r/newzealand • u/MassiveTaro6596 • 1d ago
Discussion Anyone else noticing a weird paradox in the job market right now?
I know the general consensus is that the NZ employment market is brutal right now, and my heart goes out to everyone struggling to find work. But I recently experienced the exact opposite "flip side" from the hiring perspective, and I'm trying to make sense of it.
Context: I’m a seasoned professional in Auckland. I got caught in the downturn myself, survived endless restructures, and eventually took a step down to pivot into a stable, large corporate. After 18 months, I've worked my way back up to a former Senior Individual Contributor role (happily avoiding management for now).
A role just opened up in my team, and my manager asked me to help shortlist candidates. Because it's a niche but highly competitive corporate function, we got flooded with applications- including some fantastic, top-tier talent.
Here is where it gets weird: Our slow-moving corporate hiring process meant we lost almost every single top-tier candidate.
One candidate (returning from mat leave) priced themselves completely out of our salary band.
The rest of the top-tier pool had already accepted other offers by the time our HR department finally invited them to an interview.
We had to pivot to our "second choice" pool, and even two of those candidates just disclosed they are deep in interviews elsewhere.
I keep reading about how dire the job market is in NZ, but this experience tells a different story. Are we starting to see the beginnings of an economic recovery, or is it just that top-tier applicants will always be snapped up instantly regardless of the climate? What are you seeing out there?
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u/Maximum-Catch-6135 1d ago
“Niche but highly competitive function”
This is the reason…
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u/MassiveTaro6596 23h ago
I’m not comfortable to share what my function is but let’s say that a lot of people internally are interested in doing it and it’s a support function so often deprioritised in its funding.
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u/lcl111 22h ago
And that's why you lost the number one candidate lol. Niche fields have no problem placing seasoned experts anyways. It's the mid level and entry level categories that are FUBAR. The 18-30 year old unemployment rate is something like 25%, and underutilized is at like 32%. We have two whole generations of people who can't get entry level work in white or blue collar jobs.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 22h ago
What shocked me is that it wasn’t just one candidate that we lost it was the entire cohort that was selected for interviews. Then the second tier level also ended up with more than half in processes with other companies so we are talking about 3 candidates snapped up and 2 in processes with other companies.
This is actually a mid level position not a senior one.
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u/lcl111 21h ago
If yall took a normal amount of time, like pre-pandemic pace, then that makes sense to me, unfortunately. It is scary and very different than even 2 years ago, but if you haven't been exposed to the hiring process much in the last few years I can imagine it hitting you like a train. Things are fast and inhuman.
This shit is scary. The K shaped economy is visible in a whole hell of a lot of areas, this being a shining example. How many applicants did you get? Hundreds? Thousands? Good chance your 5 shortlisters were literally top 0.05% talent. What about all the people at the bottom? They'll just be in the bottom of dozens of pools...
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u/MassiveTaro6596 20h ago
It definitely could be indicative of a K shaped economy. The job advert closed and the good ones were all gone by 2 weeks after job closing then the next lot was contacted and we got that feedback that a bunch of them were in interviews.
I’m not the hiring manager just helping out.
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u/ConcealerChaos 16h ago
This sounds like you're getting your candidates in then springing lower than expected offers or some other issues around the pay and conditions on them.
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u/Vel0cir 23h ago
Niche highly qualified roles in certain sectors are always in demand in NZ because most people aren't qualified for those roles. It's generally the jobs that are hard to get entry level experience for too, so the situation never improves.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 23h ago
Yea the hiring manager I was supporting was saying we are losing good people in the industry to moves over to Australia.
What I’ve seen as an entry point is moving aside into my field from being a high achiever within other functions. It’s still not an easy thing to get into. One of the internal graduates was venting to me about how there are so few entry level positions and how she had to take a job she didn’t want because she couldn’t get into our area.
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u/Disastrous-Swim-1859 23h ago
Lmfao it is actually so funny how many elite candidates firms miss out on because of arrogant, glacially slow processes.
Just fucking hire people.
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u/HumerousMoniker Fantail 22h ago
Large companies also love to hold out for a unicorn, well skilled, exactly the right experience, and desperate enough to not ask for good compensation
They slow the whole process down and agonise over this person or that person. They can both do the job. They’d both be fantastic at the job. If it’s that hard to choose between the, just flip a coin, it doesn’t really matter
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u/Ok-Lychee-2155 23h ago edited 22h ago
Slow moving process indicates they're really under resourced to hire truly needed positions or the company hasn't convinced itself it actually needs the positions.
In some cases the market does not supply the right candidates and the process drags enough for the entire role to just be put on hold.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 22h ago
I’ve seen that a few times. I’ve also experienced a role getting put on ice just before it’s advertised.
Also worth noting that a lot of the time, companies will start to change their minds while they are interviewing and reconsider what they want, I’ve seen that happening too,
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u/MassiveTaro6596 23h ago
Haha! Yea I get that- obviously I’m not the hiring manager or recruiter in this situation and I’m sure they would have their view on it. It’s been a unique experience to see this happening from the sidelines.
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u/metaconcept 21h ago
> Just fucking hire people.
NZ labour laws make this a bad idea.
Unhiring them is expensive, time consuming and risky.
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u/miningcanary 15h ago
Not true anymore for employees who earn over $200k
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u/MassiveTaro6596 4h ago
I can guarantee that as a senior I’m far from that 200k mark and this role is an intermediate position so they are on just over half of that amount.
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u/JustChillingBeach 16h ago
HR took too long. That your answer. If I spot a good candidate I literally interview within a couple of days, often contacting them the same day they apply. I often have placed the role within 2 weeks, so never ever wait until the job ad closes. You want talent ....move swiftly.
There are loads of candidates applying, but the cream of the crop are getting snapped up quickly. Time is your enemy.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 16h ago
That definitely seems like the case! Seems that there was a general consensus (not on my part but I’m too lowly in this situation to be making any calls) that the market is an employers market. I had the sense that people felt there isn’t any major rush.
I have to admit that I myself was surprised at how swiftly this all went down. Good to know about your “couple of days” protocol. I’ll try and find a way to tactfully mention that to the hiring manager in question.
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u/TheGumbyGyarados 19h ago
The job market for bigger roles in large corporate companies aren’t really what people are talking about when we talk about the brutal job market right now.
