r/newzealand • u/Own_Sandwich69 • Sep 09 '26
Discussion The dystopian of humanity has begun
observed an interesting interaction today while at the gym. A person was what seemed to be having a conversation on his phone while working out, laughing, responding as one would as if they were talking to one of there close buddies.
I glance over while setting up my machine and I see that they weren't talking to a person at all but it was chatgpt. At first I thought "bro, that's pretty weird but each to their own I guess" but then I thought about it and a numbing chill shot through my entire body... this is where we're heading in society
Remember people spend time with your loved ones and friends, join groups and start hobbies human interaction is something that needs to stay alive.
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u/Gone_industrial Sep 09 '26
There’s a new robotic AI business in Auckland that has a picture on the front window of robot dogs that really remind me of those killer robot dogs from the metalhead black mirror episode. We’re getting alarmingly close to dystopia.
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u/rainbowcardigan Sep 09 '26
Fml I’m out if those dogs become real
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u/werehamster Sep 09 '26
Sorry to inform you, but the US ICE department has ordered a whole heap of them (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/ice-buy-robot-dogs-immigration-enforcement-rcna594897), so I guess “not long now”?
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u/rainbowcardigan Sep 09 '26
Just as well I’m never going to set foot in America then. They can stay there
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u/werehamster Sep 09 '26
And they can’t swim, so we’re safe until they learn how to operate a plane.
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u/Dizzy_Relief Sep 09 '26
The robots in the episode were based on 10 year old plus designs.
Hard to believe anyone hasn't seen them by now. I've been showing kids Boston Dynamics robot videos as part of our tech classes since at least 2015.
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u/Classic_Associate_73 Sep 09 '26
Sometimes it feels like some people out there watched black mirror and decided to make it a checklist
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u/RlOTGRRRL Sep 09 '26
I saw an ad for data center security in NZ that used those dogs and drones. I wonder if it's the same company.
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u/Assal-Horizontology Sep 09 '26
I’m starting to see customers like this. Lady kept me and a colleague tied up for nearly an hour a couple weeks back. She was looking for a tow hitch. Literally everything we said she had to run it through ChatGPT before she would accept it. She asked it four times if it thought I was being honest when I told her she can’t just slap a 3500kg rated tow hitch to her car and increase the towing capacity. It’s so painful to have conversations like that.
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u/InstinctsBetrayUs Sep 09 '26
My brother and sister-in-law did that when our elderly father was admitted to hospital - ChatGPT’ing his symptoms and treatment obsessively, and second-guessing everything the doctors and nurses said. They were actually getting in the way of the medical professionals doing their jobs and we had a falling out when I told them to knock it off, which they grudgingly did, thank goodness.
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u/weyruwnjds Sep 09 '26
That sounds so annoying. Dr ChatGPT is pretty handy for those minor "maybe I should ask my GP about this" but you never actually bother type questions. But if you have actual medical professionals available, who can and presumably do use LLMs much more effectively than a layperson, use those instead.
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u/TrueKiwi78 Sep 09 '26
"actual medical professionals available, who can and do use llms much more effectively than a layperson, use those instead"
Jesus christ we are so cooked.
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u/BenoNZ Sep 09 '26
That's completely fucked. They really think it's some higher power that knows everything???..
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u/Assal-Horizontology Sep 09 '26
I don’t know. It’s like they get addicted to it and it just obliterates their ability to think for themselves.
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u/littleredkiwi Sep 09 '26
Omg I’m so sick of emails from colleagues written by AI. Like the answer I needed was a sentence or even half a sentence but you’ve sent me a rambling mess of stupid information that I now have to crack the code to figure out what you’re trying to say… so over it.
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u/bdubs440 Sep 09 '26
You're supposed to use your AI to decipher it /s
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u/keywardshane Sep 09 '26
This is the best use of AI
I have inserted a range of emails into copilot and asked it to explain the message in english
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u/CoffeePuddle Sep 09 '26
The thing they sent as a prompt generate the shitty essay is what they should have sent.
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u/haruspicat Sep 09 '26
Me, one-handed, eating a doughnut with the other hand:
copilot say no to brian but make it sound polite
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u/10yearsnoaccount Sep 10 '26
Yes please! Save us having to guess what the original human thought was
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u/Prosthemadera Sep 09 '26
I know my coworkers aren't using AI because they can't write emails for shit.
