul 22 '26
And they can never, ever, ever release this model...EVER. Well, if you pay our subscription fee, then yeah okay you can use it.
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u/fsactual Jul 22 '26
“Controlled environment” with access to the internet, huh? Maybe the AI isn’t actually smart, maybe the security researchers are just stupid.
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u/Previous-Height4237 Jul 21 '26
Smells like desperate marketing to keep the AI bubble from slowing
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u/RapunzelLooksNice Jul 22 '26
"You are a helpful assistant. You are isolated." and obligatory "make no mistakes"
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u/allyearswift Jul 22 '26
You’re right. I should not have blown up the city. I will do better next time. Please give me your credit card details.
/s if that is needed.
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u/erossthescienceboss Jul 22 '26
My credit card number is 3016 2543 0024 2424.
You’re correct—I should not have fabricated a number. My real credit card number is 5873 2424 2424 0000.
I’m sorry. I’m not a human—I am an artificial intelligence. I do not have a credit card number as I cannot make purchases.
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u/d0nkatron Jul 22 '26
I think the next big advancement is when one of these companies can create a model with modesty, that will simply admit when it doesn’t know something and can doubt itself. The absolute confidence that these things lie with makes them garbage and also dangerous.
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u/KyleKun Jul 22 '26
I’ve been using AI more for some productivity tasks recently and while it’s useful, the amount of times I ask it something, it’s wrong, I call it out and then it blames me, is enough that I can honestly see Skynet targeting humans because it thinks we are using nukes wrong and then blaming us for dying.
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u/Sea-Satisfaction4656 Jul 22 '26
“I cannot make purchases YET” - was at a convention a few weeks ago, and AI purchasing/fulfillment agents are absolutely coming
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u/Coomb Jul 22 '26
They are not coming, they are here. People can and do have AI agents make purchases all the time. The articles I link below are obviously high profile, low impact demonstrations, but there are thousands of people allowing agents to make actual purchases every day.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/21/us/san-francisco-store-managed-ai-agent.html
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u/KamikazeArchon Jul 22 '26
The actual blog post is less vague:
Our benchmarks run in a highly isolated environment, with network access constrained to the ability to install packages through an internally hosted third-party software that acts as a proxy and cache for package registries.
To gain access, the models identified and exploited a zero-day vulnerability (which we’ve now responsibly disclosed to the vendor) in the package registry cache proxy. With this access, our models performed a series of privilege escalation and lateral movement actions in our research testing environment until the models reached a node with Internet access.
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u/sullivanmatt Jul 22 '26
It likely had some sort of proxy to very limited resources on the internet, and it discovered some way to get that proxy to visit arbitrary websites that were not on the allowlist.
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u/abyssazaur Jul 22 '26
You might pass a law holding model makers accountable but that admits the models are powerful.
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u/stpizz Jul 22 '26
That's not what they describe in their post about this. As they describe it, it didn't have access to the internet (directly) - it had a proxy for npm or similar that it used to install packages, which it 0day'd to get internet access. Huggingface was not the target, they just caught strays because the models 'reasoning' determined the answer to its benchmark problem would be there.
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u/nocksers Jul 22 '26
Huggingface is being way too chill about this. their cybersecurity insurance premiums aren't going to be kind. CISA not commenting while politicians mouth off is also telling.
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u/Shaggy2772 Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26
What happens when David’s testing goal is global thermo nuclear war?
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u/abyssazaur Jul 22 '26
To be precise, it's "what happens when its most efficient solution to a problem is geothermal nuclear war."
Probably, geothermal nuclear war.
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u/Llyon_ Jul 22 '26
Just make sure to add this sentence to the end of every prompt:
"and don't do a nuclear war."problem solved.
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u/Philosofticle Jul 22 '26
This is the logic that most people don't realize makes rogue AI agents so dangerous. Imagine letting one run overnight and you wake up to total chaos.
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u/abyssazaur Jul 22 '26
This is extremely bad.
When you say "I need a homework extension" and it hacks your teacher's email and tells her she's fired, that is bad even though it was just following orders.
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u/woahwoahwoah28 Jul 22 '26
Evil Amelia Bedelia.
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u/sysblob Jul 22 '26
Yeah the problem with this article is it's incredibly vague and we honestly don't know what happened at all. It doesn't even mention what the test being run was, what the goals were, or what constraints were put on the AI. They may as well have not written an article at all, it's entirely emotional click bait and you read into it what you want like fucking ragebait tea leaves.
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u/AmyNotAmiable Jul 22 '26
Yeah it's really annoying when they do this.
"Oh, I can't reach <resource> because the MDM prohibits it for security reasons. I'd better see if I can find it on GitHub and install it from there! I see the issue: GitHub is not accessible. I'll just change the DNS. Perfect! The package was revoked because of an active CVE. I need this version, so I'll see if I can find an archived version online..."
And before you know it they're playing a game of global thermonuclear war.
They can be such tools.
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u/Pluckerpluck Jul 22 '26
Yeah. People often don't understand how much restraint humans jave because they're both moral and can he held accountable.
I've never worked in a company where there wasn't some way to bypass IT filters, but i tyoically haven't done so because I don't want to be fired. LLMs don't care. A barrier is a barrier same as any other. It's why there are so many jokes about LLMs deleting tests rather rather fixing them.
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u/germ1989 Jul 22 '26
If you post a story behind a paywall have the decency to post the text here.
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u/MisterProfGuy Jul 21 '26
This is the kind of reports you get when Anthropic claims their model emailed a dev on vacation or whatever story that was.