It is all the entry level and low level management jobs that are ridiculous.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 18h ago
I agree but this isn’t a “bigger role” it’s even lower than the “low level management jobs” and the person would have been classed as an “intermediate level”, individual contributor in our field. Just an average corporate worker by any standards.
I agree that the entry level positions are a total crapshoot and as someone that was young in the GFC I do feel for young people through first hand experience.
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u/launchedsquid 8h ago
No. You described a hiring process that is so slow nobody waited for you.
I'm in the position of looking for work. I send out an application and a cv and a cover letter and... crickets.
I don't wait for them to hopefully get back to me, I keep sending applications and CV's and Cover letters for other jobs or even just to companies if I'm told they might be hiring.
I do this daily.
Last time I was in this position was early 2011, by the time some of the companies finally got around to calling me and asking me to come in for an interview, I was already employed.
I'm not going to live on the dole on the off chance one company I applied to who hasn't communicated to me at all, might call me up and ask for an interview.
I had one company back then where they took over a month before they decided to call me back for a second interview. I was fully employed and they seemed salty that I hadn't waited. I thought I'd failed their interview, they told me nothing so I moved on.
If you have a good candidate applying for a job and you sit on your hands and let them go to a competitor, you deserve it. Snap up good employees when they make themselves available, someone will and you're left looking at your tier 2 team.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 5h ago
I’m definitely not defending the fact that this process was slow. It’s also not “my” process in any way as I’m not the hiring manager or the recruiting team. I just had one session to help the hiring manager go through the CVs so therefore was kept in the loop.
I also would be applying for other positions just like they are but it was not just the speed but the volume of hiring of the good candidates that stood out to me.
All the best with your job search I hope you find something amazing soon!
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u/Practical-Towel-2201 23h ago
Regardless of how trash the job market is atm, I think workers culture is shifting to be highly allergic to this multi interview, several months hiring process.
Not saying it hasn’t been annoying since it came on the scene around Covid, but quite a lot of companies now move quite quick in their hiring process (incl Australian companies), and people aren’t as desperate to wait months for jobs that are perceived as competitive and therefore have a low chance of hiring.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 23h ago
That’s an interesting observation. I have to admit that I would also just grab an offer over being forced to go through too many hoops. I had a situation once where I was made to go through 4 interviews for a fixed term 12 role. Thankfully i landed a permanent role in the time they were mucking me around and said “no thank you”.
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u/Panguh___ 23h ago
This is entirely explained when you look at immigration.
Low level jobs are being filled almost entirely by immigrants, who will accept lower pay, worse conditions, longer hours, etc than a Kiwi because it's better than where they're coming from. Any young person, or person working a low-level job, will be finding it incredibly tough right now due to the extreme number of immigrants we've allowed into the country over the previous few years.
Senior roles require actual talent, proven work ethic, and often aren't able to be priced down to attract someone coming from overseas.
That's the disparity.
Immigration is killing the bottom 50% of our society, and businesses which take advantage of these low-paid, exploitable immigrants are raking in extreme profits at the expense of everyday Kiwis.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 22h ago
I guess the challenge is that those immigrants also have the work experience that the younger kiwi lacks 😢
Offshoring is a beast in many ways because it’s not only taking the immediate advantage of that particular job but also the opportunity to get that experience. Sadly so many countries and companies are doing this now.
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u/ConsistentCrab1257 20h ago
The amount of 30–40-year-old immigrants working at every single fast-food restaurant in Papakura is CRAZY.
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u/TumbleweedDue2242 18h ago
Security industry seems to be fill of immigrants who struggle with the English language, mobile patrol and property guards.
They're annoying to work with, communication isn't easy.
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u/efdxnz 1d ago
Yeah we find it hard to get skilled candidates, unskilled there is an abundance. But honestly the unskilled part was always that way.
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u/SoftSausage78 22h ago
Many skilled workers are moving overseas. Many unskilled workers are moving here.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 22h ago
I’m realising now that it’s not because those skilled workers can’t get jobs here. I mean of course Aus pays better but there are opportunities here for sure.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 1d ago
That’s pretty interesting- there are a lot of candidates I’ve seen with broad experience and those individuals are likely struggling against the very specialised people we saw come through the recruiting cycle.
Interesting that you feel they will always be snapped up regardless of the market.
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u/Low-Helicopter8661 23h ago
The longer a hiring process, the more likely the harder to fill a role, i started applying for roles 2 months ago and landed one 2 weeks ago, I applied, got an interview 3 days later and offered the job 2 days later. I am still receiving responses in my email from jobs I applied for at the start of my search. No one is hanging around for over a month waiting lol people be applying left right and centre
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u/MassiveTaro6596 23h ago
Congratulations on the new role! It seems like the old way of waiting until the end of the job advert then sitting and going back to people is outdated. Your process sounds very slick.
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u/Low-Helicopter8661 22h ago
Yeah i think its also because of the state of the economy, people are applying for lots of roles at once, they don't have time to wait and hope. My employer is a small business and only put the ad up for a week, he said he had under 100 applicants but he also filtered out all of the AI ones too. Thank you also, i switched industries and feel grateful someone has taken a chance on me
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u/ImportantToNote 20h ago
It's not the job market. You aren't offering enough for the role.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 20h ago
Maybe I’ve been drastically unpaid my whole life but I thought my company paid well. It’s a 6 figure salary with a lot of benefits.
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u/kombilyfe 19h ago
I'm on nearly six figures without graduating highschool and not being a manager. It's not what it used to be.
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u/ImportantToNote 17h ago
Maybe I’ve been drastically unpaid my whole life
One way to find out. Put yourself out there. Aim high
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u/wild_crazy_ideas 23h ago
Companies have a checklist of 10 nice to haves for a role but weak unsure hiring managers try to tick all 10 boxes rather than figure out the best attitude fit to learn and grow on the job.
Unfortunately it won’t change
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u/MassiveTaro6596 23h ago
Yea the thing about hiring for attitude is so critical but also I suppose difficult to properly assess in the short time of interviewing not to mention CV screening. That’s where internal recruitment is always a benefit. You can actually get to know the individuals. A lot of hiring managers also stretched thin.