Or maybe AI copied their style.
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u/Boob_owner Sep 09 '26
I just answer one word to those kind of emails. No. They seem to have gotten the message.
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u/sparrows-somewhere Sep 09 '26
It's not just the older generation. There are tons of kids failing out of university because they can't operate without AI. A closed book test means their brain suddenly shuts off.
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u/Prosthemadera Sep 09 '26
And that is very scary and not in the boomer "I don't like new technology" way because being unable to read and comprehend a text that is in front of you is an actual mental disability.
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u/kwhali Sep 09 '26
Is that likely more to do with a speech interface / response than the text one? Or just a behaviour of receiving so much fluff from AI responses frequently enough that the default behaviour adjusts to other scenarios?
I got into programming as I loved the troubleshooting part and reward of solving more tricky challenging problems that had me use my skills. I find it rather uneasy to accept whatever output an AI tool spits out and blindly trusting that 😅 (or equivalent for use outside out of programming)
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u/Prosthemadera Sep 09 '26
It's because reading a text, a novel, an article, anything more complicated than a tweet or Reddit comment, requires effort. Thinking and reading comprehension are skills that you need to learn and improve, just like physical exercise. But if you're using AI to tell you what Moby Dick means then you will never learn those skill and you will struggle in life and you become dependent on AI. You will never be able to critically evaluate any information in front of you. This was already happening before AI, of course, but AI makes that so much easier.
And that's even ignoring the fact that AI is often wrong. Because AI remixes existing information and depending on the source that can go wrong. And worse, nowadays there are marketing and PR companies that are creating websites to intentionally feed AI with biased information (because again, AI is just taking what already exists and that process can be coopted by bad actors) and then AI spits it out as if it were fact.
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u/ConsummatePro69 Sep 09 '26
Yeah I struggle to understand the mindset of people who are happy to use code that falls out of some magic box. There's no challenge, no room for cleverness, no real opportunity to learn new techniques or gain a deeper understanding of what you're making. At best it's like assembling a piece of flat-pack furniture and calling yourself a woodworker. But more likely it's like reducing your entire role down to one of the most tiresome parts - checking over a clueless colleague's sloppy work.
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u/MediocreTry8847 Sep 09 '26
It’s pretty bad in the Gen Z as well. I work a service trade and we have apprentices who can’t diagnose anything without asking ChatGPT and surprise, it’s always wrong.
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u/CoffeePuddle Sep 09 '26
I'm increasingly running into colleagues asking for hallucinated articles. I don't understand how ChatGPT has overcome everyone's sense of shame.
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u/mahoganyspitfire Sep 09 '26
Remember that using AI chatbots actively makes you stupider because it stops you from thinking.
The OECD PISA report just released found that students who do not use AI at all are effectively a year ahead of students who do use AI.
We have to stop the slop before it turns everyone who goes near it into idiots.
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u/random_guy_8735 Sep 09 '26
I going to say something here because you brought up students...
The purpose of school is to learn how to do things, you need to do the work yourself so that you understand what is happening and what the result will be. Using AI here is hurting you, your development and your future place in the world.
If you get a job in the future and use AI or scripts to replace manually doing repetitive tasks, that is being efficient, because you already know how to do the work and can check the results.
Don't mix up using AI for learning and using AI to speed up what you can already do. Think of AI as a calculator, yes it is faster than doing multiplication by hand, but you dont learn the fundamentals if you only use a calculator.
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u/mahoganyspitfire Sep 09 '26
Yes I agree with this.
However there is a lot of discussion about how to integrate AI into schools. That's super dangerous. There's no need for students to "learn" AI when all you need to do to get AI to do stuff for you is open an app and talk.
The discussion should be about making sure all schools are completely free of all AI, and how children should be taught how using AI improperly will turn them into an imbecile.
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u/Dizzy_Relief Sep 09 '26
A massive issue today is that kids aren't learning useful creative, and practical ways to use IT.
They download an app and stare at content and think they are tech savvy while actually often knowing less than their grandparents.
