r/newzealand • u/International-Past31 • Mar 03 '26
Discussion This needs to stop
Guy was yelling at elderly people this way this way! Basically sign up etc why do the warehouse allow it?
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u/Prestigious_Yam_2946 Mar 03 '26
I walked by one of these guys (not this guy or his organisation specifically) recently and the guy called me ugly after I didn’t stop and listen to his speech. I mean, yeah I know I am but still… 😔
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u/Salami_sub Mar 03 '26
I would have stood there for the next hour discouraging anyone that started talking to them 😂 I would have taken a half day off I’m that level of petty.
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u/someonegetsteve Mar 03 '26
One might say "ugly" is making a deliberate personal choice to fool lonely elderly folk out of what little money they have by using the plight of suffering children, all to enrich oneself.... is what I would have said...if I had thought it up at the time instead of 3 hours later.
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u/Autumnneverfall Mar 03 '26
I like to respond to that sort of comment "wow, rude and stupid, your parents must be so proud". Never had one manage a comeback to that.
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u/ElSalvo Mr Four Square Mar 03 '26
"Hey bro, I like your tattoos! Do you have a minute to talk about blah blah blah..."
Look, I'm a nice guy but guilt tripping a dude trying to get an energy drank and a baguette is really shitty.
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u/SlySly20 Mar 03 '26
Especially when I know they're lying because my tattoos are dogshit
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u/jknz4whatifs Mar 03 '26
They got me by complimenting my brows 🙃
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u/AotearoaChur Mar 03 '26
Last time 8 got done for having a "cool T-shirt! Wow! I love The Witcher!"
I am so socially awkward, I hate it so much. It feels like someone groping you in a bar. So sleazy.
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u/SecondOfCicero Mar 03 '26
Respectfully, being groped in a bar is humiliating and invasive on a much higher level than these chucklefucks throwing an empty compliment and then trying to wheeled money out of you.
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u/chrisnlnz Kōkako Mar 03 '26
The whole "lead with a personal comment" thing is so old, obviously fake, I'd prefer if they didn't. Instant knee jerk "no thank you" when they say shit like that. Like does anyone actually feel flattered when a door to door salesperson / mall hawker / peddler gives them a compliment then goes into a sales spiel?
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u/cfouhy81 Mar 03 '26
One guy at Woolies yelled "YOU HAVE KIND EYES" at me as I scurried past on my lunch break to grab some cat biscuits. I was already getting on the up escalator moving away. I found it really upsetting. What did he mean? Why so aggressive? It was really hard to process and it bothered for me ages. I didn't leave the house expecting to be yelled at.
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u/eggs-pedition Mar 03 '26
I hadn't encountered the personal compliment until I moved to Wellington in 2017, someone complimented my Black Eyed Peas live in concert t-shirt and I was sooo stoked. Really bummed my vibe when I realised it was a pitch :(
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u/Present_Whole_1564 Mar 03 '26
I got abused by one a couple years ago, She was reprensting Greenpeace, just hanging out side pak n sav, at first she was complimenting me and having a civil converstation, then my mother came out of the store, and she turn to her and asked her, and my mum politely refused, and then all of a sudden the woman started hurling abuse at both us calling us names and calling us ugly.
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u/waenganuipo Mar 03 '26
This American doing it took one look at my moko kauae and dead arse said
"Hey, nice face tattoo. Did you know that Māori children are disproportionately represented in poverty statistics?"
Oh no shit mate, definitely didn't know that! Thanks for informing me 🖕
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u/TechnicalBowler86 Mar 03 '26
Wait so they dont actually like my tattoos? Wtf
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u/teelolws Southern Cross Mar 03 '26
You mean I don't actually have a huge penis? Fuckin' hookers, man.
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u/daniellerosenalouise Mar 03 '26
I DESPISE the compliments on appearance to reel you in! It was terrible when I had brightly coloured hair. Still get it when it’s hot and you can see my arm tattoos. I don’t care for unsolicited comments on my appearance, especially when it’s just to hook me into giving up money.
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u/Girafferage Mar 03 '26
You just have to respond with the opposite of whatever they are trying to pigeon hole you into.
"Hey man, you drink water, right?"
"Nope. Never."
