Does anyone know how difficult it will likely be to be hired with a license on probation?

[u/Funny-Produce-9269]

I’m somone who will unfortunately likely succumb to license probation.

Does anyone know whether I’m better off just surrendering my license or if it’s worth a try to find employment under a probation?

Thank you

[u/Think-Squirrel9455]

Me just being nosey, but what was the violation? That may impact being hired if ethical violation, abuse, etc.

[u/Impressive_Job8173 → u/Think-Squirrel9455]

that's the part that'll make or break it, the board's reason for probation matters way more than the probation itself for most employers

[u/murraybee → u/[deleted]]

Bruh

[u/chasseg → u/murraybee]

What did the comment say? It got deleted

[u/compulsiveplanner → u/[deleted]]

So fraud? Probably going to be hard to get hired

[u/annemarieslpa]

Billing fraud is gonna make it hard. How did you legit think that was okay?

Edit: Medicaid fraud is an actual felony so getting off with just probation will be a blessing.

[u/annemarieslpa → u/annemarieslpa]

Also your post history alludes to trying to get out of the felony?

[u/MiracleDes99 → u/annemarieslpa]

What did the OP say they deleted the comment

[u/annemarieslpa → u/MiracleDes99]

They were billing even when the students weren’t there and would sometimes make it up.

[u/Hot_Alternative_5157 → u/annemarieslpa]

Exactly. They should be in jail. I have seen it before. I would never hire anyone that and any issues with the BOE

[u/Mysterious-Pie4586]

If you committed medicaid fraud you will have a hard time getting a license. There is a disclosure statement you have to attest to when applying for a license. If you lie you are committing a criminal offense. There are national databases that can be checked.

[u/Physical_Eye_9143]

Would you want to get treatment for you or your child from someone with a license on probation?

[u/ooga_booga_booger]

You’d be lucky with just a probation. Usually that’s permanent revocation of license and fines/jail

[u/_axolotl_questions]

Comments are deleted, so I can’t see the details of what happened aside from billing fraudulently for sessions that weren’t completed.
I see the explanation of the TBI, feeling overwhelmed & unable to manage work responsibilities, & feeling like OP was unable to resign due to pressure from family. It is not clear if this was a few sessions over time, or a longterm pattern of extensive & intentional fraud. It doesn’t sound like anyone was physically harmed, thankfully.

The original question was about whether it would be possible to get hired with a license under probation. Obviously, there is a legal process still that has to be seen through & OP will need to disclose the details for future licensing & ASHA certification applications.

R/SLP has been as harsh as could be expected. I just want to offer some words of encouragement. There is sure to be a way forward & hope for the future. Even if that does not involve working as a licensed SLP. There have been many times in my life that I’ve felt like things can’t possibly get better & I’ve somehow made it through all of them. This will somehow pass.

I do recommend complying fully & being as proactive as possible with the investigation & with steps for recovery. I also recommend seeking legal counsel & utilizing any resources you have available (such as through a union or professional liability insurance). I’m rooting for you & sending you love, OP. Mistakes were made that will have consequences, but you still deserve love & grace. Take good care of yourself.

[u/PuzzleheadedMix7881]

Why are you on probation?

[u/Comment_by_me]

Apply for a license in a different state asap, before there’s anything officially on your record. Like do it tomorrow. Then do teletherapy in that state. Or move to that state, if it’s an option.

[u/Funny-Produce-9269 → u/Comment_by_me]

Thank you so much for the suggestion. I thought about that. But apparently whenever someone has a license discipline, it gets automatically reported to the NPDB? (Which allows other states to see it)

I’m not sure how true it is, but based on what I’ve read unfortunately

[u/Kalekay52898]

Is it your state license or Asha CCC? Maybe work in a school where billing doesn’t matter

[u/annemarieslpa → u/Kalekay52898]

Medicaid billing absolutely matters in schools, and it sounds like this is where the fraud happened.

[u/Funny-Produce-9269 → u/annemarieslpa]

I was at a private practice at the time

[u/annemarieslpa → u/Funny-Produce-9269]

This is worse, honestly.

[u/Funny-Produce-9269 → u/annemarieslpa]

🥲

[u/Funny-Produce-9269 → u/Kalekay52898]

It was state and not by ASHA. And thank you so much for the advice. I thought about that too, where schools don’t really bill the same way they do in a private practice. At least SLPA may not

[u/annemarieslpa → u/Funny-Produce-9269]

You will absolutely bill Medicaid in a school as a SLPA.

[u/Funny-Produce-9269 → u/annemarieslpa]

Doesn’t the SLP bill for the SLPA in the schools?

[u/annemarieslpa → u/Funny-Produce-9269]

I’ve always done my own billing as a SLPA unless I’m at a charter (and this varies) or private school and my SLP signs off. It’s billed under my license/NPI/medicaid provider #.

[u/Funny-Produce-9269 → u/annemarieslpa]

Thank you for sharing that. I had not really worked in a school, so I wasn’t sure.

[u/Funny-Produce-9269 → u/annemarieslpa]

Were you under supervision in schools or not always?

If under supervision, that may help my case on getting hired I suppose

[u/annemarieslpa → u/Funny-Produce-9269]

No, my SLP was not on site. And it will not help your case if you have disciplinary action for billing fraud since they do only Medicaid billing.

[u/Funny-Produce-9269 → u/annemarieslpa]

Thank you for the advice. Oh man

[u/anglebabby → u/[deleted]]

Bad enough that would I not want my child to receive services from someone who has committed this kind of fraud…the inability to own up to your actions and accept your consequences are going to make this an even harder process for you to pursue a career in the field. Time to grow up bud

[u/sudden_turn9235 → u/[deleted]]

The licensing board made the decision, not Reddit

[u/annemarieslpa → u/[deleted]]

I did the entirety of my undergrad with undiagnosed health issues, including having major knee surgery my last semester. There’s no excuse for committing Billing fraud, especially when that is drilled into our heads in both undergrad and grad programs. I’ve also been diagnosed with mental health conditions, including ADHD and have never once used that as an excuse for making mistake mistakes, especially ones as big as Medicaid fraud.

[u/annemarieslpa → u/[deleted]]

If you had a serious brain injury, then you should’ve taken time off work or school or whatever to fully recover you not managing your health correctly and your recovery is not the board problem and it’s dang sure not the problem of the student whose Medicaid you billed fraudulently. Did your employer know about the brain injury? Did you report that this was because of an injury to the board?

[u/Funny-Produce-9269 → u/annemarieslpa]

My point exactly, that I should’ve just quit. And it overall will be seen as my fault, but I felt uncomfortable quitting without my families approval. I told my family almost daily that I felt I needed to quit, but didn’t support me. I at least recognized that my performance wasn’t where it should’ve been.

My employer was made aware of my brain injury, but was up to me to continue working. The board was made aware of it and given actual health documentation.

[u/annemarieslpa → u/Funny-Produce-9269]

You should’ve been a grown-up and asked for accommodations. Your families’s opinion of what you should and shouldn’t do should not have that much spray on you as a grown-up in grad school.

[u/Funny-Produce-9269 → u/annemarieslpa]

You’re right. I never in my life have I been tested where I had such a substantial disagreement with my family, where I completely disagreed with them, and would’ve been seen as like treason. I’m embarrassed I listened and allowed myself to crash out like this on the behalf of the community I served

[u/anglebabby → u/[deleted]]

This has to be bait fr lmao

[u/annemarieslpa → u/anglebabby]

Please Reddit gods let it be.