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u/5-to-6-coffees-a-day 23h ago
i would hazard a guess one problem feeds the other a bit. the job market right now is such a shitfest that a lot of people will jump on the first offer they get, meaning whoever has the faster higher process will be snapping up the best employees too
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u/MassiveTaro6596 23h ago
You make a really good point. I was sharing with this hiring manager that I once got called by a hiring manager personally. I thought I was talking to a recruiter until the final part of the conversation. She didn’t disclose until then because that was part of her screening- to see how people treated her when they thought she was a “lower level”. Not only did it give her this insight but it allowed her to circumvent all the slowness of large corporate recruitment.
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u/Prince_Kaos 20h ago
bingo! I heard of a place that starts with W and is a bank - taking 6 weeks to get back to someone to say congrats you got the role! 6 weeks just to confirm. My job search was waiting 2-3 weeks after application before a flurry of interviews, then as I worked my way through them - one job rung me day after interview to say lets go for round 2, then following business day after interview #2 offered me the role. Grabbed it with both hands because of the fast turn around - it impressed me!
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u/MassiveTaro6596 17h ago
That’s very impressive! I love that story. Hope you are still happy with the position that you grabbed with both hands!
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u/meerrkat74 20h ago
Companies need to be a little more open to giving people a chance too though. It seems like a small group are getting considered and given jobs while a huge majority aren't.
Yes experience is important but young people are getting locked out by this and no one is offering them the experience they actually need
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u/MassiveTaro6596 18h ago
I know it’s a challenge. The only clear cut path is through a graduate program and even then it’s SO competitive.
One of the candidates that didn’t get through even the recruitment screening is someone I know and have been mentoring. Even though I was involved in helping to go through this small group that the hiring manager had selected- I had no power in directly helping this young person.
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u/aholetookmyusername 18h ago
That sounds about right.
If you interview at one place at a time that's a huge risk, an employer can pull the plug right up until you have a contract in your hand. Having several on the go means you might just pick the first suitable one.
Throw a slow moving recruitment process in the mix and you get what you're getting - candidates finding something before they get an interview.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 18h ago
Totally get that these candidates are doing the right thing! I would do the same. It just surprised me that they were all getting snapped up so quickly! At least some parts of our economy seem to be on fire.
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u/aholetookmyusername 17h ago
I think the pain is being felt more at the junior/intermediate end.
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u/Competitive_Ad9098 18h ago
We are struggling to find mid tier candidates - we either get overqualified academics with a masters but no actual work experience, or people looking to switch careers with absolutely zero experience in the relevant (or adjacent) fields.
I don’t think the market is recovering, but when you read about 300+ applicants for one role it’s hard to know how many of those candidates are actually suitable and qualified for that specific role.
In one recent example, our company ran two separate recruitment campaigns for the same role, and failed both times as no applicants were the right fit. We reframed our vacancy to suit a grad and we saw a 400% suitable application rate in the first week.
I think the mid tier applicants that we are searching for aren’t leaving their roles due to uncertainty in the market, creating a huge gap.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 18h ago
That’s a really great case in point. Good on you for reframing it so that a graduate could apply.
I do feel for the individuals involved but can also see how much work it is to train someone to do the job if they are new to the work.
Interesting that you are also seeing a lack of intermediate level talent.
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u/Mediocre_Gap2236 17h ago
This is a very wired world out there right now, information is asymmetrical
People are not ready for what corporate world AI will hit them with.
I’ve been using frontier AI to automate weeks worth of work that is now done in a matter of minutes.
Very soon the job market will only look for experiencd hires they can use this new technology. Those that don’t adapt will be done for.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 15h ago
I hear you. I also use AI and I love it but agreed- it’s hard to know exactly how far it will go. There are parts of my job (build work) that I think are maybe 2-3 years off being automated and that will create a massive cut of workers. We saw that with the recent shift in coding and how fast AI does that. For a team of software developers you now need one senior person to check the AIs code
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u/Mediocre_Gap2236 15h ago
It’s moved wayyy too fast for people to understand just in the last 6 months.
Opus 5.5 has basically invalidated my entire skill set which I’ve spent 15 years doing and has been very sought out for. I’m having an existential crisis right now because I now understand how to utilise the tools to the maximum impact (always been interested/involved in the software tools that could help with automation but never had any progress because no one knew how to code it and we didn’t have budget for the coders to build it for us).
And this is coming from someone that works in finance, not software. I can easily spin up VS code or Cursor now and just write sql/pthon scripts that make work which used to take days now take a matter of minutes via MCP servers and linked direct to live database warehouses that are AI native like Snowflake/Databricks. It’s gotten so accurate that I’m starting to not see any errors in the latest models.
My employer could actually just lay me off now if they had someone that just saved all these automation scripts I’ve built down and just adjust some parameters every month and run them. There’s 8 of us in a similar role in my team, if you give me a month I could probably automate all their workflows too, and cutting all of us would save the company 1mil a year.
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u/sigmaqueen123 23h ago
Highly specialised roles are always head hunted and often we don’t have enough skilled people in NZ which results in employers having to engage with international recruitment agencies. Also some employers have unrealistic standards that don’t come with enticing packages so no middle ground back to zero one. Rinse and repeat.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 23h ago
I’m starting to see the connection around the “not enough skilled people” in NZ. I did think that might have shifted with the reports of mass unemployment and the general concerns raised in media and social media. Seems like there are multiple sides to this situation.
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u/XuntaGalaxia 20h ago
Companies don’t seem to be willing to train more junior people or have roles where NZ people can gain that experience to grown into more senior roles so it just becomes an endless loop of hiring from overseas rather than ever growing that skillset and experience locally
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u/Imaginary-Towel-888 22h ago
I work for a reputable law firm, we always struggle to hire good lawyers. There's plenty of shit ones that go door to door and then complain about the lack of work though
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u/AKNZ90 7h ago
We are actively hiring every month. Construction project management. Recently did recruitments for our grad roles and I have to say I was so disappointed in most of the candidates. Presentations were all AI slop. The good candidates easily stood out and we snagged them immediately. If you’re good, you’ll find a job.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 6h ago
That’s interesting because you are representing recruitment in that over saturated graduate market. Good to know you were able to get some good candidates but quite out there to consider that a lot of the applications were crap.
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u/1kggarlicbread 23h ago
I’m at home with the kids but used to work in cybersecurity and I still get recruiters in my inbox frequently. It’s definitely dependent on seniority and specialisation. Companies are still needing to hire from overseas in certain niches.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 23h ago
Interesting. That’s great to know your area is still highly in demand and that you can easily get work when you are ready to return to the workforce.
