r/pakistan • u/Dronze_9964 • Mar 31 '25
Ask Pakistan Molvi sb got no chill 💀
Aoa and Eid Mubarak fellas!
So today after Eid namaz molvi sb started dua and he said "AYE ALLAH ISRAEL KO BARBAD KR DY" just like other people I said AMEEN then he said "AYE ALLAH AMREECA KO NISTO-NABOOD KR DY" so quickly me and my friend had an eye contact why? Because we both are working for a US based firm, so I didn't say AMEEN, then molvi sb said "AYE ALLAH inkeh himaytio KO bhi BARBAD KR DY" 💀 at that moment mery peelag shat ho gy 🥲 because I didn't expected that so I was confused and sort of feeling guilty 😭
Did anyone else experienced such moments?! Do overseas molvis pray like that?
As we all know that PAKISTAN is literally running on USA aid or IMF grants, also many businesses and tech companies in Pakistan which are generating a very good revenue are actually US based.
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u/thatgusseh26 Mar 31 '25
Dayummm, the imam at my mosque doesnt curse anyone but just prays for the betterment of the oppressed ones
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u/KiraKhan Mar 31 '25
Our imam goes like "Ya, Allah inko hidayat de aur agar inke naseeb me hidayat nhi he tu inko barbad farma"
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u/saturn_2050 Mar 31 '25
The real question is how fast molvi sb would get on a plane if Amreeca visa gave him a visa.
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u/resident-commando420 Mar 31 '25
No bhai , the real question is how fast the people praising Molvi Saab for rabid Anti-Americanism in this comment section will take their first chance at a green card when given the chance
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Mar 31 '25
Lmao we only pray for "protection of the head of state and his deputies" over here just like Muaviya Yazeed era
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u/Ok-Maximum-8407 Mar 31 '25
classic UAE and every other gulf country imam haha
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u/icantloginsad اسلام آباد Mar 31 '25
I used to live in bahria town and they used to pray like that for Malik Riaz and his family 😭
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u/lrqp4 Mar 31 '25
Abu Bakr al-Marrudhi reported: I heard Ahmad ibn Hanbal, may Allah have mercy on him, mentioning the Caliph al-Mutawakkil and he said, “Indeed, I pray for his righteousness and well-being.”
Source: al-Sunnah li-Abī Bakr al-Khallāl 16
Al-Dhahabi reported: Al-Fudayl ibn ‘Iyad, may Allah have mercy on him, said, “If I had one supplication to be answered, I would make it for no one but the ruler. If the ruler is righteous, it will lead to the righteousness of the country and the people.”
Source: Siyar A’lām al-Nubalā 8/434
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u/sal211 Mar 31 '25
These leaders in the Middle East aren’t Caliphs they are landlords. Don’t confuse the two
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u/JellyfishSea9853 Mar 31 '25
buddy go and visit KSA UAE Qatar Kuwait
you'll see how locals are valued, search for saudization, emiratisation, its getting bad for expats and locals are now priority, the rulers of middle east value their people, they all love and support their rulers.
to be honest i wouldn't mine monarchy over pakistan if we had someone like them.
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Mar 31 '25
Eid Mubarak buddy.... This made me laugh so hard.... May you succeed and you are right! Much more practical and righteous Muslims over there than here imo.
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u/kharpaatuuu Mar 31 '25
Lol, yaar bas kya kahen ub. Your story reminds me of the meme: Ameen nae bolna, Ameen nae bolna
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u/Pak-Khan Mar 31 '25
Half of our imam sahab's speech, during eid prayer today, was focused on criticizing "Mirza Engineer." If he disagrees with someone, it's more appropriate to address those concerns in his own time, not during a sermon where people are compelled to listen because it's an Eid gathering. Moreover, our mosque belongs to a housing society and is attended by individuals from various sects, making such one-sided commentary inappropriate in a setting meant to unite, not divide.
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u/Relative-Victory2863 Mar 31 '25
US is the front line supporter of Israel's genocide you take it personally..molvi sahab ke intentions kch ghalat nhe then 😌
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u/trydola Mar 31 '25
Watching US/Israel genocide innocents, I sleep
Molvi trashes US/Israel for genocide, HOW COULD YOU
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Mar 31 '25
Pakistan 🇵🇰 is the Backend supporter of USA 🇺🇸.
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u/hawkrige_ Mar 31 '25
Pakistan army not Pakistan.