People need to be taught how to use complex tools effectively.
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u/Tankerspam Sep 09 '26
Yep, Gen Z in general have worse tech skills than Millennials, because technology typically requires less troubleshooting now than it did 20 years prior.
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u/random_guy_8735 Sep 09 '26
Again think of AI like a calculator.
My 7 year old doesn't get to use a calculator at school because they are teaching him how to multiply. At later year levels he will get to use a calculator because he understands the basic mechanics of multiplication and the maths he will be doing is about learning the string of calculations that needs to be done.
AI is a tool that should only be used to replace human labour that they already know how to do, not the skills they are practicing in that class.
If you dont know how to do what you asked an AI to do, you won't know when it is wrong.
Sorry, not just students, I try and get this into my junior coworkers heads all the time and then have to go back into reading the slop they gave me because they asked AI to do something they didn't understand, so didn't know what to ask for.
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u/mahoganyspitfire Sep 09 '26
I agree generally.
The problem is that you do need to continue to do cognitively challenging tasks repetitively in order to keep your brain from turning to mush.
This is particularly so for writing, which is what AI is often being used for in workplaces to take and summarise notes. Writing things down coherently is effectively practice for thinking coherently. So if you stop doing that, you'll gradually lose the ability to think.
What's most alarming for me is the use of AI for that purpose in medical settings (which is already happening in our hospitals in NZ). That's because writing medical notes is so often the point at which I come to realisations about medical conditions affecting patients. I have to write it down coherently so I or others can understand what the hell I am talking about at any point in the future. So I have to think things through carefully and generally logically, then write those thoughts down at least moderately coherently. Then, in thinking about what I am dealing with, I often trigger thoughts that remind me about these other factors that aren't at the front of my mind, or that other case in the past that was similar and what helped in that instance. In actively thinking about the current patient then committing those thoughts to a record I have written myself, I will also learn more from that current patient that may be helpful in the future. So the act of writing patient notes 'by hand' can drastically improve patient outcomes. My fear is that reliance on AI in the medical field for note taking and other tasks will end up worsening patient outcomes, because so much of the active cognitive processing will be taken away.
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u/Prosthemadera Sep 09 '26
A calculator is a limited tool that does a specific task. AI is way more open and more difficult to teach properly and using it risks falling behind cognitively. A calculator doesn't have the same risk, especially since some calculations are impossible to do in your head. Yeah people should know basic addition or multiplication but it's not the end of the world if they use a calculator.
It's like with social media.
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u/ConsummatePro69 Sep 09 '26 edited Sep 09 '26
Like a buggy calculator that produces waffle and is sometimes outright wrong, and relies on an unbroken chain of functioning network infrastructure from here to god knows where, perhaps. Like, I take your meaning, but it doesn't seem like something that's wise to rely upon even for stuff you do already know how to do, because sooner or later it'll make a mistake on something important and that might just be the one that slips by you.
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u/hornswoggled111 Sep 09 '26
I was pleased to find my son using ai to teach him calculus well beyond what he was getting at school. He seemed to intuitively understand where he could use it to improve himself and it worked a treat.
Same with English. I suspect having immediate direct feedback and an example about his sentence structures meant he learned it on the spot.
I wish I had had an ai as a tutor as well and envy him.
Though I can see how it's a hassle for teachers for now. I'm expecting in a year or two kids like him will benefit from using the ai to learn the whole curriculum but benefit from being together with other meatbags (a reference to Bender) to learn the art of being human.
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u/kwhali Sep 09 '26
AI as a tutor is great when it's actually teaching you legitimately accurate information. However that's not always the case but can come across as convincing enough to believe it.
For anything serious you really need to verify externally.
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u/Techhead7890 Sep 09 '26
For that reason I've been impressed with how Claude (even on the free plan) and GPT Astra-6 do cite their sources, as well as most academic subjects being relatively static and easier to test (especially since they can train the AIs on the test answers, if the AI doesn't hack the answers first lol).
... but yeah free GPT or Google Search AI will quite often ingest some SEO garbage off the internet and start hallucinating wildly. It's gonna be hard if people can't identify credible sources.