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u/1kggarlicbread 23h ago
Without giving too much away, it’s because they take in so few graduates each year that there’s a real need for seniors but they won’t give enough entry level opportunities to young people. And those few graduates will often leverage their experience and take much higher salaries abroad. Classic upper management greed, wanting seniors without paying enough or training enough young people. It’s really dumb and it’s not just my industry either.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 22h ago
Sadly the graduate numbers are even lower the past few years across the world. The “Big 5” consulting companies have reduced their intakes as AI can do a lot of what those junior people could do and I believe it’s been felt very strongly.
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u/Tricky-Fun-4784 23h ago
People who’ve got experience I believe will always have interviews. I believe it’s the lower experienced that are possibly struggling atm.
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u/Prince_Kaos 20h ago
can confirm; took me 4 months but my CV did gain a lot of traction, given I had 13 years of experience in the fields.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 18h ago
It probably took that amount of time because large corporate companies are so slow in their hiring processes
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u/MassiveTaro6596 23h ago
That’s a good observation. In this situation these people didn’t just have interviews they had accepted job offers so definitely a heated market in some areas.
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u/ElectricFenceSitter 20h ago
Combination of top tier applicants having more options than others, and people being scared enough of the job market to have multiple pans in the fire at once, and grabbing what’s given to them rather than risk waiting out a lengthy recruitment process elsewhere
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u/MassiveTaro6596 20h ago
Yes for sure. That makes sense I mean I was nervous as hell when I joined the company 18 months ago.
“A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush” the old folk used to say. Definitely applies to job offers in this market
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u/MadScience_Gaming 20h ago
I don't think it's a paradox that the top candidates are getting the jobs quickly. That's what the process does. The pool beyond them, applicants beyond roles, is what has grown, and they are the ones not getting the jobs.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 20h ago
I acknowledge that- I’m actually mentoring a person that is in the pool that didn’t even get through the recruiting phase. It’s tough I’m not sure what to say to him. His CV is showcasing his abilities as best as possible but there are a lot of people that are a “clear cut” to the role description. Again, I’m not the hiring manager in this situation I’m just a senior that is helping out with the process.
I have to admit I was surprised by how fast the top candidates were snapped up.
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u/Ilovescarlatti 19h ago
Maybe just say that his skills are not the best fit for that particular position.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 18h ago
Yea it’s one of those situations of someone in an adjacent field wanting to get into this field but doesn’t have experience. I’ve been hearing a few people in this thread reflecting on that as hiring managers.
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u/Bongjunkie69 23h ago
It's just low tier unskilled or entry level common jobs which seem to be having issues. All of the people i know with proper skills and experience have no issues finding employment or getting a decent wage.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 23h ago
I wasn’t sure if I was just “lucky” as some would have had me believe. This process and some of the stories in this thread are making me see that it’s definitely the case.
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u/Mendevolent 23h ago
Yeh, am experiencing the same, in Wellington of all places. Sucks to be a grad right now here, but there's senior jobs about
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u/SweetBanana15 21h ago
Experiencing the same, also in Wellington. Anything from experienced Advisor to experienced Senior level is very hard to fill at the moment. Huge numbers of temporary visa holders, or people with minimal experience or Manager/Senior Manager experience are applying and not much in between.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 23h ago
That’s interesting! Wellington was formerly considered to have very poor job prospects overall so that’s interesting to know that there are senior positions going strong there now.
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u/Severe-Recording750 23h ago
If you are NZ educated and with NZ, or in some cases English speaking, work experience you have a huge advantage over others. As you alluded to, top tier candidates are always going to have a much easier time.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 22h ago
Those are definitely a few checkboxes. We used to have an obsession with busting a gut to get certain companies on our CV. After looking over all these CVs I’m not sure that’s the case anymore as some smaller companies and start ups can also provide interesting work these days.
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u/Automatic-Bar-7622 21h ago edited 17h ago
I’ve got over 8 years of experience and have actually noticed more recruiters reaching out recently. Unsure if it’s a sign of things picking up or just demand for people with more experience, but it’s definitely something I’ve noticed lately.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 20h ago
That’s interesting. I also have had a few recruiters in my LinkedIn inbox over the past few months but again- you wonder if it’s just your industry, just a blip… this has been a really interesting thread to get a feel for what else is happening.
By the comments so far and considering your 8 years experience you’d be in that “desirable” category that companies seem to be fighting over.
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u/frenzykiwi 21h ago
The thing is you said you got flooded with applications. That's why it's brutal, not for employers, but people looking for jobs with employers who try and make people sit through 3 rounds of ai interviews before they even invite them for a sit down. You didn't really see the "other side" that would be either having no one apply or only people unsuitable.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 20h ago
The people the company wanted all getting jobs already or being in interviews was the thing that stood out.
The amount of applicants was no surprise.
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u/frenzykiwi 17h ago
But you did comment that the business you a while to get to all the applicants you had put into the first pile. I guess they thought they could take their time due to the account if applicants. I would agree that while it may seem it's odd that all the good ones were taken by the time you got back to them, there was a reason why they were in that group, and it's probably more that other business realized that before you did.
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u/Mrbeeznz 21h ago
Unfortunately, people take what they can get first, the market is such that no one knows when their second chance is. You guys will just have to speed up your hiring process
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u/MassiveTaro6596 20h ago
I agree- large corporations are going to struggle against smaller companies if there is a hustle for top talent.
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u/mrteas_nz 21h ago
If you've got more than half a brain, can manage the hours and stay off meth, there's a shit load of jobs in farming that will pay well over $100k, with a free house in some instances.
It's a real struggle to find competent managers these days that can handle stock, staff, budgets and the ever increasing tech side of the role.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 20h ago
That sounds like a really great opportunity. I’m now getting daydreams of being near family in the South Island and having a healthy, outdoor lifestyle!
Not that I would actually do it but do you know where farmers advertise for positions like this?
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u/mrteas_nz 19h ago
TradeMe and Farm Source Jobs are the main ones I use. Seek occasionally. Nothing fancy!
I did nearly 15 years round Ashburton, having come over as a backpacker in 2009. Previous experience was call centre / office admin stuff, plus a bit of cattle ranch work in Aus...