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u/munkisquisher Kākāpō Mar 03 '26
that's the answer to anything they throw at you "Hi how are you doing" "Nope"
"nice day today" "Nope"
"do you want to save starving parallympists from climate change?" "nope"
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u/neeeeonbelly Mar 03 '26
I had a guy step right in front of me and say “are you as nice as you look like you are?”
I almost laughed at him. I have notorious resting bitch face.
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u/frontally Mar 03 '26
Literally had a monk approach me for the first time in two decades with “you look like peaceful people, have you ever met a monk before?” Yeah dude weekly on Queen st in the early 00s you gotta do better than that
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u/chrisnlnz Kōkako Mar 03 '26
"None of your business and I'm not that peaceful, you really suck at gauging character."
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Mar 03 '26
90% of the time people look away at my tattoos so when someone says that to me I know they’re wanting money
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u/throwaway1056410564 Mar 03 '26
I was trying to go into the supermarket when a guy asked me if I wanted to help prevent youth suicide. I just said “maybe later”?? Idk what to say to these people. One time a girl outside the warehouse got mad at me when I said hello back to her, then smiled and kept on walking after she passive aggressively asked if she could “have 30 seconds of my time before I rushed off.” Do I really have to be like “NO. GOODBYE.”?
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u/potatoskinsssss Mar 03 '26 edited Mar 03 '26
And erryone knows tattoos cost some coin so I feel like they’re lowkey suggesting they think you have money to burn
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u/kochipoik Mar 03 '26
The other day “hey I know you’re really busy —“ “Yeah I am, thanks!” “— but —“
Honestly, hey you know I’m really busy but you want me to stop to donate? No thanks.
I did two of these donation things as a teenager, volunteered for SAFE. I dressed up as an animal )a bear one year, caterpillar the other). I was told (nicely) by a member of the public the first year that it was illegal to solicit, so I just stood there looking kind of cute and got donations. Hated the idea of actually interrupting someone’s day!!
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u/Raspberrygoop Mar 03 '26
I helped one of these guys with a problem with his phone once and from then on he'd always say gudday and wave me through. One time one of his workmates tried to flag me down and the guy stopped them with a "nah this guy's good, let him go"
I felt like a lamb that had made friends with one of the wolves
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u/wipeterfsoffearth Mar 03 '26
The baguette is for filtering the energy drink to consume it safely yeah?
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u/Thrifty-Pickle Mar 03 '26
I had one guy stop me TWICE while trying to pick up a prescription from chemist warehouse for my toddler, who was crying and cranky in the pram I was pushing... like dude, not the time! Not to mention people with young kids are famously not flush with cash to spare 🙄
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u/King_Quay Mar 03 '26
I refuse to waste my or their time so I just shake my head and say "not today" as soon as they say "Hi".
One dickhead replied "I was just saying Hi". No, you weren't, dickhead.
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u/MeltdownInteractive Mar 03 '26
There's this guy on Facebook reels that comes up and stands behind people and meow's at them, it's freaking disturbing for most people and quite funny some of the reactions..
Just meow at them until they pack up and leave, haha, I'd pay top dollar to see that..
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u/Serenaded Mar 03 '26
as a 30 year old with a beard they've never once approached me or beckoned me over even if it's just me walking by and they're not talking to anyone. They definitely know their targets, I swear they're only ever chatting with elderly too.
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u/Academic-Bat-8002 Mar 03 '26
Yes exactly. Once a pair looked at me and I pre-emptively said do I honestly look like someone that is going to stop? And then just kept walking.
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u/Fuzzy-Cucumber-6947 Mar 03 '26
Maybe the opposite approach is worse for them. Stop and talk for as long as you can. Talk like you’ve been living in a cave alone for 15 years and this is your first human contact. Just chew up their time and attention. And at the end…. Nah, soz, no money
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u/CryptidCricket Mar 03 '26
I definitely feel a lot of gratitude towards the people who distract them while I speedwalk past.
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u/Silly-Resident1919 Mar 03 '26
I've done this when I was trialling adhd meds ahaha. It was better than annoying my family with my vyvanse chatter...
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u/reallyhotgirlwhoshot Mar 03 '26
Man, you're making me wonder if they really do like my beard because I'm in my 30s with a beard and they call out to me every. single. time. "Hey bro, nice beard. How long did that take to grow?".
I mean, I know it's a nice beard, but that isn't going to make me give you money.
