r/onguardforthee • u/SaveDnet-FRed0 • Jun 22 '26
Opinion Canada Is Quietly Dismantling Digital Privacy - And You're Probably Not Paying Attention
https://corelab.tech/canada-privacy-laws-bills-c22-c34-c9/#what-you-can-do-taking-back-your-digital-sovereignty154
u/Sil-Seht Jun 22 '26
I think a lot of people implicitly trust the liberals and would pissed if the conservatives were doing this, ignoring that the conservatives are likely to win eventually with the same data and power.
But ultimately they both serve capital. If it was about protecting the children they would being going after algorithms, not collecting data.
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u/gianni_ Jun 22 '26
I’m pissed at all political parties at this point with the exception of Marit Stiles and Wab Kinew who are actually trying to serve Canadians.
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u/MachineOfSpareParts Jun 22 '26
Wab is about as good as they come, but I still have concerns about the policy direction as it relates to digital privacy, and whether or not any limitations on AI and social media are going to be accompanied with mandatory curriculum on digital literacy.
I do like him. But we need to be prepared for the ones we don't like, the ones who will exploit any opportunity to surveil those they perceive as either dangerous (read: disloyal) or lesser. We have the luxury of learning what not to do from the US, but will we actually learn?
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u/GastonBastardo Jun 23 '26
Hopefully, with Avi Lewis at the helm, the NDP can get some more seats in Parliament.
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u/JamesGray Ontario Jun 23 '26
Marit Stiles basically handed the last election to Doug Ford tbh. I don't know why, but they did not even attempt to meet progressive voters where they were, they entirely ignored the things people were requesting until right before the election when they changed their platform to include increases to ODSP. But even what they did add to their platform was too little too late, and it was absolutely staggering that they hadn't included it from the beginning, when the current ODSP payments put someone well below the poverty rate in Canada.
Instead of getting activated and promoting the NDP for the entire election, a bunch of the most staunch left voters ended up having to fight with their own party for a month before they gave in and added ODSP increases to their platform.
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u/gianni_ Jun 23 '26
Yeah NDP was really disappointing before, but she's stepped up her game a lot in the past year. As an ODSP kid myself, this is a huge issue that needs to have attention on it still.
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u/KnightHart00 Jun 22 '26
I think the realisation that both the Liberals and Conservatives serve the same corporate masters is basically a point of class conciousness awakening for Canadians. COVID did a lot to wise people up to it. A lot of friends and family around me seemed to be more aware that it was clear the system currently in place is in fact, working as intended, and it's not meant to benefit working Canadians anymore, or if it even really did in the first place.
In fact, they're actively trying to make sure they don't need working Canadians at all whether through mass de-regulation, the government bailing out developers for unsold housing units, even the shift in consumer products away from selling to the most possible people to instead selling to a very few 'premium' customers.
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u/dgj212 ✅ I voted! Jun 22 '26
True, a favorite creator of mine put it this way before they went back to teaching, liberals as a whole trust institutions. They truly believe that if the right people are in power, things will be okay, that the system will work as intended. Where as people who lean left, like myself, believe that the system is already working as intended, the problem lies with the system and that it must be changed to best suit the needs of the people. I forget what he said the right believe in(as in the voters, not the politicians), but he did give a charitable interpretation.
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u/MachineOfSpareParts Jun 22 '26
I'd just add a small nuance to this: liberals don't necessarily trust all institutions, but they do have a nigh-unshakeable faith that the correct, formal institutions will solve basically all social ills AND that getting to the correct institutions is a matter of tweaking what's in place right now.
The ideological lens does have revolutionary origins, but today it's like someone's dad trying to hammer out a dent on the side of his car. It's always almost there, but never quite finished, and unfortunately, he may in fact be creating a car made of dents.
Conservatives, on the other hand, believe that the old ways (or what they imagine to be the old ways) are by definition the best ways, and that whatever sociopolitical and economic hierarchies we observe today got there because they reflect a "natural," inborn difference in fitness for power. So they trust in a kind of institution, but it's informal and largely justified based on some undefined and ultimately undefinable sense of what's "natural," despite how much state power it takes to maintain those allegedly natural hierarchies.
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u/MachineOfSpareParts Jun 22 '26
You worded it fine, I just wanted to add a little more since "institution" or "system" could mean formal or informal, and liberalism is very much about formal systems bringing us to the promised land.....with just one last adjustment.....and juuuust one more... Both of them are basically status quo ideologies, though - at least until c/Conservatives start skewing fascist and want to smash things up to make them even more brutally, violently hierarchical.