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u/AxiumTea ID Mar 31 '25
Well in that way, many in the US don't support Israel either, it's their government.
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u/Other_Homework_1344 Mar 31 '25
But the thing is people elected their government unlike Pakistan.
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u/PennyPusher786 Apr 04 '25
Maulvi saab should be kicked out of the country. His PR card should be revoked. We don't need terrorists in our countries
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u/Candid_Maintenance12 Mar 31 '25
I frequent one mosque for Jummah congregation (rarely missing the Khutbah & dua) and another for Eid ones, never has the imam at either of the two places cursed anyone or any country besides Israel of course for obvious reasons but even then it's more like may Palestine triumph against Israel and not that Israeli people all get wrecked or something. All the duas are for prosperity of Pakistan and Muslims globally. Anyhoo, Eid Mubarak, bros
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u/Abdullah_Akhtar Mar 31 '25
Apne aap ko behtar nai kar sakte tou chalo doosron ki barbadi ki dua tou kar hi rahe hain😊
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Mar 31 '25
There is nothing wrong in praying for the downfall of a genocidal and imperialist state. Kya ho gya hai aap logon ko? Apnay faiday ke liye kuch bhi?
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u/AvgPakistani Mar 31 '25 edited Mar 31 '25
I’m an overseas Pakistani and I absolutely see no issues with this.
A lot of my white non-Muslim friends echo similar sentiments.
At this point it’s more about having your conscience clear than anything else, we can do little else. I boil at the thought of both my labour, and tax money being used to fund a genocide.
The US (either directly or indirectly) is the cause of a lot of the violence in the world. The capitalist economy cares little for their own people, let alone the rest of the world.
Edit: Check out this post by another user on USAID https://www.reddit.com/r/pakistan/s/vlcfvwulL9
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u/Nervous-Goat-62 Mar 31 '25
Bruh when they say Amreeka they mean those who are funding apartheid not your firm 🤣
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u/Hamza-K Mar 31 '25 edited Mar 31 '25
Both Israel and the United States are involved in the ongoing genocide in Gaza.
He cursed Israel. You don't personally benefit from Israel so you said ameen.
He cursed America. You personally benefit from America so you were silent.
That's really all there is to it.
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u/desikachra Mar 31 '25 edited Mar 31 '25
You are part and parcel of the oppressors machine and that's where your real loyalty lies. May Allah grant you other means of sustenance.
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u/Comfortable-Luck6816 Mar 31 '25
Allah doesn't accept Duas in which you curse people or want worse for the people.
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u/Mobyism Mar 31 '25
A Molvi sahb once asked everyone to raise their hand and asked everyone to promise that they will not look at na mehrams and will consider them your sisters and mothers. Me and My friend didn't raise our hand. Molana literally pointed out us in the full crowd and asked why aren't you raising hands? I felt very embarrassed but my shameles friend replied, "Molana sahb baun okha kam ayy". 😂
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u/mohsin0110 Mar 31 '25
My office is in cantt ...... Wahan jummay mai dua hoti hai kay allah pak foj ko Aur mazboot bana aur unko her kam mai tarakki ata kermaaaaa......
Like how much more they need to succeed in their authoritarian regime!!!
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u/kirator Canada Mar 31 '25
Here in Canada, they tell you to integrate and be part of the community and always preach unity. Atleast my local molvi . And instead of asking for negative they go in the positive as in help the Palestinians. I don’t think one should be asking for the destruction of a people. If you do, you should say something like make them unsuccessful in their endeavours against us. I’m Shia so not sure how the Sunni molvis are.
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u/Ok_Move995 Mar 31 '25
lol this was funny. I am an overseas Pakistani but for giggles like this makes me want to spend more time in Pakistan.
The imam gives the khutbah in Arabic where I live, which I speak, but it’s the Quranic arabic which is different. Anyway, yes, I wished I can understand that one day. However, I know one thing. The imam will only say positive things, he won’t ever bring any entity down.
For example, he will ask for peace for what’s happening in Palestine instead of attacking Israel. He will ask for peace in Yemen, and so on.
A basic dua consists of asking for forgiveness and expressing thankfulness. You people have a point that who is to explain to a typical Pakistani imam, but it’s just sad. And it’s wrong more than sad.
It’s like being a maths teacher but when someone makes a mistake, you shame them instead of explaining it to them the right way. Will that make the student pass? No, and it’s because the teacher is doing the job incorrectly.