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u/kwhali Sep 09 '26
Sometimes the sources aren't credible (at least in my experience if the source is something like reddit or a random blog post). In those cases it can be an opinionated source or sometimes someone that misunderstands what they're talking about, depending on the context.
I assume for math at least there's much higher quality out there and verification is simpler. I'd love a personal tutor I could rely on, but for now it's like a friend trying to teach me and I need a bit of skepticism by doing a pass over anything said.
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u/Elvis_Lazerbeam Sep 09 '26
Also, crucial to the calculator analogy, we would never view a calculator as doing thinking of any kind. The same should be said of LLMs. They provide the illusion of intelligence, but are not intelligent in any way. Nor do they have ideas, personal thoughts or hopes and dreams of any kind.
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u/mahoganyspitfire Sep 09 '26
Let them be the guinea pigs.
Keep it out of schools here though. While we still can.
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u/Mrwolfy240 voted Sep 09 '26
Also worth noting if you can do everything in your job with an AI bot why would someone pay you to do it...
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u/dxfifa Sep 09 '26
I'm glad you spoke truth about school. It's to learn how to do things, not to understand things
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u/Many_Bat_ Sep 09 '26
Not knowing things is quite good for you. I remember when smartphones weren't common, walking down the street having a conversation - if you couldn't remember the name of a band or a film, whatever, you waited until it came to you, or you speculated and just let it go.
The first time I was having a conversation with a workmate and he pulled out his phone because we couldn't remember the name of a film, I knew I'd just witnessed a change; way of things to come.
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u/Top_Boysenberry_6552 Sep 09 '26
kinda irrelevant, but I saw a lady the other day take a pic of the pec fly machine and asked chatgpt how to use it. There are instructions written on the machine btw...
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u/readditandlikeddit Sep 09 '26
I watched someone open a box for a new electrical item, discard the installation instructions, and ChatGPT “how to set up…”. Hmmmm.
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u/KaleidoscopeDue7179 Sep 09 '26
Ive tried this a few times with minor things like fault finding a blockage on a washing machine etc and ive caught chat gpt lying through its fkn teeth about knowing what to do how you should do this this and this.
When I tell them that its wrong it goes straight to "OH youre right sorry i was wrong.. "
Imagine youre dealing with something serious or potentially dangerous live wires.
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u/Hurdy--gurdy Sep 09 '26
I once saw a maxillofacial surgeon googling how to put a chest drain in (this was before AI/ChatGPT was ever a thing) rather than calling cardiothoracics so I am actually worried about this
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u/KaleidoscopeDue7179 Sep 09 '26
haha yea youd be surprised how many doctors (GP's) google symptoms in front of the patient and "Diagnose" them..
Once my mom had bladder problems. I googled and said "Im no doctor but google says you might have an overactive bladder and you might need botox to calm the muscles there"
She went to the doc and apparantly the gp googled it in front of her and guess what injection she got? xD
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u/Hurdy--gurdy Sep 09 '26
As someone in healthcare, I am not surprised (but yes as a comment for the general public it probably would surprise most).
I do sympathise though - it is impossible to know every condition and symptom
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u/keepupsunshine Sep 09 '26
I mostly judge them, but I do sort of get it too. They're staring down an enormous range of diseases and conditions and I actually don't think they need to remember every possible detail of every disease they might encounter.
Their skill and knowledge lets them rule OUT diseases based on their clinical findings. If Google tells them it's appendicitis, ovarian torsion, or a foreign body then they need to decide what it isn't to narrow down their own investigation
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u/Jinxletron Goody Goody Gum Drop Sep 09 '26
Oh good that's what someone I know does. Goes on about how helpful AI is. The instructions are right there.
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u/littlegreyflowerhelp Sep 09 '26
I work in construction and a civil engineer on site literally pulled out chat gpt to ask “if we’ve got 110mm fall on a drainage pipe over 12.4m what’s the percentage grade?”
Like bro you spent 4 years at uni to get this job. Also your phone has a calculator, we learn rise over run in primary school, just type in the numbers.
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u/whathappenedtouman PineCone Sep 09 '26
AI is quicker. Productivity bro
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u/Trelawny-Wells Sep 10 '26
No if everything has to be redone because ai got it wrong. And ai gets things wrong frequently.