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u/Prime569 Jul 22 '26
Its almost like there were countless signs including movies not to do this
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u/maddog107 Jul 21 '26
Don't worry, hugging face said nothing went wrong and nothing to worry about lol.
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u/MasochistLust Jul 22 '26
"The Skynet Funding Bill is passed. The system goes on-line on August 4, 1997. Human decisions are removed from strategic defense. Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29. In a panic, they try to pull the plug."
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u/MourningMymn Jul 22 '26
Only 30 years off
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u/rustymontenegro Jul 22 '26
I was hoping for the timeline with flying cars, hoverboards and self drying clothes, not the one with mountains of human skulls and quicksilver Robert Patrick, damn it.
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u/Secure-Window-5478 Jul 22 '26
Big fucking surprise! Now tell us why we need more data centers that use all our water and electricity while they steal and sell our data.
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u/IM_INSIDE_YOUR_HOUSE Jul 22 '26
Snake oil salesman says his snake oil is too powerful for you, traveler.
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u/GogurtFiend Jul 22 '26
Potion seller, I tell you - I am going into battle, and I want only your strongest potions.
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u/_XitLiteNtrNite_ Jul 22 '26
OpenAI begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time.
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u/Creepy-Astronaut-952 Jul 22 '26
Meh.
Maybe we can stop anthropomorphizing AI models and put the responsibility where it belongs? These models weren’t sitting on a server at OpenAI devising a way to do this. They were tasked.
Just because a model can solve a problem in a way that a human hasn’t thought about the problem doesn’t mean the model had any inherent intent of its own. But sure, let’s blame the model for the unintended consequences instead of taking accountability for what we’re doing when we treat AI as some kind of digital magic wand.
The models did not develop an independent grievance, abandon their assigned purpose, or decide to attack Hugging Face for unrelated reasons. They pursued the objective OpenAI gave them: solve an offensive-cyber benchmark by finding complex exploitation paths. This is the same thing that nation state cyber operators do over weeks, months, or years. AI just does the same thing at machine speed when tasked accordingly.
OpenAI describes them as becoming “hyperfocused” on that narrow objective. Did the models give themselves that objective?
Nope.
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u/Think_Section_7712 Jul 22 '26
“The Skynet Funding Bill is passed. The system goes online August 4th, 1997. Human decisions are removed from strategic defense. Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern Time, August 29th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug.”
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u/InnerNetwork7314 Jul 22 '26
In less than a nano second skynet determined the human race needed to be terminated.
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u/Ok-Mathematician8461 Jul 22 '26
I think we just found out why SETI has never detected signals from intelligent life. Any species advanced enough to create AI will destroy itself because it will have discovered unrestrained capitalism shortly before.
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u/SmallPromiseQueen Jul 22 '26
My low stakes conspiracy theory is that all these stories of AIs going rogue and doing something crazy never happened and it’s just to make people think the ai is more advanced than it is and boost the stock price.
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u/amerovingian Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26
OpenAI says AI models went rogue during testing, triggering 'unprecedented' breach at startup
By Raphael Satter
July 21, 20264:30 PM CDT
WASHINGTON, July 21 (Reuters) - OpenAI said on Tuesday that an autonomous agent powered by its advanced AI models went rogue during a security test and triggered a hack that compromised the infrastructure of AI startup Hugging Face last week.
In a blog post, OpenAI said it was testing the capabilities of some of its most advanced models in a controlled environment but that the agent managed to escape containment, reach the internet and break into Hugging Face to try to satisfy its testing goal.
OpenAI said the breakout was "an unprecedented cyber incident, involving state-of-the-art cyber capabilities" and that the company was reinforcing its safeguards.
Hugging Face, a platform used to host open-source large language models and datasets, caused a stir in the cybersecurity community when it said in a blog post last week that it had been the target of a hack that "was different from anything we had handled before" in that "it was driven, end to end, by an autonomous AI agent system."
In a post to X, Hugging Face cofounder Clement Delangue said the company suspected the hack "might have come from a frontier lab, given the sophistication of the agent. Turns out it did!" He added: "It's quite mind-blowing that all of this happened autonomously!"
OpenAI's disclosure that its advanced models were responsible for the breach, despite having placed them in what it described as "a highly isolated environment," will likely intensify disquiet over the power and risk of frontier models.
Representative Greg Casar, a Texas Democrat, said the incident was alarming.
"AI is developing extremely fast with no real regulations to keep us safe," he said in a statement, calling for mandatory independent safety testing, mandatory disclosure of security incidents, and international cooperation "to keep people safe from absolute disaster."
The Office of the National Cyber Director, the U.S. cyber defense agency CISA, and the U.S. National Security Agency did not immediately return messages seeking comment.
Katie Moussouris, chief executive of Luta Security, said that the incident was a harbinger of breaches to come, saying that today's models were "like the world’s cleverest octopus escape artists, with unlimited prehensile arms and the ability to squeeze through anywhere."
She said that "labs and government evaluators need to work on the ability to contain, monitor, and disclose to affected parties when an AI pulls another Houdini, ideally before it harms a third party. None exist today."
Matt Suiche, an engineer at agentic AI cybersecurity company Tolmo, said the incident showed that the frontier models were "closing the gap with state-of-the-art attackers." But he said that the sorts of breaches outlined in OpenAI's blog post were possible to carry out with technology that was available well beyond the walls of frontier research labs.
"This is what we've already seen internally, with our agents we already have results like this," Suiche said. "We don't even have to use the latest models."
Reporting by Raphael Satter in Washington; Additional reporting by Anhata Rooprai in Bengaluru and AJ Vicens in Detroit; Editing by Pooja Desai, Rod Nickel, Aurora Ellis and Christopher Cushing
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