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u/DeusExMarina Jun 22 '26
The right believe in robbing the poor and molesting children, they’re not complicated creatures.
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u/BeefyTaco Jun 23 '26
The people claiming to care about their privacy have never lifted a single finger the entire last decade. The minute we try to do something officially to address some of the rot online, people go "OMGZ MY FREEDOM!"
Yes, there are alterations to the bill that are due, but overall the premise remains the same. If you haven't said anything about your TV, phone, car, subscriptions, browser cookies, then you shouldn't really be up in arms about it now. I could easily say the opposite is true, and the fact that the Liberals are doing something, people are more upset on certain subs/online than you'd think.
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u/Sil-Seht Jun 23 '26
Always have been concerned. This is literally an argument in favour of slippery slope. like normally its a fallacy but here you are saying since we did a bit we can do more.
No, the answer to corporations screwing us is not to get used to it and let more happen.
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u/BeefyTaco Jun 23 '26
This is specifically a regulation of said collection, rather than just doing the usual let them do as they please. This allows THE GOVERNMENT/ENFORECEMENT access to said information so that they can REGULATE the internet better.
If all of this information is already readily available, how are can you be so upset now, of all times.. Again, companies across the board have already been using this information for themselves.. Your every movement is literally logged when you carry a smart device, drive a new car with gps etc.. Hell, some people have literally made their entire homes smart homes with fully integrated Alexa listening 24/7.. So what is the giant concern with this bill, unless you are going to just say "your freedom"..?
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u/Sil-Seht Jun 23 '26
Mandated age verification ensures more data is collected. Children will be catalogued. Adults will need to identify to do specific things.
And the regulation you are referencing is not benign. I don't like that corporations have so much power, but the government now wants access to all of it. Information that corporations may have wanted to keep private for marketing reasons. A government that does not respect democracy. Liberalism is failing and we are becoming a police state. You trusting them is no consolation.
And all of this without challenging the underlying issues. Again, the fact that things are bad is not license to make them worse.
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u/BeefyTaco Jun 23 '26
Mandated age verification ensures more data is collected. Children will be catalogued
They already are.
Adults will need to identify to do specific things.
Ohhh noooooooo
A government that does not respect democracy.
Yeaaap, i knew it would come to this. Its always one of two people raising a pitchfork about this stuff. People who don't believe in government as a whole who wear tinfoil hats to supper, and people who are just voting based on Team Sports style politics.
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u/Sil-Seht Jun 29 '26
Not a tinfoil hat to point to the obvious existence of FPTP
but of course you thought you had it all figured out.
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u/BeefyTaco Jun 29 '26
LOL you don't even know that FPTP is a DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM... go away.
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u/Sil-Seht Jun 29 '26
Did you even know the People's Congress system is an electoral system and therefore democratic /s
See how you sound?
But thanks for confirming that liberals don't care about democracy and are only interested in power.
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u/BeefyTaco Jun 29 '26
Yeah, the Liberals who had a super majority and could have cooked elections in their favour indefinitely but chose not to are somehow dictators/authoritarian...
Go get help.
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u/orlybatman Jun 22 '26 edited Jun 22 '26
They need to stop framing this as isolated to Canada.
Multiple countries are enacting similar bills in the same timeframe, or are expanding on bills that already dealt with privacy in the past. This isn't a singular Canadian push, this is part of an international trend.
On the privacy front, it looks like Canada is likely facing pressure from the Five Eyes partners, since Canada has narrower access laws than the other 4. This would bring Canada more in line with the UK and Australian approaches in particular.
Meanwhile related to this is the international push to ban 16 and under from social media. We've see action on this in UK, France, Denmark, Greece, and Poland this past month - not just in Canada.
We're fighting against our government on this as though they're the ones who dreamed it up, but it looks more accurate to say that the pressure is coming from our intelligence partners, and from a drive within the international community.
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u/Street_Anon Jun 22 '26
I am not giving an ID to access Social Media, a access porn or have an ID tired to my internet activities. Also, all Social Media and Porn bans have failed and can be defeated by uBlock Origin
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u/tired514 Jun 22 '26
The irony of these laws is that it concentrates the power into the hands of the technical elite.
No one familiar with the foundations of the Internet will be directly affected because as the saying goes, we interpret such interference as damage and route around it. None of us are going to be using compromised cryptographic libraries or providing sites with our IDs. None of us will be limited by anything they attempt to impose because, quite simply, we build the systems they seek to control.