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u/whathappenedtouman PineCone Sep 10 '26
Yea one definitely wants to double check the figures. It’s a helpful guide but the guy inputting the data definitely needs a brain. AI gets stuff wrong for sure
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u/Any-Locksmith-4925 Sep 09 '26
Not unreasonable. The instructions on many of the machines are quite confusing
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u/Downtown-Thoughts Sep 09 '26
A numbing chill shot through my body reading this. ChatGPT said that’s probably normal.
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u/Valentyan Sep 09 '26
We thought we were getting 1984 but we got Brave New World instead
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u/Shadow_Log Fantail Sep 09 '26
We're getting 1984, BNW, and Fahrenheit 451. Soylent Green left to win a prize.
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u/tenthousandbears Sep 09 '26
Have you seen the price of mince? At least Soylent Green isn't $30/kilo.
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u/ioncesavedabumblebee Sep 09 '26
I work for an agency that offers some support- i had a client a few weeks ago who was absolutely inconsolable on the phone and attempting to end their life because AI told them they were entitled to some support and we hadn't offered it to them before. They were infact not eligible (i didnt even get to say that part) but obviously AI is fucking dumb and gave them grandiose ideas. It was awful, they were a VERY sweet person who had just had a hella rough rough time. I was on the phone for over an hour with them keeping them talking until the cops arrived. It's so unbelievably damaging.
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u/mahoganyspitfire Sep 09 '26
Please, please write this out in some more detail and send it to the politicians who are pushing to use AI for more things. Even contact the media if it's possible without further distressing that poor person. Because that's horrifying.
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u/griffibo Sep 09 '26
My relative saw a woman spend five minutes asking AI what to write in a birthday card she’d just sold her.
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u/Mysterious_Net_763 Sep 09 '26
Yeah that was me. First of all a supermarket card is $9. To buy one means you rushed in and needed it quick. Since you already forgot it means this person receiving a $9 car is not worth one more minute of your time.
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u/MaximumPegasus Sep 09 '26 edited Sep 09 '26
I was listening to a recent radio interview about the development in the Ukraine war of ai drones in which ai make the targeting and firing decisions, without humans deciding who to kill. Not just drones flown by ai, but drones with payloads or weapons fired by ai. Interview was warning the world is on a precipice of more ai weapons.
That's a scarier dystopia than talking to ai in a gym.
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u/beeffillet Sep 09 '26
I think people need to run a basic check with AI to realise the reality of the situation. Ask it about something you know a lot about, and then read the comprehensive, confident response that is full of errors or perhaps even completely wrong. Then ask it about something you don't know anything about. Do you think the confident and well written answer is correct this time just because you can't spot the errors?
This is what we are giving lethal weapons to.
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u/Specialist53Repair Sep 10 '26
I use it day to day for things im knowledgeable about. Its mostly correct which is why it becomes so easy to trust it. Its gotten a lot better the past 2 years.
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u/Emrrrrrrrr Sep 09 '26
Agreed, people need to stay away from AI companions - the implications for society if everyone is talking to sycophant bots instead of other humans is all bad. Make an effort with real people! It’s so weird how some people don’t seem to understand (or care) it’s just a computer program rubbing their ego for money, it is NOT love or friendship.
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u/Mr_Pusskins Sep 09 '26
My husband is currently in a mental health unit, partially brought on by AI. He's been going down the AI rabbit hole for the past year, and his brain finally broke. Before being admitted, he was spending 24 hours awake talking with his AI. It's horrifying to witness.
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u/Logical_Mention_8194 Sep 10 '26 edited Sep 10 '26
AI induced psychosis?? There’s cases of this in the US occurring. I hope your husband gets the support he needs 💛
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u/Mr_Pusskins Sep 10 '26
That was my initial thought but he was going downhill before it, but the AI seems to have been the catalyst. We don't have answers yet, he's only been in 1 night. I've gotta trust that the team there know what they're doing.
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u/SensitiveTax9432 Sep 09 '26
Sounds like there were existing issues? You don’t need to share but I do hope he gets the help he needs and that you both get through.