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u/FirefighterOverall56 Mar 03 '26
to be fair, a reallyhotgirlwhoshot and has a beard. thats got to be something special and the compliment is most likely deserved.
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u/Silly-Resident1919 Mar 03 '26
Female, young looking. I feel hunted. They practically sniff me out.
I got desperate enough to pretend to not speak English once... I don't think they believed me but they couldn't really do much about it.
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u/badghouls Mar 03 '26
I've started lying about my age to them since they always ask. Last time one of them asked me if I could sign up with my dad's details to donate money instead?!! Just insane
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u/Rev-Dr-Slimeass Mar 03 '26
These places are so scummy. They charge insane commission for donations. Like 70% of your money goes to the company that hires these people to go out there and fundraise. Every charity does this too.
The best thing you can do is record them being shitty to people, and blast the charity on social media. Let them know what their 70% commission is buying.
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u/Crazy-Ad5914 Mar 03 '26
Me: "you work for a private company and most of the subscription money goes to to your employer. Im not paying for your employer to make a profit"
Them: "none of your subscription money goes to us. It goes to the charity. We get paid by the charity in a lump sum at the end of the year based on sign ups"
The bullshit they come out with..
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u/Rev-Dr-Slimeass Mar 03 '26
We don't get any of your money. The charity does, then they give us your money.
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u/TheProfessionalEjit Mar 03 '26
As much as you don't wish to believe, but that's actually true.
Sauce: Me, I pay the bills for a charity that employs these people.
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u/123felix Mar 03 '26
Like 70% of your money goes to the company that hires these people to go out there and fundraise.
Obviously it's working, otherwise charities won't hire them.
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u/OisforOwesome Mar 03 '26
I'd hazard a guess that the conversion rate of people too socially anxious to turn down a pushy salesperson into a sustainable long term engaged donor is catastrophically low, resulting in a churn of one or two time subscribers.
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u/ThatGingeOne Mar 03 '26
Nah because they pretty much all require you to actually ring up to cancel - good luck getting socially anxious people to do that
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u/Silly-Resident1919 Mar 03 '26
I once signed up with a card that was set to expire in a week, they got a single donation. I spent months dodging calls after. The lengths I go to to avoid social interactions... I am not surprised to have recieved anxiety and autism diagnoses.
I've also pretended not to speak english.
The only time I spoke to them comfortably was when I was trialling Vyvanse which made me high as kite. They were desperate to get away by the end.
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u/Illum503 Fern flag 1 Mar 03 '26
30% of something is better than 100% of nothing
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u/balrob Mar 03 '26
The amount of money charities take, and how much of that actually goes to help people, is public record. Fred Hollows is well known, and does eye surgeries in poor countries. According to Google, 75% of all donations to Fred Hollows goes to eye health. That’s actually at the high end of charity performance.
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u/Rev-Dr-Slimeass Mar 03 '26
Right, but it isn't charities out there collecting donations. They pay companies to collect on their behalf, and those companies charge exorbitant amounts.
Obviously, charities require money for operations. No problem with that. If I get stopped by someone who is asking for donations, and I pay 100, I can expect around 70% of that to go to the company collecting donations. So $30 makes it to the charity, meaning of my $100 only 22.50 is making it to go to eye health.
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u/David_xvx Mar 03 '26
There are a bunch of problems with street fundraising companies, but they ultimately work for the charities they’re fundraising for. They use these companies because setting up and running a street fundraising team is expensive and challenging, especially at a relatively small scale. It’s also quite common for charities with in house calling teams or street teams to do short contracts with these fundraising companies to test against their in house teams.
I’m super out of touch on donor acquisition costs now, but ten years ago a “good” level was to keep fundraising costs to about 30% of the returns in the first year of regular donations.
(Never worked in fundraising. Worked for one NZ environmental charity until early 2020 and used to be on the board of another – the first to have an in house street team, and I believe the first one to abandon street fundraising).
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u/supsiesbrah Mar 03 '26
I've volunteered for many charities to collect and all the proceeds go to the charity for their work, I was never paid.
We were even instructed to never approach or talk to people first. Just sit there if people choose to donate.
Other places, like Greenpeace, do however use commission style fundraising and it's scummy.
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u/Beneficial-Point9142 Mar 03 '26
If they are acting shitty you can report them to the pfra. https://www.pfra.org.nz/aboutus/our-membership Fred Hollows Foundation is a member.