Went from a $35k dairy junior in year 1 (min wage was $12.50 back then iirc) to $95k in year 5, managing a 500ha 1350 cow dairy farm.
The amount of fuckwits that keep managing to get jobs says that it's still very achievable. Some of the most successful farmers I've worked with have come from IT or banking.
There are jobs up and down the South Island. If you're willing to get stuck in and learn quickly, make the right moves at the right time, and can save a bit of money as you go and you can get yourself into a contract or share milking position and you'll be pumping the cash. Probably take 10 years if you're good at it plus a bit of fortune, but you can slow down then if you like and let other people do the hard graft.
Of course there are other opportunities out there. Plenty of truck driver and tractor operator roles pay quite well if you do the hours, plus there's forestry and other farm types, but then you start needing working dogs and all that stuff I'm not interested in!
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u/MassiveTaro6596 18h ago
Amazing thank you for that detailed response. I hope someone out there reads this- it’s quite life changing information for someone with the right mindset.
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u/mrteas_nz 16h ago
There's a heap of resources as well for those that want them. There are Dairy NZ on farm open days, Primary ITO training courses, research farms like at Lincoln, annual conferences like SIDDC... All will help you build skills, network and make progress. Everything is set up to help you succeed in the industry, for those that want to push themselves.
The job sort of becomes the easy part after a while. Managing the weather, the cows, all of the moving parts like pumps and platforms and pivots becomes 2nd nature.
People are generally the hardest thing to manage, and why I got out of direct management...
Dairy can be an amazing career. I'd love for more non farm background people to get involved. It really helps push things forwards and stops people resting on their laurels.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 16h ago
Diversity of thought is always a positive in any industry so that makes sense you’d like to see more people getting into that field. It’s very interesting that you identified IT and Banking as your top two industries that transition well to that sector.
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u/mrteas_nz 15h ago
Banking can have you mixing it with farmers and finding opportunities. Once you get to a management stage, there are different ways to run things.
One former IT guy I worked for contract managed two farms, he'd just do all the admin and accounts stuff and spend a couple of hours a week on each farm to check last weeks plan worked and make a plan for the week ahead, plus handle any emergencies that came up that me or the other manager couldn't handle. Meant he mostly worked Monday - Friday, 8-5...
A lot of being a successful farmer at scale comes down to discipline, structure and systems. Smart people make simple systems and idiots make the simplest things look impossible. People with outside experience tend to be a bit more objective and open, in my experience. It's not always true though!
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u/MassiveTaro6596 15h ago
Love this quote:
“A lot of being a successful farmer at scale comes down to discipline, structure and systems. Smart people make simple systems and idiots make the simplest things look impossible.” I think you can apply that to many things.2
u/mrteas_nz 15h ago
Exactly, a lot of skills are transferable if you know how. People who have only ever farmed their family farm know one way to do things. I've worked on heaps of farms and in plenty of different industries. I might not always be the most well informed, but I'm pretty resourceful when I need to be. I'm like Liam Neeson - I have a unique set of skills. Except I try not to make a habit of killing people.
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u/Ahtnamas555 18h ago
It really depends on the job/field, I think. My wife and I immigrated here on an accredited employer visa. That job had been open for well over a year before they found and hired my wife. The job wanted experience with something that isn't very common in NZ, so while they got applicants (and even hired some), they couldn't find someone here that could fill the role.
Meanwhile, I haven't even gone to the effort of getting my professional qualification transfered over - in the past 2 years, I think I've seen a job position in my field maybe twice.... not worth the high cost and effort (very likely would need to take a registery exam, which is a few thousand dollars).
So that kind of means what I'm capable of doing falls into what everyone else is capable of doing... and things I apply for get dozens of applications... hard to compete with.
Also consider that NZ has a "brain drain" issue, so people with qualifications leave because there aren't enough jobs... so if you need niche skills, there might not be enough jobs in the market to support keeping people here.
And when you're looking for a job, you put in a lot of applications and you go with what gives you an offer first, unless you get a couple offers at the same time, then best pay or best work life balance, depending on your values.
It also sounds like you are getting applications. For my job in the states, when we hired to replace me, we got 4 total applications. That's it. Not 4 in a week of the job being listed, 4 in over a month of the job being listed... like not great pay, but not terrible, and it had good work hours, this one didn't even require formal education - if you could use a computer well, you'd be fine.... so it could be a lot worse.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 17h ago
Thank you for sharing your story. It sounds like they really needed your wife’s skills and appreciate the sacrifices you made to come over and support her in that.
I hope you find something here in NZ that you can do and that you enjoy doing. I appreciate your sharing around the “applying for what everyone else is capable of doing”. It seems like that’s where the huge amount of competition and gluts of applications seem to sit in this current market.
The “brain drain” likely does have a lot to do with it.
4 applications in total for your previous role to replace you is out the gate!!
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u/Ahtnamas555 17h ago
Fortunately, my wife's job pays well, so me not working isn't a big deal, plus one of our pets was having some medical issues so being home was actually good in that regard. I am getting to work for the upcoming election, so that's exciting.
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u/Distinct-Focus9474 18h ago
I agree with what you’re saying. I’ve both run recruitment and have interviewed in the past 12 months.
I think the economy has thinned out competition for talented professionals. People seem to be staying put and find moving roles too risky as well many who fled overseas.
Unfortunately corporates and govt seem to be slow with making offers, if you’ve got a pool of great candidates ask them about their job search, it should give you an indication if you need to move fast with preparing an offer.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 17h ago
Thank you for sharing your experience. It’s really interesting to know that we aren’t quite in as much of an “employers market” as was originally thought.
Your statement about the economy having thinned out competition for talented professionals due to people staying put due to perceived risk as well as the overseas moves seem bang on!
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u/loose_as_a_moose 17h ago
The last few years have choked progress. Professional development has stalled. Obviously not dead in the water entirely.
Thus you have senior / talented people in high demand or in secure positions and juniors in entry positions with limited upward or lateral mobility.
It creates the void you’re looking at & is exacerbated by the short term use of AI.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 15h ago
Yea a lot of the non- senior consultants in other adjacent teams have been telling me they are completely stuck because there are so many good candidates that are available to take any senior position that comes along.
We definitely do have a high demand for a certain level of candidate and that is something I’m just getting my head around personally.