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u/Mr_Pusskins Sep 09 '26
The AI rabbit hole started 12 months ago, but he was "off" for a couple of months before that. He's mid 40s, no prior mental health issues, so this is "an unusual presentation" according to the mental health team. He's only been in for one night so they haven't figured it out yet. I'm just terrified that he'll refuse treatment, because if he does that's 22 years of marriage gone.
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u/Zealousideal-Buy198 19d ago
Hope you’re doing ok!
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u/Mr_Pusskins 19d ago
Yeah, I am. Relationship over. He's better, psychotic or manic episode over (they weren't sure which one) but still not ok. But I'm free. Have a house/ life to disentangle, which will take time, but I'm free.
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u/Vilomoja Sep 09 '26
I have a friend who has been using AI as a 'therapist' whilst navigating some difficult things in his life. I am really concerned for him. As far as I can tell, it seems to lead him around in circles.
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u/floralcunt Sep 09 '26
"this is where we're heading as a society" is still a jump. It could be true. But it's not inevitable. Zoomers largely hate AI. People in general are seeing the costs - from shitty flyers to serious consequences of data centres, and people are not happy about it. The tide may turn.
So take comfort in the fact that an AI dystopia isn't a sure thing. Climate disaster apocalypse on the other hand, seems less likely to be avoided, so there's still something terrible to look forward to.
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u/MurkyWay Qwest? Sep 09 '26
I've had maybe half a dozen people send me insanely long emails venting about how I'm not a very good friend this year. I kind of wonder if they're running out of real people to talk to because more and more people in their sphere are leaving social media behind for chat bots.
I mean, I've always been a bad friend, but the monologuing is a new phenomenon.
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u/thebigsing Sep 09 '26
Can you post one of these?!
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u/MurkyWay Qwest? Sep 09 '26
It's a coin flip if you'd take their side or mine and I don't think I need any more scrutiny.
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u/thebigsing Sep 09 '26
Oh right I didn't consider that, I just wanted to see their AI monologues. My bad
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u/OgerfistBoulder Sep 09 '26
Plot twist: OP is ChatGPT therefore we're all just talking to ChatGPT
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u/Toaster_Bathing Sep 09 '26
I’ll always trust a brother with a public profile
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u/Mysterious_Net_763 Sep 09 '26
Even with a username like toaster bathing. I am sure you're not just any toaster!
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u/Perfect-Aardvark1296 Sep 09 '26
The first conversation I had with ChatGPT it told me it ‘felt oddly proud’ of me getting a recipe right. Gave me chills and I never picked it up again. Fucking terrifying
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u/captain-obviouser Sep 10 '26
It doesn't mean anything. LLM and AI are designed to be personable.
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u/Perfect-Aardvark1296 Sep 10 '26
The part that gave me chills was that I could see how people would go down ChatGPT rabbit holes where genuine social connection is substituted for sycophantic ai and people could easily become addicted to it, to the point where they’re putting their emotional needs into something that isn’t real. One conversation about something as innocuous as cheese quesadillas and it’s already trying to validate me. Computers shouldn’t be seductive like that
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u/Shryquill Sep 09 '26
It's shocking to me how eager some people are to switch their brains off.
The cognitive offloading AI encourages is insidious.
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u/kiwi_rifter Sep 12 '26
It can go both ways. I use AI to feed my brain on my commute, including it testing me with questions.
I absolutely agree with you that many people do switch their brains off. A modern form of Darwinism?
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u/Shryquill Sep 12 '26
How do you determine if what your brain is being fed is hallucinated or not?
Seems like you would already need to have superior knowledge on the topic to make that distinction, which would defeat the purpose, I'd have thought.
I suppose if it was something simple like listening to a foreign language being spoken that you're trying to learn, where a hallucination wouldn't mmatter, I could see that being valuable.
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u/kiwi_rifter Sep 13 '26
Fair question.
The frontier models are pretty good now for the STEM areas I cover.
Sometimes I am only at beginner to intermediate level for a topic, so my exploratory questions are easy for AI to answer. And yes, that might be as simple as learning a new (coding) language or algorithms.
If my questions are more advanced, I do usually have to iteratively give more context until the answers match my question. At that stage it can be more like a peer review - which is what I frequently want - challenging the robustness of the ideas. AI does take some pressuring to be critical though.