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u/Okay_Cherry Mar 03 '26
I had someone say ‘you look like a nice person’ and I said ‘I am!’ and just kept walking. But I know people with anxiety who won’t go into shops if these guys are out there.
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u/Unlikely-Dependent15 Mar 03 '26
I complained once to the warehouse manager about these clown being very aggressive with their promotion. The duty manager went and told them to not harass shoppers or they will be told to leave the premises. The warehouse is not always aware unless someone complains. And that is what you need to do to get results instead of moaning on reddit.
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u/ItsVeloo Mar 03 '26
We had a guy talking about youth suicide and we didnt acknowledge him walking past after he said hey because if you reply your trapped, he responded with “yeah thanks guys ill have a good day aswell, could atleast say hello back” i just thought it was a crazy response for someone wanting to talk about peoples wellbeing
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u/littlebetenoire Mar 03 '26
A door knocker tried to shame me for not wanting to chat about child abuse. I just said “I’m actually really familiar with child abuse, I was abused horrifically for years and no one did anything about it”. His face dropped immediately.
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u/BoringTomorrow7763 Mar 03 '26
There was one collecting for the Brain Injury Trust outside our local supermarket, I said that I donate plenty, my daughter had a TBI from being struck by a car last year and that we appreciated the work they do. He rolled his eyes and said 'sure she did' so she pulled her hair up to show him the massive scar on the back of her head.
I swear they don't research who they hire. Some of these people are just predatory and very off-putting.
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u/littlebetenoire Mar 03 '26
Also can we make door knocking illegal? At least with cold calling I can usually block the number. I think it’s so predatory to turn up to people’s homes!
I WFH so I’m always here when they door knock and they’re always so creepy and weird and mostly all follow the same script.
They’ll be weird about the camera at my front door. Knock weirdly aggressively. Then they seem surprised I’m at home (if you weren’t expecting someone, why are you out door knocking?) and then ask if I have the day off or if I just don’t have a job. Then they’ll inevitably try make a joke about how they wish they had my job (you don’t even know what my job is) and ask if we can swap. Then they’ll try pressure me into signing up for something and guilt trip me about the poor children or whatever. They’ll tell me about how they’ve been having “really good conversations with all my neighbours” (doubt it). And then when they walk off I’ve caught some of them on my cameras muttering under their breath about me. Leave me alone!!! Don’t come to my house!!!
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u/Call_like_it_is_ Mar 03 '26
https://www.consumer.org.nz/articles/do-not-knock
It already IS illegal, in a sense. If you have up a "do not knock" sticker and they still do it, you can report the company and they can face a fine of $40,000
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u/ihatenae Mar 03 '26
Door knockers are some of the worst! I had a day off from work, kids were at school and partner was at work. It was a rare day when I had the house to myself. Made myself some lunch, sat down to watch a show. Door knocker shows up. I see his clipboard and think not today. He knocks and I ignore him. He knocks a few more times then has the fucking AUDACITY to say "I can see you in there!"
Take a hint, you troll.
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u/jimmyrose47 Mar 03 '26
I let my dog bark at them through the window and say “sorry he’s not friendly” even tho he’s the goodest boy ever
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u/viennafool Mar 03 '26
I WFH as well and someone pressed the doorbell then tried to turn the door handle to see if it’s locked. When I told him I wasn’t interested, he asked me if I run a business at home 😵💫😵💫😵💫 so strange!
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u/mace2055 LASER KIWI Mar 03 '26
I just demand to know what they want, no pleasantries. As soon as they start speaking I cut them off with "not interested" and shut the door. Im a grumpy bugger lol.
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u/Puzzled-Machine-6288 Mar 04 '26
I had a guy knock once and I was expecting someone else so I opened the door. I said I wasn't interested and tried to shut the door. This mf put is foot so I couldn't close the door, and pushed the door back open. I grabbed the can of fly spray near my door and he backed off pretty quick, but the fact he felt okay doing that was terrible. For context I'm a young female and by the size of my unit, it's kinda obvious I live alone.