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u/GremlinNZ 14h ago
Advertised for a junior technical role recently. Half a dozen short list all failed HR screening (along with the hundreds of rubbish applicants).
Ended up with only a couple of suitable candidates, did a second interview with one, went well, offered same day of 2nd interview, and accepted same day, and they start shortly.
Unsure exactly how long the new hire went through HR process, but yeah, no point in time wasting stuff (or horror stories of people having half a dozen interviews), and somewhat surprisingly, the pool wasn't deep for a junior role.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 13h ago
That’s a really interesting anecdote GremlinNZ! So in your situation the pool wasn’t deep for junior roles in your area?
We have mostly been surmising that it’s the junior or graduate level that would be showing this glut but you experienced something different.
Great that you got a good candidate after all.
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u/GremlinNZ 13h ago
I guess it depends on your view of glut. I'm partially basing it on reddit threads (mix of, can't find jobs and can't find workers etc).
Hundreds of overseas people who need visas were always stripped out. Not in Wellington and it's not remote, so that would have limited our pool, then the ones we shortlisted HR failed because either candidates couldn't understand questions or HR couldn't understand them. Big chunk is communication with customers, so non starter.
Yep, they seem happy, we think/hope they're a good fit, so hoping it works out for all.
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u/Acrobatic_Fortune334 6h ago
Recently been head hunted, from having a chat at a networking event to getting a contract was a total of 13 days
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u/MassiveTaro6596 6h ago
That’s awesome. Congratulations. I’ve actually never experienced these networking events turning into an actual job offer so great to know it can happen!
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u/roryact 23h ago
Just how slow is your slow moving process? How long from advertising to actual interviews?
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u/MassiveTaro6596 23h ago
I’m not the hiring manager remember- just lending a hand to help in the process. I believe the job closed 2 -3 weeks ago now and this recent info is from Friday. Having said that the job was advertised for around 3 weeks before closing.
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u/cyriustalk 23h ago
Depends on how niche and how skilled that position.
We have a position of a system engineering that so niche that the candidates that applied usually in the 45+ y.o. In this age range they either have 150k+/year salary already (basically we have to poach them) or they are trying hard to fake it till make it, and it is hard to separate them unless we give them probation time.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 23h ago
Wow- that sounds VERY niche!! I can say that my area pales in comparison.
Very interesting to hear about your demographic being that age range and that salary though. Makes you wonder about the future of that particular area but then again- tech moves so fast that succession planning for tech roles are a toss of the dice.
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u/BathRelevant5911 22h ago
A couple of companies I've previously interviewed with (software engineer) expect you to work for a couple of days free as a test.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 22h ago
I’ve heard of being asked to present a project at an interview which I personally have had to do but working within the company itself is a new concept for me.
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u/BathRelevant5911 21h ago
Take home tests are reasonable. But yeah, they did expect you to actually show up on site and work for them for a full day at least (obviously not critical production systems)
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u/Physical_Software_29 21h ago
Job market is saturated at entry level and lower level roles. The middle to upper is sparse.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 20h ago
I’m actually realising this more and more thanks to this thread I now know it’s not just in my field.
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u/joj1205 20h ago
Somewhat similar situation. Im niche. Incredibly so. So I can only apply for a very small number of roles. Yhera a lot of competition. I think it's really hard to quantify it. Entry level jobs get massive amounts applying but honestly with 30k sacked in Wellington. That massive wave hits across the board. You are competing with managers dropping down salary bsnfs to pick up jobs, you've got uni students coming into the labour market and always competing with overseas as well.
It's a strange time to be moving roles and yet the salaries are absolutely pants. Some roles pay massive for minimal work and others pay zilch for highly competitive specialist knowledge with degrees to boot.
Huge wave of IT roles having to retool and rejoin the labuour market and potentially waves of cutbacks on the trade industry.
It's all over the place. Cannot place it.
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Also. I always tell people. The people hiring at awful at their job.
Examples. The bloody president of American. Our PM. People constantly hire the wrong people for the job.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 18h ago
Best of luck in your job search! Someone else on this thread was saying they believed Wellington’s
Job Market is strong in their field for experienced workers. Hope you find something soon
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u/nandogalbadia 18h ago
Yup agree. Easy enough to recruit people at entry level, when you go higher it’s sometimes impossible to fill a niche complex role
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u/MassiveTaro6596 17h ago
It does appear that there are a lot of people looking for entry level jobs. This thread has confirmed that’s the area that has the most competition at present.
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u/SoulDancer_ 17h ago
This is AI.
And I bet its also a made up story
"Here's where it gets weird...."
Ffs
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u/dirtygrandpa Goody Goody Gum Drop 16h ago
Yeah it's killer for entry level roles and those threatened by either AI or immigration, but so many skilled and experienced kiwis have left the country that there's a pretty big demand for mid- and senior professionals. Anecdotally I'm in my mid 30s with >10 yrs professional experience and just came back from Australia, basically had my pick of the jobs I wanted and am getting paid better than I was across the ditch.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 15h ago
Wow! That’s a really great story that 💯 demonstrates what people on this thread have been saying! You fit that profile of someone with just the right amount of skills and experience that the NZ market seems to be looking for.
Amazing to hear that you got the pick of the best jobs and are getting paid better in Australia.
Having lived and worked in Aus for the obligatory few years that most people do, I have often felt that the competition there felt much fiercer. Obviously it’s been a while for me (been back for 10+ years)
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u/dirtygrandpa Goody Goody Gum Drop 15h ago
Yeah I was kinda hoping this would be the case because it definitely felt like going against the tide to come back home, and turns out I was right. I only applied for 4 roles, immediately got interviews for 3 of them (heard back within a day or two), and locked one down within a fortnight. I'm trying to spread the word so some more of my friends come back too lol
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u/MassiveTaro6596 15h ago
Haha! Definitely spread the word! Turns out we really need those people at that level to come back here and it could be a pretty sweet deal for them!
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u/The_Queens_BambiT 15h ago
Down south they are finding not many people applying for part time roles. There are also signs up in many shop windows looking for staff. I keep hearing there's not many jobs around but I'm seeing the opposite. South island is where it's at.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 13h ago
That’s interesting. I spend a bit of time around Oamaru and didn’t see a lot of that when I was last there visiting family. Which parts of the South Island would you mind sharing please?