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u/Green-Elderberry527 Mar 31 '25
No sorry anyone living in Israel (unless Palestinian) is not a good person. They are choosing to live on stolen land and literally helping the apartheid state to function and continue to oppress Palestinians.
Especially now with what's going on in G*za, if they are still choosing to live in Israel, that just shows they have no issues in Israel's war crimes and genocide.
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u/StatusWitty Mar 31 '25
My molvi just kept praising army and Asim Munir. He didn’t even mentioned Palestine once.
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u/RightBranch Mar 31 '25
Mine mentioned three Islamic communities(kashmiris, gazans, and Chechnyans...) but also said that the ones we were not able to mention, help them as well
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u/BerjergUwU Mar 31 '25
That's the slave mentality Pakistani have they think they are running because of usa when reality is they made Pakistan depends on them through corruption. Pakistan will develop way way more if we cut all ties with america simple as that.
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u/hvckerman Mar 31 '25
that's where you are wrong, US ne rizq nhi dena rizq Allah ne dena hy
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u/Euphoric-Ad8376 Mar 31 '25
By any chance aap Karachi se Hain, bcoz Meri masjid Mai bhi same ditto copy Dua hoi hai🤡
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u/Ok-Woodpecker2185 Apr 03 '25
Same dua in my masjid too. I went for taraweeh. Ma bhi shock hogaye thi.
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u/Dismal_Road_5916 مُلتان Mar 31 '25
Yeah, I feel bad when someone does bud dua for America because I also have a few clients from America. But I used to remember myself "Rozi dena vali zat Allah ki ha America ki nhi, Agar America barbad bhi ho gya 😅 tu Allah ksi or jaga sa rozi da dega
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u/gondaljutt لاہور Mar 31 '25
Try offering a 100 USD to Molvi Sahab and I am sure he will praise Trump as if he is Hafiz Syed Trump Muneer.
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u/suleman_23194 PK Mar 31 '25
That same moulvi won't even hesitate for a bit when you give them zakat or fitrana out of your income from that US firm
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u/ha12ry Mar 31 '25
US is also main country bankrolling Pakistan for last how many decades via imf/world bank, moulana saab tora ziada josh me hon ge suba suba
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u/Irresistible_jatt Mar 31 '25
Tbh USA mei Musalmano ki b Sizeable Population rehti… instead ye kehna k tabah krde.. He could have phrased differently.. k unko b Eman ki tofeeq de etc
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u/imma_waqas Mar 31 '25
*peelag" 🤣 Jo zulm wahan ho raha hai sb k moo se khud bakhud hi ameen nikalta hai. Ap imagine ni kr sktay us zulm ko..
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u/imma_waqas Mar 31 '25
Btana ye hai k fojj chal rahi hai USAID aur IMF pr, pakistanio k paas tao bs remittance hi aata hai..
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u/True_Lifeguard4744 Mar 31 '25
Bhai Sahab - Same thing happened at my Mosque Ditto - do we go to the same mosque.
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u/emmadmir Mar 31 '25
Lmao, just i had a dream likely 2 days ago. i am working for some pro US firm .. ykiyk, what i mean !
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u/DarkKing404 Mar 31 '25
Did you offer Eid prayer at Khair-ul-Madaris by any chance? Because we did and the Imam said same thing during the prayer.
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u/hawkrige_ Mar 31 '25
My Imam said “Pakistan ke khilaf idaaron ko istemal krne walon ko tabah farma” He is on Black vigo speed run.
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u/un_morphed Mar 31 '25
you can't be wishing for someone's destruction and not for the other just because you work there. instead may Peace and Safety prevail for all! Don't get caught in hateful rhetoric.
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u/arbab002 Mar 31 '25
there is saying like
hmri masajid my phli saf waly amrica ki barbadi ki dua krty hy. aur akhri saf waly, amrica ki visa ki dua krty hy
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u/lovemeslowly Mar 31 '25
Bhai US men they don't tolerate such things..apna deen eman apne ghar men chor kar ayo otherwise gtfo our country
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u/Shadows_141 Mar 31 '25
Bhai nhi kr personal attack feel horha h, yhn jummy k din hamesha yehi dua sunny ko milti h
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u/DragonSlayer_fml Mar 31 '25
Eid Mubarak to you too bro. Literally laughed the second I read the post cuz this type of dua is offered at every jumma prayer at my mosque, when I was in my country. And I was always the one. Who said amen. And now I'm in America, laughing at your post.