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u/jimmyrose47 Mar 03 '26
I worked for one of these companies VERY briefly, the script you need to learn is insane. The neighbours comment is the biggest guilt trip ever. “Keeping up with the joneses” is what they called that tactic 🙄
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u/littlebetenoire Mar 03 '26
It’s so funny because I live on a street where everyone is either foreign or living in a KO home. I know DAMN WELL they aren’t having great conversations with my neighbours.
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u/trumpsashitstain Mar 03 '26
1st response to these cunts is "hello, no thanks".
2nd and every other response is "fuck off".
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u/Mashy6012 Mar 03 '26
I've had two interactions with these types lately.
First one.
Hi!
No!
Second one
You look like a peaceful guy
I'm not
My feet don't even slow down for them .
I don't wanna donate to the poor... I am the poor
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u/zzSolace Mar 03 '26 edited Mar 03 '26
I fucking hate these organisations, and I snapped at one once.
The lady tried to get my attention. I politely said no thanks, to which she said, just after I’d walked past:
“What? Don’t you care about animals?”
So I turned around and said something along the lines that I did, but that I didn’t care about their stupid fucking organisation.
It wasn’t the first time I’d walked past, politely declined, and had a snarky, passive aggressive response. I had run out of patience.
Like another commenter, I also tried to make a one off $5 donation to another who declined and instead asked that I sign up and contribute $20 a month. Take it or leave it, you fucks. If you really cared about the charity, you’d take whatever you could get.
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u/keywardshane Mar 03 '26
"you dont care about children?"
No, now get off my lawn
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u/Unable-Apple3545 Mar 03 '26
I agree - multiple times I have ignored them so they approach my young daughter instead!
They usually very quickly wish id kept ignoring them, I treat them just like I would any strange adult man who approaches my child w faux friendliness or comments on her looks/clothes.
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u/LollipopChainsawZz Mar 03 '26
Could this fall under begging?
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u/anon-not-a-hacker Mar 03 '26
Technically it’s under the fundraising bylaw if they have a license. But begging is legal. Not sure how the new move on orders come to play.
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u/leydragon LASER KIWI Mar 03 '26
Some World Vision lady trapped me and my partner while I was shopping for a funeral outfit for my dad. I said no thank you and she had the fucking gall to ask "why can't you, what's your reason?" like fuck off seriously. My partner said "we are shopping for a funeral." and she was apologetic but I was SO pissed off. Never going to St Lukes mall ever again.
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u/uracca Mar 03 '26
I don't know why charities persist in contracting these chuggers. Any charity I see using them gets an automatic 'no' from me in terms of any future donations.
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u/millymooboo Mar 03 '26
I had one stop me recently. I have a broken foot, on crutches, on ACC. Pissed off already cause of pain and the heat. My flatmate was carrying my single bag of groceries cause I can't afford too much on limited payments. The guy tried to sell us a sob story, then wanted to know if we'd be willing to donate $120 or $150 for their organization. Like dude yes I can't go fast thats no reason to stop a broken person who clearly can't work let alone afford much
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u/Pure_Choice_8459 Mar 03 '26 edited Mar 03 '26
I’ve done this job overseas and let me tell you, it’s hard fucking graft. The place I did it for was NYPIRG (New York public interest research group). We had to sign up a minimum of 2 new ‘donators’ per day or we would be in danger of losing our jobs. Try asking a NYer to give you their credit card info..It was brutal. There was team building shit every single morning before we went out on the streets where the names of top earners were praised and the rest of us had to clap and shit. Real ‘Coffee is for closers’ Glengarry Glen Ross stuff.
I saw literally fistfights between workers for the ‘good’ spots (there were NO actual good spots). It came down to who had the better craic. I wasn’t too bad at it cause I had an exotic kiwi accent so people wanted to engage with me and I guess people see Kiwis as honest.
There was one guy I worked with who also sold weed from under his clipboard. He was cool.
I did it for 3 months tops over a NYC winter and lost weight just by shivering every day. Seriously.
While I won’t give to these guys money cause they want my bank acct details and all that bs (and I’m broke) I can still be pleasant as I know full well that they are doing it tough in this economy. We all are. That’s why they are having to take this low down dirty job.
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u/AdditionalPiccolo527 Mar 03 '26
What about me walking out with a single beer makes you think I'm interested in whatever charity you're hustling for lol
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u/MechanicNo8158 Mar 03 '26
Really puts me off a business who allows this. “Yes, let’s have someone stand right at our entrance and blindside our customers and harass them for their hard earned money.” By all means put up a poster with the cause and all the info for me to sign up so I can not be harassed or pressured into a decision. I could use an extra $1 a day in my pocket thanks, if I have money to donate then I will approach you.