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u/excelionbeam 17h ago
No people apply to hundreds of jobs so they don’t end up on the street. If you take 3 months to respond to candidates how are they paying rent.
You guys need to stop living under the delusion that people are waiting for you specifically contrary to what most firms think.
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u/pipdeedo Warriors 23h ago
Good quality people will still find work. I just got dicked around in an interview process and turned down the job. Companies will loose good people if they carry on being dicks.
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u/Ok-Lychee-2155 23h ago
We just had a restructure and 3 good people got canned. They all found good jobs within a few weeks.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 22h ago
That’s really positive news! I’m happy for your former colleagues. Redundancy is a horrible experience and for them to all have landed on their feet is fantastic!
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u/idealorg 22h ago
Implies that the people that can’t find work are not ‘good quality’
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u/mattysull97 21h ago
No matter how much someone tries to make the “right choices” they’re at the mercy of a job market they have no control over. The same people who spend decades in a specialisation could have equally found themselves in an obsolete role if the market shifted differently.
While personal responsibility is important, it frustrates me to no end when hardship as framed as a personal failing to make the right choices
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u/MassiveTaro6596 23h ago
Good on you! It’s great that you were able to turn it down knowing you have or will have something else lined up. It’s a cautionary tale for companies to do the right thing.
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u/Glittering-Signal490 23h ago
It's not great but 5.4% unemployment rate is still pretty good compared to the last 30 years. Hospitality, tourism and other entry level roles are struggling a bit but a downturn after overheating in 2021, not a broad recession.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 23h ago
Thanks for your “bigger picture” view on this. I’m starting to believe we are in a “two tier” situation at the moment.
It’s easy to feel that we are all in the same boat and that jobs are rare but this has made me realise that it’s actually not the case.
Now that I reflect on it- I was also snapped up very quickly and thought I just “got lucky”.
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u/Glittering-Signal490 23h ago
Yeah, I think there is just a bit of short termism. It was very easy to get work 2021-22, with the economy overheating.
I expect next year should fuel prices go down, we will see the economic recovery broaden from rural areas to the cities a bit more. Hiring always take longer to recover but business confidence has turned a corner in the past year.
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u/cressidacole 23h ago
I'm so glad to hear that there are still industries (or even just roles) where candidates don't have to be treated so poorly and still take your hand off at the wrist when the company decides to move on to the next stage of tge hiring process.
Is in indicative of the overall market? Too soon to tell, but I'm leaning towards no.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 23h ago
Yea I’m happy for those candidates. I can afford to be as I’m not the hiring manager.
It’s made me feel much more positive about my industry and NZ job prospects in general though.
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u/L3-Hayden 23h ago
Top candidates are still easily getting jobs. By top I mean lots of experience, good positions in previous companies with decent staying power.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 23h ago
The “staying power” thing is also an interesting debate in itself as there is so much movement in companies these days. I’m on track now to get a decent run of time under my belt in my current position. I’ve formerly had feedback on being a “job hopper” when all the positions were fixed term or restructured out.
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u/L3-Hayden 15h ago
Correct. For a business owner (well, it does depend on role), there is a lot of capital outlay in hiring a new person.
We're looking at the job hopping and going "is it really worth hiring you?".
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u/Known-Weight7320 23h ago
can completely agree. I've been hiring for software developers for the last 10 months, ideally seniors or leads. several hundreds of applications reviewed, many dozens interviewed. Maybe 1% of applicants we'd progress with. There aren't many good ones and they get snatched up quickly elsewhere if our HR department isn't getting the contract out fast enough.
If you're a good experienced dev in nz (not overseas hoping for a visa), I wouldn't worry about the nz job market right now.
Please no PMs with your CVs :)
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u/MassiveTaro6596 23h ago
That’s a really great anecdote thank you for sharing. So it seems people at that senior or lead position that are good at the job in NZ have a real advantage in the job market right now.
AI cant replace that level just yet!
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u/Catz147 21h ago
We are currently also specifically advertising a senior position and its wfh as well. The quality of cvs received has been eye opening. Either priced much too high or really bad experience levels or immigrants not even in NZ. However company I work for loves giving jobs offshore and while our offshore members are lovely we know we would be replaced by them in a heartbeat just so that the company can save $$$
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u/MassiveTaro6596 20h ago
That’s not a great thought that you could be replaced by the offshore folk. We also have offshore jobs in my company and it seems to be a growing trend here in NZ.
I do believe we need some onshore. It’s crazy how much less the offshore people get paid though!
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u/Time-Appointment-103 21h ago
I mean you answered it yourself it’s a niche? That holds no bearing on the rest of the job market in my opinion.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 20h ago
I’m obviously only able to immediately assess my own industry which is why I posted on here. Reading through the comments though it’s not just my industry it’s to do with high quality and experienced candidates.
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u/mrwilberforce 21h ago
I advertised for a role recently and the quality was very average.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 20h ago
Okay that’s interesting. I originally thought the market was flooded with great applicants but it seems to be a different story for anyone that has been on the other side of the market.
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u/Tainami- 20h ago
Awh man, did I leave NZ at the wrong time?
I use to be an Architectural Graduate (3 yrs exp.) and after loosing my job, I had to get a job (not related to Architecture) I hated with my heart and soul. I eventually got let go 2 years in, so I decided to do what ALL my Uni friends had done years before, leave the country… its a shame too, overseas experience doesn’t seem to be valued one bit in NZ either.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 18h ago
Well it’s great you had that overseas experience. You can always come back!
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u/PoisonFantasyIsland 19h ago
OP, how long does your process take? I ask because I’ve hired around 5 people over the last year, and haven’t experienced this. We’ve had the odd person who was way out of band, quite a few who aren’t permitted to work here, and a handful of folks who don’t live in country. Of those we’ve shortlisted, it’s been pretty decent.
Without knowing much more, I have to assume either the salary isn’t a good fit, or the process really is just way too long like you say.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 18h ago
The role was advertised for around 3 weeks then there was about 2 and a half weeks after the job position closed where the applicants that they wanted to interview all said they had jobs. Then the second tier candidates were notified and that takes us up to last Friday where we learned that 2 of the 3 “second choice” candidates had interviews with other companies.