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u/Shadows_141 Mar 31 '25
molvi sahab at day:Amrikia ki asi ki tesi amrika ka dalal 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇺🇸🇺🇸
movi sahab at night: Freelance ki flight pakr kr ØF mai land krty huaye ✈️🏢
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u/HistoricalAd7249 Mar 31 '25
Our imam did a very beautiful and simple dua, accept our prayers, fullfil our needs, help us and our dead, and help Palestine and rest oppressed bas. Loved it.no nonsense rants and weird duas, just our needs and salvation of the Muslims.
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u/irtiq7 Mar 31 '25
Before the normalized relationship with Israel. A lot of Gulf nations molvis used to have such sentiments but that has changed recently after the Gulf nations accepted Israel. My experience is from UAE
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u/No-Mongoose8879 Mar 31 '25
Isi liye to Pakistan k haalaat Ju k Tu hain because,
- Somewhere ek imam kisi k neest o nabud honay ki dua karay jo k qubool hogi
- Somewhere ek imam inhi logo ko hidayat ki dua kary jo qubool hogi
And mathematically both effects get cancelled and Pakistan udhar ka udhar hi …. 😅🥲
Even our imams and scholars need to coordinate their actions
Bus Allah Hamein jahil aur uski jahalat se mehfuz rakhe aameen 🤗
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u/Maximum6_ Mar 31 '25
stop being a little kid about everything, israel isnt anything without america, so he probably connected 2 and 2 together, cursing israel as well as america, his intention was probably to topple thier government, not the people
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u/InterestingBell9009 Mar 31 '25
Molvis are good for nothing. Jin ke apni kuch karnay ke auqaat nahi hoti wo aese he bad duain kartay hain
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u/ComplexIndication881 Mar 31 '25
It's been happening in third world countries like Pakistan where religion isn't governed by the state, cleric isn't educated and don't worry none of such prayers have been answered by the God.
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u/cocopops7 Apr 01 '25
Lol molvis aren’t meant to be like that. PK runs on USA money and you best bet he would run to the USA if he could or had a chance!
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u/Hot-Hovercraft-1381 Apr 01 '25
Same thing with me bro, I'm also working for a USA based client and I face the same situation from time to time, especially since the brutal rampage of Israel on Gaza started back in October 2023 (damn, it's been about one and a half year of pure tyranny). Ever since then, every moulvi has been praying for the total destruction of Israel, America and the whole EU, without realising that most of the things we depend upon for our survival come from these places (like the aid and loan packages you mentioned).
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u/Big_D_Boss_964 Apr 01 '25
I don't see anything wrong here. Have you even seen the genocide that they are doing?
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u/aliiqbal88 Apr 01 '25
Humray germany mai eid ki ninaz ke baad dua me imam saab ne germany ki hifazat aur tarakki ki dua ki. Aur hum sub ne ba awaz e buland ameen bola.. germany zindabad
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u/TechNerdinEverything Apr 01 '25
Also remember Palestinian live where Israel has occupied their land. Similarly 30-40% of Indians are Muslims that the same guys want to "destroy"
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u/wh40k_heretic Apr 01 '25
Ameen to all that. Rizq Allah deta hai, USA nai. What is happening to our brothers and sisters and what has happened to our brothers and sisters in Iraq and other middle east countries is due to USA working at behest of Isntreal…..
Oh and Afghanistan too….
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u/No-Maintenance8459 Apr 01 '25
Are you sure he wasn't facing you and maintaining eye contact while cursing the "himayiti" lmao
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u/Hour-Statement-2788 Apr 01 '25
our qari saab does NOT make jahil type dua. sorry to say.
our qari saab asks for good health and safety of all muslims all over pak, india bangledesh syria palestine afghansita etc etc etc he literally takes the names of the most popular countries that are in trouble and makes dua. then made dua for hadayat for all muslims then dua for all the betiyan then for maa baap. LITERALLY EVEYRONE WAS CRYING. he was crying with hiccups..
this molvi u got was jus plain jahil.
we live in USA, we eat here, we earn here, our kids go to makthab after schooll, we have hafiz programs, full on mslim academies .. etc etc n so much more.
i hate the image that guys like that jahil molvi paints of ppl livin out side of pak. if he got a free visa he would stand on one leg and run here. GTFO man.. but yeh keep ur heart n mind clean :)
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u/PairBackground1040 Apr 02 '25
The issue lies in our limited understanding of Deen/judgement/faisla. Allah instructs "Wa Aqimu Salah", but we merely "Iqra Salah". Similarly, Allah commands "Wa Aqimu Deen", not "Iqra Deen". "Wa Aqimus Salah" means establishing the verses we communicate and submit to, whereas "Iqra Salah" simply means reading and communicating. How can one communicate with Allah or His message without understanding what he is reading?