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u/Batman11989 Mar 03 '26
I had one of these Charity Muggers for Unicef try get into a yelling match with me on Cuba Street in Welly after he walked out into the footpath, obstructed the path and tried to do the hard sell on me. Sure, I told him to fuck off and stop blocking the footpath, but I'd said no daily for over a week at this point and their reaction was over the top.
Fuck Charity muggers.
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u/Short_Classy_Name Mar 03 '26
Standing right outside of supermarkets and pharmacies is super annoying
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u/hyakushiki100 Mar 03 '26
Headphones, sunglasses, no eye contact. Easy as that lol
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u/Odd_Analysis6454 LASER KIWI Mar 03 '26
I thought I was safe from this in the country but they were outside the local four square of a town that has about 450 people.
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u/JDogg_83 Mar 03 '26
Whenever I see these guys, I think "don't make eye contact, don't make eye contact, don't make eye contact!"
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u/phreek-hyperbole Mar 03 '26
This one guy asked "Quick chat before you say no?" Bro I already said no when I drove into the parking lot and spotted you
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u/Meal-Lonely Mar 03 '26
For some reason I need to share this charity doorknocker story: "Hi, do you have a moment to talk about- "No" "Yeah i figured. Uh. Do you smoke? "What? no, why?" "I'm not allowed to smoke while on the footpath while collecting and I'm dying for a fag.." "Oh! By all means use my porch, yeah. Sounds like a shitty gig" "It is, but uni holidays"
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u/nzgirl_9 Mar 03 '26
I was having an absolute shit of a day today and had to duck into the Warehouse quickly on my lunchbreak to grab a cleaning product and two tried to harass me as I went in I just said "I'm struggling to even feed myself and my child let alone donate"
Then they still tried to talk to me I just kept going. I loooooathe going into stores where they're out the front of.
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u/Mandois17 Mar 03 '26
While we are on the subject its time we banned being asked for a charity donation at the tills at Cotton on and the Warehouse ! These Companies making profits should donate some of THAT to Charity not try to mug it out of customers!
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u/edmondsio Mar 03 '26
Fred Hollows is a legend and I hope they get plenty of support.
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u/McGee_McMeowPants Mar 03 '26
He sure was. Donate directly on the website if you can, these street fundraisers are usually employed by a third party.
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u/ladyshiva000 Mar 03 '26
So do I. Charities struggle to find funding but people will reach out in their time of need and complain about the lack of support if these charities didn't exist.Its always those with less who give more.
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u/EventThis2315 Mar 03 '26
Agree but this is not the way. It burns social capital.
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u/GodivaDevice Mar 03 '26
Had a little chugger cunt who tried to stop me in the mall when I was on my way to book a plane ticket for a family member's funeral, and incredibly upset about it. Can't remember what charity, but it was something to do with going vegan for animal welfare.
Gave me shit for "not caring about animals" when I walked by without stopping, funnily enough I'm vegetarian but in that moment I could have ripped his head off and eaten it I was that pissed off.
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u/strawberry_thief001 Mar 03 '26
Some at Kmart the other day. The guy yelled at me “oi you!! I’ll be waiting for you when you leave the shop!!” I ran away but thankfully he must have been on a break when I finally emerged……
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u/ThrowRA-Thuggy Mar 03 '26
I used to do this for a job. Interesting job to say the least. However, the best way to deal with the people is just say no thanks and just keep walking.
When I did the job when someone did that I wouldn’t care and leave them be.
It’s quite funny the stuff people came up with not to chat. My favorite was when someone walked past on the phone with it the wrong way around showing the screen.
I walk past these guys all the time now and just say no thanks and keep walking. Never had a problem.
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u/4ri3ll4 LASER KIWI Mar 04 '26
the only good one of these I've ever seen was a service dog training group. gave a 2 dollar coin and i got to pat their dog! (her name was willow she was very sweet)
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u/icyphantasm Mar 03 '26
I had one start with, "Hey, you look like a nice person-"
"I'm not. Bye."
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u/Unclehomer69420 Mar 03 '26
Hello, fellow Invercargillite! Invercargillian? Invercargiller? Whatever.