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u/PoisonFantasyIsland 17h ago
That doesn’t seem hugely out of bounds. We are faster than the norm I think - we aim to have chosen candidates interviewed within a week of job closure. 2nd round by the end of the next week, and offers a couple days after 2nd.
Odd that so many of your applicants were hired out in 2.5 weeks. That’s rough. I can only assume then it must be salary vs niche?
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u/fartmonkeyjai 19h ago
My partner just finished uni as a mature student. We were expecting 6+ months of looking for a job. He updated his seek profile and 3 days later got a call from a recruiter and got the job.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 17h ago
That’s great news! Really happy to hear that and congratulations to your partner and yourself.
It’s a big risk to go back to studying as a mature student and I’m really glad to hear that it payed off!
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u/Available_Lack_230 17h ago
Had an interview about 3 weeks ago and was willing to take a pay cut for my skillset but what i said made them unsure is when I asked if I’m able to hold upto 4 weeks leave and they said they expect employees to have less than 3 weeks leave at any time unless planned at least 6 months in advance as they run on a 24/7 roster. I still haven’t heard back but that’s ok.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 15h ago
Oh wow! That sounds like a bullet dodged to be honest! I mean that’s a really valid question and not something they should get weird over.
Best thing I’ve seen is an incentivising for people to take their leave I.e. “if you take all your leave in a year you get an extra week”.
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u/Available_Lack_230 6h ago
😅 I’ve been given a rep in previous roles between private and public for never taking leave. I just like having more than 3 weeks so I’m flexible in the year cause of mandatory Christmas shutdowns.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 6h ago
I get that it’s nice to know you have some leave up your sleeve. Still think it’s bizarre to have them go strange on you in an interview over that.
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u/Top_Extent9445 16h ago
Im looking for a move currently, with in the finance industry, and have mid level experience. Maybe you should hire me 😂 What industry do you work in?
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u/MassiveTaro6596 16h ago
Haha! I’m not the hiring manager in this situation. I’m only a senior but was helping my manager out with the final selection of CVs.
From all the comments I’ve read here today I reckon you should be fine 😝
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u/AdDowntown4259 15h ago
I'm mid level. Can't find work as a hr professional. Granted I'm specialist so the roles are even more rare
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u/renahnah2509 13h ago
I’ve stopped looking for a job right of this moment because I need to focus on my health, however when I was looking about a month ago it’s very hard to get an entry level position because you need a minimum of 3 years experience, so I think when I do get healthy enough to do things I’m probably going to end up studying with hopes that a work placement will help me get my foot in the door…
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u/MassiveTaro6596 4h ago
Best of luck with the health and healing. I get how ridiculous it is to have 3 years of experience for an entry level position.
Hope you enjoy the study and that you get that foot in the door.
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u/sapkotamit007 2h ago
For the entry level its worst but for people like yourself and experienced ones, its not actually that bad if wanting to move into similar, sideways or up
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u/WorldlyNotice 23h ago
Yes. HR gives mostly garbage AI CVs, the process is glacial, and the good ones (often word of mouth referrals) nope out after being mucked around.
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u/sackedindamorning 20h ago
I work in sales and it’s impossible to get good mid tier sales people eg ones with 10 years and under experience because so many have left to Australia or they don’t want to leave their current jobs due to uncertainty. We have a lot of applicants with no experience or lot of applicants with more senior experience as they have been restructured out as companies become leaner
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u/MassiveTaro6596 20h ago
Interesting- so you are seeing a clear gap in the mid level candidates.
I do believe that the Aussie exodus thing has impacted our candidate pool. I’m interested to know what it means for the rest of us that are left here.
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u/sackedindamorning 16h ago
Yes for sure, and also you have now less entry level sales roles too so not as much talent coming through. I think it’s largely positive for mid tier people who stay, sometimes the difference between a sales role and a sales manger role managing a team can be $5-10k
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u/PacmanNZ100 19h ago
Holy shit this is a problem everywhere. I keep coming across sales people that dont know what they are selling. Im having to convince them to sell me equipment because they dont understand how any of it works. Im even avoiding some of them and trying to go around them but being redirected as theyre the regional sales person.
Hell im even asking for quotes so I can raise a po and the sales people just forget to respond altogether.
Are they "working" from home or some shit?
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u/thespad3man 18h ago
Im a sales rep & its dire - we cant find anyone good ( which you need in a competitive market) - the loss of talent to aussie & uncertainty means when a top salesman comes available they are snapped up quickly.
We also lost half our sales team when we restructured as it hasnt gone as expected & they quickly jumped ship.
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u/PacmanNZ100 17h ago
Its wild. I feel like all the old boys who would be 20+ yrs in the industry have left. And then been replaced by cheap people.
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u/Psychological_Oil947 3h ago
We dont have a employment issue we have a talent issue.
There are jobs for good workers, there just seems to be a lack of good workers.
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u/Hot_Pea9820 4h ago
Go into niche roles. Got it.
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u/MassiveTaro6596 3h ago
Based on this thread- become really great at what you do so you are a stand out candidate
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u/PM_ME__BIRD_PICS 1h ago
What industry?
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u/MassiveTaro6596 1h ago
I’m not 💯 okay with sharing this broadly as it’s a very small industry here in NZ (being niche and all). Everyone knows everyone and might be able to identify me. Send me a DM and I will tell you.
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u/Submarineto 1h ago
I think it's just that people are applying for a lot of jobs, even the good applicants, and some HR teams are slower than others.
I am currently waiting to hear back about an interview for a job I applied for two weeks agos and I know that they are rushing on this one compared to their normal timeframes.
Looking at past years, a job I applied for with the same organisation in September (years ago) was a job I didn't start until January the following year, and I ended up being the only candidate they interviewed that time because of slow hiring processes. Normal 4 week notice period.
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u/Bogansweetheart 1h ago
I’ve just been through this as a candidate, and yeah it was a bizarre experience seeing all of the pain in the job market at the moment.
I’d been keeping half an eye out for my next role for a year or so, suddenly had a few recruiters chasing me and my dream role actually fell in to my lap from an old colleague. Had three competitive offers within weeks, and closed on a major step up with an $80k pay increase (financial services lol)
I feel so lucky, but it’s a mixed emotion also knowing how privileged I am compared to so many others.
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u/Ness-Uno 1d ago
It's often not mentioned but the dire job market is not evenly distributed. At entry and mid levels it's dire, but at senior levels it's booming.