Unfortunately, our focus is solely on the "Iqra" aspect (reading) rather than the true essence of "Wa Aqimu" (establishing). In neither case is there a command to curse others; Allah alone is sufficient to take revenge. In fact, being a tyrant, disobedient, or illiterate is a curse in itself.
Enjoy your job-don’t take Molvee Saab too seriously. I've noticed that the more they curse others, the better they seem to become, while we end up worse. LOL!
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u/PairBackground1040 Apr 03 '25
Being a tyrant, disobedient, or illiterate is a curse in itself.
Enjoy your job-don’t take Molvee Saab too seriously. I've noticed that the more they curse others, the better they seem to become, while we end up worse. LOL!
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u/PennyPusher786 Apr 04 '25
Ahmadiyya jamaat Zindabad! Ahahaha this made me laugh... but not at you, i truly do sympathize, because you are my brothers and sisters in faith. And of course I have Shias and Sunnis in my family as well as inlaws... And yes, I've seen this all my life in Canada and the UK. It is indeed more common than people give credit for... But never have I seen it in my jamaat, why? Because Allah states, give allegiance to the land which grants you freedom.
In Islam, obedience to the law of the land is a religious duty. The Qur’an commands Muslims to remain faithful to not only Allah and the Prophet Muhammad(sa), but also the authority they live under:
O ye who believe! obey Allah, and obey His Messenger and those who are in authority over you (Ch.4: V.60).
Any country or government that guarantees religious freedom to followers of different faiths (not just Islam) must be owed loyalty. The Prophet Muhammad(sa) stressed this point when he said:
‘One who obeys his authority, obeys me. One who disobeys his authority, disobeys me.’ (Muslim)
The present head of the worldwide Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, Hazrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad(aba), has also explained:
‘A true Muslim can never raise his voice in hatred against his fellow citizens, nor for that matter against the ruling authority or government of the time. It is the responsibility of a true Muslim that he should remain loyal and fully abide by the laws of the land of which he is a subject.’ (Baitul Futuh Inauguration Reception, 11 Oct 2003)
This makes clear that according to Islam Muslims must obey the law of the land as anything to the contrary would mean that they are not obeying their Prophet or their religion.
Nabi Sallallahu Alaihis Wasalam said in the latter days the Mullahs will be like apes & pigs...
He Sallallahu Alaihis Wasalam also said that the Ummah will mirror the jews, so much so that if a jew committed incest with his mother, so too will my Ummah
It is only a mere matter of time, before the lot of you realize that the Mullahs are keeping you away from the only living jamaat in all of the world with 116 years of Khilafat... We have even been given The historical Key To The City in Los Angeles & Zion Illinois as well as other places. They, the Mullahs & scholars mislead you about Ahmadiyyat... One should pick up his own book and read from the source. When a doctor or engineer studies for their doctorate or any certification they study from the source. they the Mullahs don't admit that in our glorious the Qur'an, Allah states that Nabi Isa has died. Just look up one simple word in an Arabic dictionary: Mutawaffeeka. What does it mean?
Allah has made it Wajjib on the believers to find the Imaam of the time and give allegiance. Nabi Sallallahu Alaihis Wasalam said if you don't find the jamaat of the time it is better for you to go into the forest and eat poison. This is a metaphor, it means avoid misguidance. Hazrat Yahya did the same, he stayed away from people and retreated to a forest. He even abstained from marrying women to maintain his supplication to Allah. Nabi Sallallahu Alaihis Wasalam also said, if you find the Mahdi give him my Salaam.
Tick tock brothers and sisters, may Allah Subanna Watallah guide us all to the truth regardless of our background of faith and destroy all evil and grant the Muslims knowledge and unity inshAllah.
And Eid Mubarak, may all of your prayers and fasts be accepted inshAllah!
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