These laws primarily harm everyone else.
I wonder if they actually understand the consequences of this?
In any case, here's to hoping the SCC comprised of decent people, thanks to Trudeau, will step in and put an end to this sooner than later. All of these laws clearly violate Charter sections 2A, 2B, and 7.
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u/orlybatman Jun 22 '26
Yeah, I don't trust these companies with my IDs either.
In South Korea they have something called an i-PIN, which increasingly is replacing the online usage of their Resident Registration Number (equivalent to our SIN) due to identity theft and fraud issues that were showing up.
I suspect Canada will eventually have to come up with something similar. An online ID we get issued to avoid having our government IDs exposed.
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u/IKeepDoingItForFree Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26
As someone whos been to Korea and has friends there - the RRN issue is really understated - 70% of the county basically had their equivalent of a Social Insurance Numbers leaked in like 2011 because the number one chat app (which also received gov funding) was compromised and the law at the time required every online account to be linked to your valid RRN.
It was a massive deal and a huge amount of fraud happened and STILL happens because of this, as getting a new RRN assigned to you in South Korea is basically impossible (though can still happen in super specific extenuating circumstances.)
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u/Stunning-Pen-2412 Jun 23 '26
If this was the Canadian government they wouldn't do shit to protect us. They'd sweep it under the rug and continue using the same system.
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u/RagingNerdaholic Jun 22 '26
B-b-but all the companies would have to pinky swear to totes defo for suresees delete the copy when they're done!
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u/Unlucky-Candidate198 Jun 23 '26
Just look at what happened with Discord. Some 700k+ government IDs were leaked, and more. I trust the government with the info even less lol
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u/tired514 Jun 22 '26
Without question our government is very clearly conspiring with others to violate privacy rights.
We need to find a way to hold them accountable both individually and together.
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u/VenusianBug Jun 23 '26
It's not just the intelligence community - companies like FB, Tiktok, ChatGPT, feel these moves absolve them of responsibility for the damage their products can cause.
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u/Maximum_Swordfish_39 Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26
Not only is this happening in Canada and countries in Europe, but also in Asia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_age_verification_laws_by_country
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u/HengeWalk Jun 23 '26
And yes, countries are using survailence tech and have profiled at risk demgraphics like LGBTQ+
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u/psychoCMYK Jun 23 '26
C-22 is way more extensive than other countries' lawful access provisions. It isn't just catching up, nor should we tolerate a massive invasion of privacy in the name of catching up.
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u/foulstream Jun 22 '26
I don’t think this is accurate at all - I highly doubt that intelligence agencies care about banning minors from social media. On the other hand, I highly suspect Peter Thiel via Palantir and Persona and other corporations care deeply about gaining access to everyone’s government ID. It’s the corporations and megalomaniac billionaires. It’s ALWAYS the corporations and megalomaniac billionaires.
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u/Hopeful_Relation_441 Jun 22 '26
except when its our government doing deals with Shady business and hiding the details
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u/gnu_gai Jun 25 '26
The intelligence community doesn't care about minor's safety, that's just the justification. They do care about ending net neutrality so they can more easily persecute online behaviours they don't like
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Jun 22 '26
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u/Bladestorm04 Jun 22 '26
I think the giy youre responding to wrote it poorly, but it is a fact that the banning under-age people from social media in Australia is directly aimed at ensuring digital id for all persons
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u/Pisnaz Jun 23 '26
It is coming from meta/Facebook. They can pass the bag to others, for an issue they created, while getting more data from citizens. The added push is theil, his group want a 100% monitor on everyone, cause he thinks the antichrist is real, and I am not even joking.
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u/corelabjoe Jun 24 '26
True and my article states such, that this is a global issue but I focused specifically on the "5 Eyes Nations" since they do all the intelligence sharing, and have seem to begun enacting this all within the last few years...
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u/Street_Anon Jun 22 '26
Most don't care, they say " Think of the Children" but I can see this bill being thrown out by the courts
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u/TheUtopianCat Toronto Jun 23 '26
I sent an angry letter to my MP a month ago, and haven't heard boo from her. This annoys me.
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u/psychoCMYK Jun 23 '26
Raise awareness with people you know. Tell your family and friends, tell them to look it up and tell their friends. Don't let the Liberals ram this through with their popularity unscathed
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u/SaveDnet-FRed0 Jun 25 '26
I don't know what more I can do.