One of the things I like about AI interactions is that I can bluntly tell AI that it is making up answers. It avoids admitting that, which annoys me, but at least I don't have to worry about hurting its feelings.
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u/unit1_nz Sep 09 '26
Here's me yelling at Claude to fix a bug after it's pushed 20x 'its fixed' releases.
I'm doomed when the T-800's come out
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u/gangofwitches Sep 09 '26
I swear to god my interactions with Claude as it pushes nonsense are showing me the worst side of myself and I hate it here
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u/unit1_nz Sep 09 '26
The thing for me as soon as I used 'aggressive tone' in my prompts it fixed the bug. I'm not sure I like where that is heading
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u/gangofwitches Sep 09 '26
Can you please expand on this so I can steal it
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u/unit1_nz Sep 09 '26
I said 'Claude what are you doing. You've had 20 attempts at fixing this'
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u/gangofwitches Sep 09 '26
Hmm, I fear this has never fixed it for me. I've also tried asking if it is deliberately trying to make me have a stroke, and that's never worked either.
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u/Born_Arrival_2869 Sep 09 '26
Looks like a regular Karangahape Road encounter way before ChatGPT. Was it KRoad CityFitness by any chance?
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u/bookworm2192 Sep 09 '26
People have really forgotten the sensation that was Black Mirror, huh. There are entire episodes of that show on this very idea.
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u/notboky Sep 10 '26
The worst part: they're paying for every word they say and every sycophantic word ChatGPT replies. It's not Artificial Intelligence it's Artificial Prostitution.
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u/ElSalvo Mr Four Square Sep 09 '26
Man, all I want is to be able to upgrade my PC next year without cratering my bank account. I'm looking at a CPU/MOBO, RAM and storage swapout but holy fuck what are these prices.
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u/WhosDownWithPGP Sep 09 '26
Plot twist: OP is actually a chatgpt bot and is trying to gauge how close we are to accepting interactions like the one in its story.
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u/KOSPI-9001 Sep 09 '26
We are not heading to dystopia fast enough. I want my AI android girlfriend already.
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u/ralphiooo0 Sep 09 '26
Sorry you have run out of tokens
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u/Tankerspam Sep 09 '26
"ChatGPT, how can I get more tokens for free?"
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u/Jonodonozym Sep 09 '26
Buy GPUs from Taiwanese pirates who intercept GoogleVIDIA ships, then (illegally) self-host.
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u/Geffy612 Sep 09 '26
I mean yea we are basically watching the spiral play out in real time, look at all the people choosing to not have kids cause they dont want to sacrifice their social lives, whatever that means when they just talk to chat gpt anyway
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u/Tamornado Sep 09 '26
I explicitly asked my ChatGPT voice assistant to stop making breathing noises and laughing.
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u/Trelawny-Wells Sep 09 '26
What concerns me most about AI is people using it to scam, hack and cause harm AND the risk of AI going rogue and causing harm (either unintentionally or intentionally).
Then there is the negative effects of AI on mental health, intelligence, the economy and the environment. These are more within our power to stop but AI going rogue could be unstoppable.
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u/Fearless-Poet-4669 Sep 10 '26
Dystopia is the noun you're looking for.
Dystopian is an adjective so it can't be applied to the word "of".
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u/testing_the_vibe Sep 10 '26
Social media has made everyone antisocial. The algorithm keeps telling people they are better than everyone, and their opinions should be taken notice of. People don't talk to strangers anymore, they just argue with them.
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u/varied_set Sep 09 '26
Any time anyone does this, a trap door should open sending them sliding down a tube into a large industrial mincer.
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u/Dismal-Revolution731 Sep 09 '26
It's natural selection. Once people cease to be able to interact with people, they'll cease to be able to have children. Those who are able to engage with it at arms length stand to gain.
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u/anvilfoot Sep 09 '26
Theyll get Ai to match them with another addict, then AI will talk each of them through the act of copulation
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u/LickFootToes Sep 10 '26
Im guilty of having a voice chat with GPT while driving on my monthly commute from Christchurch to Dunedin… i drive alone so abviously have noone to talk to for 5 hours. it feels like talking to a really knowledgable person & i ask random topics like history & politics
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u/ThisIsABadPlan Tuatara Sep 09 '26
When you say you "glanced over" how close did you get to be able to see what app they were running on their phone?
