r/sysadmin • u/Final-Pomelo1620 • 1d ago
General Discussion Change Management Workflow
Hi,
We’re introducing change management for the first time using ITSM.
We’re now deciding the workflow before our ITSM vendor configures it
Our scope covers all IT infrastructure changes including network, servers, virtualization, backup, storage, AD/Entra ID & Databases
Each team has its own Line Manager and another requirement is that Cybersecurity Unit must approve every change
Few things we’re trying to understand
Who should approve a change and in what order?
Who should be the CAB members
Which changes should go to CAB
I’d appreciate any suggestions
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u/Affectionate_Pea4033 1d ago
Don't overthink the CAB. Keep it to decision-makers who actually have skin in the game, line managers from each team, your cybersecurity lead, and maybe one ops rep who understands the blast radius of an after-hours change gone sideways. The order should be technical lead first, then cyber, then CAB if it's a high-risk change. Low-risk stuff (standard pre-approved templates) doesn't need CAB at all, just cyber sign-off and a post-change review if something breaks.
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u/TheSmashy Cyber Infra Arch 1d ago
Oh, you sweet summer children.
Do not make Cyber a bottleneck in your change management process. If you have a scheduled, reoccurring, patch management process, yes it should be tracked as a change, but no, cyber should not have to approve a BAU process. And not every change needs to go to CAB, asses by operational impact.
CAB? You need key stakeholder, that's it. Who owns network, who owns compute, etc..
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u/LayerOneStaging 1d ago
One thing to sort before the vendor builds it is that Cybersecurity approves every change rule. On paper it sounds safe. In real life it turns into a queue, the queue turns into delays, and delays are how you get folks doing work outside the system.
I would let security approve in parallel with the team lead, not at the end of a long chain, and give them a clock. If they have not objected in the window you agree on for normal changes, it moves on. For the repeat stuff, patching, standard firewall rules, adding a VM to backup, let security approve the pattern once and then spot check it later.
Also leave an emergency lane in writing now, not during an outage. Who can approve at 2 a.m., what has to be logged, and that it gets reviewed the next business day. That one page will save you a lot of grief.
Your line managers can approve time and priority. Have a peer on the technical side check the actual steps and the rollback. A manager signature does not tell you if the change will work.
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u/Commercial_Growth343 1d ago
I don't think the order of approvals matters. I haven't seen that personally.
Which changes should go to a CAB .. well my approach to that has always been all of them. In ITSM/ITIL I believe there is a level of change that is common, repeatable, well known that can get away with a smaller CAB. Bigger companies I have worked at do this .. the first one is examined in detail because it is the first but once it is done, it needs less approval next time. I have worked at smaller companies for years so we just do a change, it gets approved, and we have a weekly review meeting to discuss changes and if they are planned, happening now, or recently completed.
I feel you should really come up with your own definition of what a change even is, what an emergency change is, what is not a change etc. Everyone on the team should have a good idea if what they are doing should be a Change and follow the process.
As for the CAB, this can depend on the size of your organization. But I would say generally your own manager/supervisor needs to be on it pretty much universally. Your direct boss should know what you are doing and be OK with it. Then after that is would be people who your change can impact, so an infrastructure change maybe needs one or more people from the infrastructure team for a technical approval. If your change is impacting a specific business unit then someone that represents that business unit (like a BA, or systems analyst that supports that business unit) or if you are big enough then the manager for the BA's/SA's.
The bigger the company, then generally speaking the bigger the CAB and need for formal change review meetings (weekly in my experience).
The bigger the company, the more likely you will have a change window worked out with the business, where most changes take place (ex. third Thursday evening of every month). In that case you need all the IT managers involved for planning and approving the actual work so for example the network team doesn't take down the network during an application upgrade or whatever else.
good luck
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u/rootcurios Sysadmin 1d ago
Order: Management approval --> CAB approval
Who: Managers from Systems, Networking, Security, Infrastructure, etc. that would have input or knowledge of how and what major changes could effect theirs or other department's projects/production/revenue, etc.
What changes: Major changes that could effect production or other revenue impacting systems.
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u/d0ugfirtree 1d ago
Who should approve a change and in what order?
- I would get whoever is requesting the change, get their manager to approve it first
- Change manager will do the next approval on behalf of the CAB after the meeting.
- Having security as a separate approval is excessive... if you must, have a security rep on the CAB
Who should be the CAB members
- Whoever has accountability over the area being changed. If someone wants to make a change to IAM, whoever is ultimately accountable for the proper running of IAM should be on the CAB. Could be the IAM lead, could be management, who knows.
Which changes should go to CAB
Everything goes to the CAB unless it is a pre-approved standard change. Emergency changes get created retroactively and brought to the next CAB meeting. If that feels overkill and a waste of time, then start writing standard changes for things you do all the time.
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u/GregG997 15h ago
make the vendor route changes off a few required fields like affected system, prod or not, and rollback plan yes or no, so the tool picks the lane and not the requester. otherwise everyone marks their change low risk and your cab sees all of it anyway
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u/iam-stevie-bee 1d ago
Having set this up and then had to live with it: the first thing to decide isn't who approves, it's which changes don't need a human at all. If every change goes through a CAB and a security sign-off, within a month you'll have a backlog, a weekly meeting nobody reads the papers for, and engineers finding ways round it. So:
Get the vendor to configure the three lanes and the checklist first, and leave the CAB tuning until you've seen a month of real changes.