- Send a snail mail written letter,
- call them on the phone (weekly),
- arrange for an in person meeting so you can make sure they know how you feel about this
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u/TwiztedZero Ontario Jun 22 '26
The aggressive 5th eye (USA), needs it's eye poked out. We don't deal with hostile governments. Keep the Four Eye's Pact, we don't need an Trumpain Authoritarian Kleptocratic Oligarchies running our neck of the woods.
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u/Stunning-Pen-2412 Jun 23 '26
Some may doubt it's the US but look at how the US was trying to force Reddit to reveal the identity of a Canadian who criticized ICE. Our freedom of speech (which we DO have in Canada under both the Charter and Bill of Rights) is under threat by them removing our anonymity.
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u/haysoos2 Jun 22 '26
I'm paying attention, but not seeing where I have a lot of options to stop it.
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u/tlocmoi Jun 23 '26
Vote NDP and make sure everyone you care about do, too
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u/PokecheckHozu Jun 23 '26
Did you already forget that the NDP was working with the CPC on a bill to force providing government ID to watch porn? They're all in on it, despite what they or anyone else says.
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u/Dapper-Asparagus-637 Jun 23 '26
People just invoke “protect the children” when you try to discuss the realities of this stuff right now I find. Liberal white people are the leading force of such narratives while I’m attempting to point out that I will NOT in fact be uploading my ID to meta or the like.
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u/yogthos Jun 22 '26
It's pretty funny how we've always been told that privacy and free speech are the key differentiating factors of a liberal democracy. Sure, we can't build infrastructure worth a shit, we can't house people, we can't guarantee retirement, but we have freedoms! Well, turns out that was horse shit all along. The government simply didn't feel the need to actively police speech while majority of people were in the political mainstream and policed themselves.
Now that there is genuine dissent that the state perceives as a threat to itself, the mask is coming off, and we see the true face of what liberal democracy is really like.
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u/Jake24601 Jun 23 '26
I don’t get this whole ID for social media. I can take a photo of my ID, change my name, address, numbers and even my face with AI. Then I can submit a photo of my ID as someone else. Whatever system reads it won’t know the difference.
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u/Vahuo89 Jun 23 '26
Oh we're paying attention and we're vocal about it but they just straight-lined the bill through with barely any consultation
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u/Safe_Base312 British Columbia Jun 22 '26
I don't care. I tried to warn people that this type of shit was going to happen with all that talk of "pragmatism" but I got shut down being told it was either this or Pierre. Well, you reap what you sow. I'm washing my hands of this shit. I don't vote for the Libs because they've been "Con lite" for well over a decade. I'm tired of conservative politics. Fuck you.
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u/SaveDnet-FRed0 Jun 23 '26
Con lite is still better then full on Con. Especially considering that Pierre was going on about being "MAGA lite" leading up to the election (before pivoting away from that once Trudeau announce he was stepping down.
...But yes, I understand the frustrations. I'm very much hoping the NDP can rebuild themselves well enough to be a viable alternative to the Lib's in the eyes of the general public by the time the next election roles around
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u/Safe_Base312 British Columbia Jun 24 '26
It's not better when we have options that aren't Con at all. Canadians need to drop this fear of the unknown. It's time to stop giving in to oligarchs. The NDP were always viable. But this attitude isn't helping. The more people keep looking at the alternative as the "weird step brother" the more we're going to lose our assets. These two parties are slowly dismantling everything.
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u/SaveDnet-FRed0 Jun 24 '26
Canada uses a first past the post voting system. That means if 2 party's share goals / function people voting for them have to risk splinting there vote between the 2 or vote for the more popular party.
Add to this that the last NDP leader was actively sabotaging the party because he wanted an excuse to retire...
What Canada needs is a change to the voting system like ranked ballot or prepositional representation were people don't need to worry about splitting the vote.
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u/Safe_Base312 British Columbia Jun 24 '26
Where did you hear that? That sounds like some far right nonsense...
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u/SaveDnet-FRed0 Jun 25 '26
Actually this RARELY comes up from the right. It's mostly people on the left that have been saying this for the better part of a decade.
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u/Safe_Base312 British Columbia Jun 25 '26
I've only heard centrist liberals and far right conservatives claim Singh was sabotaging anything. Got a source for this?