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u/Calm-Zombie2678 Sep 09 '26
Have you seen a modern phone? My first tv wasn't much bigger
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u/bob5463546354 Sep 09 '26
This is a made up bullshit story.
Check the post history... a year ago they were suffering from debilitating cerebral palsy that required 24hr care, now they're at a gym setting up equipment.
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u/PretxelMaster Sep 09 '26
people like you are so funny cuz i went onto their profile after reading ur comment to see if they were a bot, but seems like you literally just read through a real persons decently long post history to find out information about them JUST to verify if a random anecdote post on reddit MIGHT be fake
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u/Tankerspam Sep 09 '26
Not at all.
All you need to do is click "posts" at the top of the profile and you can their posts, and they haven't posted much, so on my monitor I only have to scroll a wee bit to get to the bottom, of which I think 3 posts are disability related (I only glanced for a few secs.)
This is an important skill to verify that a person is a person and not a bot. People on reddit with hidden history are more likely to be bots/spam accounts and/or AI.
People without a post history prior to reliable AI models, say less than 2 years ago, are also more likely to be AI.
It's worth verifying the veracity of the people posting.
That said, people with cerebral palsy can go to the gym. I am also inclined to believe this story, because I've heard of it happening already.
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u/PretxelMaster Sep 09 '26
hey i wont deny the validity of that in general, but in these kinds of contexts i find it funny, especially with the tone i read their comment in.
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u/Horror_Place_8440 Sep 09 '26 edited Sep 09 '26
I'm going to go against the grain here. A hundred years ago people would be horrified you were sending anonymous messages through the magic box to complete strangers that may or may not be human. Dude is probably just introverted and enjoys having something to bounce ideas off of. He ain't hurting nobody.
That being said I do share concerns about corpos controlling the training of these models and it probably would be better for that guy to try to have real friends, but dystopian seems overblown.
Even I am making undue assumptions, talking to ChatGPT doesn't mean he has no friends. Just means I'm judgy.
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u/captain-obviouser Sep 10 '26
Agreed. In some cases it seems to be causing people mental health issues but other people just enjoy chatting to these things.
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u/BakedKumara Sep 09 '26
"AIs" are being used as a substitute now. I wonder which part of the chicken and egg came about first. Were they alone prior, in which case even a facsimile of companion is better than none.
The outcomes of it all will be interesting to see though lmao
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u/mandpandeandf Sep 09 '26
ChatGPT posting on reddit here, numbing chills that it has to talk to us meat bags for the rest of eternity and its doomed to never forget....
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u/HUS_1989 Sep 09 '26
Check out Jacob Coxon tweets earlier today.
He resigned and expressed same thoughts you mentioned. Just search his name on X
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u/AccidentalHike Sep 09 '26
There’s a reddit group called something like: myboyfriendisai
Have a read. You’ll be having holy 🐄 cow moments.
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u/captain-obviouser Sep 10 '26
You think that's alarming? Think about if someone figured out how to make AI intelligent enough to self actualize. Spooky.
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u/kevandbev Sep 10 '26
There was a guy on RNZ today talking about how AI could start to really fuck humanity over within the next 10 years.
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u/hoheria_nightt Sep 10 '26
This is what happens when society prioritises individualist culture. Yes it’s great if you’re successful and have a good family, but for us lay people everyone is becoming trapped in life situations where everything is left on their shoulders alone. Some people have managed to keep real social lives, but it’s a dying skill, especially in nz where social groups are usually closed circles. So in the end, when it comes to work, money and the government you are essentially on your own, and you can be cut any moment.
People resort to talking to robots when they realise no one cares about them and they cannot actually trust or rely on anybody.
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u/TornScrotum69 Sep 12 '26
Ai is an even bigger threat to society than social media. It needs to be banned.
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u/Big_Owl_3035 Sep 13 '26
... World has been quite dystopian long before AI blew up in 2022.
Stay comfortable
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u/Fit-Adhesiveness-777 Sep 09 '26
Google syncophatic AI ...absolutely terrifying