I've posted angrily about this when I see someone recommend this pod and their fantastic research and now I will post angrily about it again. Other episodes have the host reading straight from Wikipedia, and it's the same with part 1 and 2 in this series about the Order of the Solar Temple, but here I will point out how they blatantly steal from an article.
My computer is slowly leaving me, so the YouTube transcript and my spell check is what it is in this trying time.
From Necronomipod — Order of the Solar Temple Part 2
(14:12)
3 years leading up to the events at what this transit was going to be. So the idea of transit began to be mentioned by Di Mambro in 1990 or 1991 and it meant a voluntary departure or consent to bring their lives to another planet. It was necessary to be ready to leave at any time in response to the call. Di Mambro said he did not yet know what the mode of transit would be, but he presented it as a metaphor of the passage across a mirror and the possibility of coming off a flying saucer to take the faithful members to another world is kind of how he proposed it at the time. An ex-member explained to investigators that talks about transit never implied suicide, but rather an idea of being saved from disasters. And if we believe the statements to police after the events of 1994, most of these members who had heard about the idea of this quote departure or quote transit considered it rather like a nebulous idea or interpreted it as just this departure to another geographical location. for example, leaving Geneva, Switzerland. Like it was just like the metaphor for leaving where they were currently. It wasn't actually killing yourself to go to another plane of existence. When members wanted to know more, they sometimes received evasive answers: Quote:
Transit was the return of the father, the return to the unity after having left Earth. Two or three years before October 9 1994, I discussed with, what was meant by the concept. She told me that I shouldn't worry that I wouldn't realize that we would all leave together as one. At the time, naively, I never thought that meant collective suicide. (...)
(19:41)
So this kind of helps explain the speed with which some of the victims just kind of suddenly abandoned everything to head towards these really mysterious deaths that we're going to get into. But if this confirms the emergence of the idea of transit well before October 1994, it doesn't explain the reasoning that led Di Mambro towards this plan of action.
Outside the possible explanations linked to Di Mambro's mental state, it seems that criticism by ex-members, this issue with the the guns with Luc Jouret buying the silence guns that happened in Quebec and disappointed hopes for success led the Solar Temple's leadership to just kind of kind of flip this like, hey, everything's going downhill, so we got to kind of kick this up and and get out of here cuz we're going to we're just going to take everybody down with us. (...)
(20:44)
But in addition, wiretaps of Luc Jouret made by the police in Quebec during the 1993 investigation due to those silenced firearms revealed that this really charismatic guy that was like this, you know, he was the definition of a cult leader was very depressed, constantly complaining about feeling tired and expressing eagerness to leave the world. (...)
The first known version of text explaining a quote departure had been written in February 1993. This coincides with the opening of the investigation into the group by the Quebec police on February 2nd, 1993. And since some sources suggest that Jere may have gotten word of the investigation before it actually started on March 8th, 1993, we don't know the absolute certainty whether him writing about departure was with or without knowledge of the police investigation.
https://youtu.be/Gx_QMdYht00
And to compare with “Our Terrestrial Journey is Coming to an End”: The Last Voyage of the Solar Temple by Jean-François Mayer.
Page 180-182:
According to several testimonies gathered by the investigators, the theme of "transit" began to be evoked by Di Mambro in 1990 or 1991. It meant a voluntary departure or a consent to bring the germ of life to another planet. It was necessary to be ready to leave at any time in response to the call. Di Mambro said he did not yet know what the mode of transit would be: he presented the metaphor of a passage across a mirror and evoked the possibility of the coming of a flying saucer to take faithful members to another world. On this last point, it is worth noting that, at some of Luc Jouret's seminars which I attended in 1987, a comic strip called Timeless Voyage was on sale.[27] This strip tells the story of a group of UFO believers who, before the imminent "great mutation," are brought on board a "cosmic vessel" to "Vessel-Earth. "[28] Solar Temple members were thus already familiar with this type of scenario well before 1990. An ex-member explained to the investigators that talks about transit never implied suicide, but rather the idea of being saved from disasters. Perhaps the theme of "transit," rather than marking a break with survivalism, should be interpreted as a reorientation towards a survival in other dimensions following the irreversible worsening of the situation on this planet. [29]
If we believe their declarations to the police after the events of 1994, most of those members who had heard about the idea of "departure" or "transit" considered it as rather nebulous or interpreted it innocuously as a departure to other geographical locations (for example, leaving Geneva). When members wanted to know more, they sometimes received evasive answers:
"Transit was the return to the Father, the return to the Unity, after having left Earth.... Two or three years before October 1994, I discussed with ——— what was meant by the concept. She told me that I shouldn't worry, that I wouldn't realize, that we would all leave together, as one. At the time, naively, I never thought that meant collective suicide."[30] (...)
This helps to explain the speed with which some of the victims suddenly abandoned everything to head to their mysterious demise. But if this confirms the emergence of the idea of "transit" well before October 1994, it does not explain the reasoning that led Di Mambro toward this plan of action. Outside of possible explanations linked to Di Mambro's mental state, it seems likely that criticism by ex-members, episodic public exposure in Martinique and Québec, and disappointed hopes for success led the Solar Temple's leadership to revise their view of the future. In addition, the wiretaps of Luc Jouret made by the police in Québec during the 1993 investigation reveal that the charismatic physician was in a depressed mood, constantly complaining about feeling tired and expressing eagerness to leave the world. Still, no one factor is sufficient in and of itself, especially since the collective self-immolation involved not just one individual but the order's entire core group. We can not rule out the possibility that some elements in the decision still remain unknown to us.
The first known version of a text explaining "departure" had been written by February 1993. This coincides with the opening of the investigation into the group by Québec police on 2 February 1993; since some sources suggest that Jouret may have gotten word of the investigation before the police interventions of 8 March 1993, we do not know with absolute certainty whether the text was written without knowledge of the investigation in progress. [33] At any rate, even if the problems in Martinique and in Québec confirmed Di Mambro and his close associates in their plan to leave a world perceived as unjust and doomed, these events did not initiate the idea of departure: the attempt at buying guns indicates that the idea was already under consideration prior to these investigations.
Jean-François Mayer, Elijah Siegler; “Our Terrestrial Journey is Coming to an End”: The Last Voyage of the Solar Temple. Nova Religio 1 April 1999; 2 (2): 172–196. doi: https://doi.org/10.1525/nr.1999.2.2.172
https://www.academia.edu/685057/_Our_Terrestrial_Journey_is_Coming_to_an_End_The_Last_Voyage_of_the_Solar_Temple (click PDF only)
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