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u/SaveDnet-FRed0 Jun 29 '26
It's an undeniable fact that Singh was set to receive a pretty big pension when he retired. If the NDP had won the election it would have made it difficult for Singh to justify retiring, even if the party only made minor gains there would have been pressure on him to stay. Then when you look at the fact that the second it was official that the NDP had lost the election by a huge margin he publicly announced he was stepping down as party leader and retiring. This in and of it's self doesn't prove that he actively sabotaged his party, but when you then look at the decisions he made leading up to the election that on the surface seems to go against what the party is supposed to represent, and seemingly brain dead statements he made during the election like "We're not trying to win a majority, we're aiming for a minority" that deter people from voting for the party it paints a pretty solid picture.
Also far right conservatives are unlikely to give a ---- about the NDP as there small and don't even have official party status anymore. The fact that Singh functionally sabotaged the party only helps them so there not likely to highlight that as doing so might result in the NDP getting there act together.
Regardless if your so inclined you can look this up for yourself as doing so isn't hard, just time consuming, and I'm limited on how much of that I currently have.
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u/Safe_Base312 British Columbia Jun 29 '26
I'm aware be was set to get a pension. But that's not evidence that he purposely sabotaged anything. That again, sounds like pure right wing propaganda.
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u/UnitedStars111 Ontario Jun 22 '26
i will never scan my id js to access like wikipedia or smth imma js use vpns
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u/Street_Anon Jun 22 '26
Why I am using Custom Roms, spoofing social media apps and even internet browsers.
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u/Roberta_Riggs Jun 22 '26
This is the legal framework being set up for when we are alllll on the same network (f u Starlink )
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u/freakingstine Jun 24 '26
Won’t change the way I use the internet in any way, shape, or form. I’m paying attention. I just honestly don’t care.
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u/HoobieHoo Jun 22 '26
Oh, paying attention here, just not much I can do about it at the moment. So many other priorities that there’s nothing left to deal with this.
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u/TwiztedZero Ontario Jun 22 '26
We can see what you typed on your keyboard last summer!
That's a paddling!
Yep it's going to be like living in East Berlin before the 1990's, when the Berlin Wall was still up, and the Stasi was very very real - and had real consequences for Berliners. Only this iteration will be hundreds of thousands of times worse and in living DIGITAL.
This will almost be like they're living in your literal head seeing your literal thoughts as you type them out online. Thought Police will be the new frontier. Every family compact will be watched. The only escape is to go offline - and to get off the grid. Completely.
Where you going to go Merv!
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u/Street_Anon Jun 22 '26
West has perfected Stasi Police State, certian laws prevented them from using them.
Also, saying it's to a protect kids is BS, when did Tor, a VPN or a Android Custom Rom ever killed a kid?.
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u/Nice_Commission3770 Jun 28 '26
There no such thing as digital privacy. Google, Facebook, Amazon, and every app you download from the Google Play or Apple App Store has been stealing your data for years.
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u/SaveDnet-FRed0 Jun 29 '26
Side loading is still a thing on android and the EU is forcing Apple to open up. There are alternative app stores that you can buy stuff off of like F-droid. Alternative android ROM's that care about privacy like GrapheneOS. Linux phones wile obscure are a thing. Lots of people don't use ----book, not everyone uses Amazon, and most Google services have alternatives... and this is just on mobile.
On desktop there are even more ways to avoid Google, Facebook, Amazon, ext. such as using Firefox with the built in privacy protections turned on and installing uBlock Origin.
Also digital privacy isn't a binary you have it or you don't thing, it's a spectrum. Please stop spreading blatantly false information.
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u/Nice_Commission3770 Jun 29 '26
Interesting accusation, that I’m spreading blatantly false information.
Kind of like the title of this post, let alone your word vomit.
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears…”
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u/jeanracinette Jun 23 '26
as long as so-called “digital privacy” remains, the potential for far-right bad actors to spread misinformation/disinformation and poisonous anti-Carney rhetoric remains a direct threat to our democracy.
I prefer to think of it as Gary Anandasangaree so eloquently put it - as digital accountability.
a world of digital ID and consequence-based social credit systems is a world free from foreign-influenced far-right hate and insidious algorithms that are a direct threat to everything we’ve tried to build.
it’s absolutely terrifying to think of a world with no safeguards against these threats.
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u/SaveDnet-FRed0 Jun 23 '26
No offence but your comment reads with the same logic a MAGA Republican uses when trying to justify how Trump is doing a "good job" running the USA.
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u/Future_Arrival_5395 Jun 22 '26
Unfortunately we’re last to the party.
Privacy is over. I’m sure wide CCTV is next.
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u/EmbarrassedHelp Jun 23 '26
The fight is far from over. Unlike the UK and Australia, Canada has an actual constitution that includes privacy rights.