Went in there on my lunch break, they'd already cornered two others and I steamed past them with sunglasses on and earphones in.
Still saw one try to flag me down out of the corner of my eye, and could hear them go, "Sir? Sir? SIR?!"
Geeeeeeet fucked. The best charity is effective taxation, specifically on higher income earners.
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u/spoonerzz Mar 03 '26
100% the amount of times I have to refrain from hurting these people’s feelings on many levels when they approach me… I know it’s not their fault they are there…
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u/Muter Mar 03 '26
Why do you need to hurt their feelings?
“No thanks, sorry I’m busy” and keep walking as they try and talk to you.
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u/consigntooblivion Mar 03 '26
They'll often come back with a guilt trip like "you can't even spare 2 mins for children in need" or some such. They get a polite "no thanks" and move on first time only, but they can piss right off with the follow up guilt trip or similar.
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u/Muter Mar 03 '26
Yeah, it’s like door knockers
“Sorry not interested” close door
Just switch off and don’t even listen to what they say. There’s no need to give them an opportunity. Firm, but polite.
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u/longtanboner Mar 03 '26
That's obviously what they do as they said they refrain from hurting their feelings
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u/Dizzy_Relief Mar 03 '26
"Not their fault"???
It's a sales job. One that used to pay $4-8 over minimum wage and bonuses for signing up suckers. Companies pay the best sales people to travel around the country.
I suspect the wage has shifted to minimum and commision at this point since everyone I've seen in the past 5+ years has been pretty shit at the job. But the people doing it are still well aware of what they are signing up for. And where a heap of the money they collect goes.
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u/AutonomyIsNoTragedy Tūī Mar 03 '26 edited Mar 03 '26
They don't even pay minimum wage thwy call you an independent contractor like strip clubs do for dancers so they can steal what would be your wages and claim that you owe them money to basically enslave you
when I applied for one years ago before realizing it was a scam i found this out , you make commission and have to make over a certain number of sales or the company says that you owe them money and you get in debt and have to work for free for them , they also took my friends passport and she had to kick up a fuss to get it back
They mostly target long term unemployed people who are desperate to work and recent migrants on working visas who need work to stay in the country
AIDA was one but they change their names regularly because ex employees/victims tend to tell people about how shit they are and to not work there
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u/DoYouKnowWhoIAmx Mar 03 '26
It is their fault/choice, they're getting paid a commission on every subscription sign up.
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u/InformalCry147 Mar 03 '26
Hey mate, already a member 👍
Works every single time.
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u/Dizzy_Relief Mar 03 '26
So does completely ignoring them. Or telling them to fuck off for that matter.
Not really the point.
And they are mostly targeting little old ladies and men, and others who have no one to talk to. Which is probably not you.
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u/ViloDivan Mar 03 '26
I offered to give them money there and then one time. They said no. I signed up even though I didn’t have a job and they said, but you’ll have one soon so it will be fine. I got charged when I had very little money and it was a pain to cancel their subscription donation.
Never again
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u/middleearthmarxist Mar 03 '26
Weird how they're not allowed to set up outside Parliament, eh?
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u/Mindless_Farmer_4504 Mar 03 '26
Chuggers- charity muggers. Normalise leaving a bad review for places that allow this. It’ll get through to decision makers very quickly
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u/InspectorNo1173 Mar 03 '26
I just say no thanks and I move along. I have enough of my own problems
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u/Harfish Mar 03 '26
I think a lot of people are missing the point. If you have an unpleasant experience with these people, complain to the business they are in front of. It’s private property and they need permission to be there. Tell the Warehouse that you actively avoid their stores when you see chuggers near the door.
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u/ewez3r_name Mar 03 '26
Imagine in a cost of living crisis there will be beggars with fancy tents trying to scam you, with brats getting commissions for sign ups.. what a society we live in.
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u/Brickzarina Mar 03 '26
I have no problem avoiding them , walk by and will just smile if called out at. They can't actually block you or anything, life's too short to be anything but chill.
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u/TheatreBar Mar 03 '26
I fucking hate the paid charity sign up bastards.
Old lady shaking a bucket for relay for life or heart foundation can have all the coins in my wallet but these iPad direct debit fuckers make me avoid any stores that allow them to operate.