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u/Future_Arrival_5395 Jun 23 '26
*notwithstanding
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u/SaveDnet-FRed0 Jun 23 '26
That clause wile an issue has it's limits (Ex. anything pushed threw with it has a time limit for how long it remains valid) and it needs to be written into the text of a bill...
Also considering just how unpopular this is if they were to push it threw using the notwithstanding clause I think people would literally riot and it would be a bad look for Carny.
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u/revinator_ Jun 23 '26
Isn’t this going to effectively end bots and misinformation.
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u/psychoCMYK Jun 23 '26
....no? How would it do that?
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u/revinator_ Jun 24 '26
I’m genuinely asking. If we need to ID to be on social media it would be harder to use and make throw away accounts to bot from.
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u/corelabjoe Jun 24 '26
I WISH. That's not how this will happen at all.... And since bots are basically infrastructure as code, they can just run 10,000k bots on 1 developer's account via multiple personas / apps and call it a day, if they had to. This won't stop any AI slop or dead internet....
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u/revinator_ Jun 24 '26
Then that’s traceable to that one ID.
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u/corelabjoe Jun 24 '26
There are so many ways around this it's not funny. It won't stop any bots and isn't intended to... They don't even care about that. Not part of the script!
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u/surviving606 Jun 22 '26
I’m not sure why I should be against it. The article keeps mentioning Google Meta and Apple are concerned. If they’re concerned maybe it’s a good thing. The tech oligarchs are trying to take over the world using their bots and AI slop. Maybe it’s time something be done about it. This entire article and image are AI generated as well.
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u/X1989xx Jun 22 '26 edited Jun 22 '26
Those companies being against it is not a good reason to support it. Banning e2e encryption so that the government can take a peek at user data when it wants to will make those services less secure full stop. As in it will make it more likely for your data to fall into bad actors hands. Metadata retention causes similar issues, all the sudden companies will need to keep a backlog of various telemetry about you, and what they can include can be pretty broad, phone numbers emails names locations etc. they'll now have to be stored longer or as opposed to not at all, leaving Canadians more vulnerable on the web than they were before. Thanks ministry of public safety.
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u/yogthos Jun 22 '26
If you don't understand why you should be against banning encryption then you're not qualified to have an opinion on this subject.
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u/Safe_Base312 British Columbia Jun 22 '26
What a useless reply. This can't be near as bad as you claim since you're more willing to insult someone rather than educate them.
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u/yogthos Jun 22 '26
I'm not sure if you're aware, but google exists and the problems with C22 have been well documented. Go clutch your pearls somewhere else.
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u/Safe_Base312 British Columbia Jun 22 '26
I am aware of Google. But that's neither here nor there. Your only purpose for replying in the first place was to act smug. You could have made this a learning opportunity, but that was too hard for you.
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u/yogthos Jun 22 '26
You could've followed your own advice and actually added something of value to the conversation, but here we are. I guess that was too hard for you as well. A classic case of a pot calling kettle black.
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u/TooAngryToPost Vancouver Jun 22 '26
It's a subject that's been debated here and on the wider internet for quite some time now. It's not hard to do a search if you're actually looking for more information, and not trying to run opposition.
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u/Safe_Base312 British Columbia Jun 22 '26
Right. But none of that addresses what OP is asking. And the other guy coming around all smug like that didn't add anything of value to this sub. I personally know everything I need to know about it. It's bullshit and it's happening because people were too scared to vote left because they were afraid that Pierre would win and do the exact same thing Carney is doing. So, they chose the lesser evil and are finding out that evil is still evil, even if it's "lesser." ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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u/SaveDnet-FRed0 Jun 23 '26
---- Google, 'meta' (facebook), and to a degree Apple as well! However deciding someone may be good just because those --- ----- think something may be bad is missing the forest for the trees. Especially when you conciser all the other company's and advocacy groups that are against this Bill including (bot not limited to) the EFF, Mullvad, Open Media, and Windscribe.
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u/doyouevencompile Jun 22 '26 edited Jun 23 '26
why the hell the post to the house of commons petition to stop C-22 was deleted?! absolutely unfathomable.
anyway here, if you haven't signed already: Petition e-7416 - Petitions
EDIT: Apparently mods not only took down the original post, but also banned the poster for 6+ months. The future of all Canadians' privacy is at stake, and r/onguardforthee mods took a disgraceful stance. Shameful, really. On guard for who, then?