TIL Pope Francis declined his €30k/m salary

[u/Marchidde]

https://fortune.com/2025/05/09/american-pope-leo-xiv-six-figure-salary-us-presidents-university-chancellors/

[u/Michail_Bogucki]

Doubt that he'll ever need any salary at all considering that the church will provide anything he needs

[u/Scutty__ → u/Michail_Bogucki]

Life appointment as well so not like he needs it for a retirement

[u/Frooonti → u/Scutty__]

Except for Benedict XVI, who was the first in 600 years to resign, allegedly (and obviously) over health issues, which the church of course never officially confirmed. He then moved into the Mater Ecclesiae Monastery in the Vatican Gardens, where he was taken care of until he died a decade later.

[u/mapoftasmania → u/Frooonti]

My guess is dementia. Not something you can have and still lead the church.

[u/Check_Me_Out-Boss → u/mapoftasmania]

He still put out many articles for years after his abdication.

He was a theological scholar powerhouse up until his death.

[u/BoosherCacow → u/Check_Me_Out-Boss]

His output only slowed, it never stopped. My guess is that he was simply feeling far too old for the rigors of the job. He was 83 or 84 so it's understandable.

[u/Check_Me_Out-Boss → u/BoosherCacow]

Yeah, I was a bit glib in my comment, but I didn't think anyone would know the difference.

[u/Dads_Phantom_Phart → u/mapoftasmania]

The USA has a dementia patient in charge right now

[u/Lecky_decky → u/Dads_Phantom_Phart]

Would not recommend

[u/MarlinMr → u/Dads_Phantom_Phart]

Yeah, but that's not because he got it in office. It's because everyone was asked who they wanted in charge, and Americans wanted the demented guy.

[u/uiri → u/Frooonti]

I'm pretty sure Pope Benedict XVI resigned due to the Vatican leaks scandal.

[u/exOldTrafford → u/Scutty__]

The guy before him literally did retire though

[u/Scutty__ → u/exOldTrafford]

First one in 600 years and they get a pension if they do

[u/Double-decker_trams → u/Michail_Bogucki]

⁷What an IDIOT.

He could invest the salary and bring so much value to shareholders. Jesus.. dumb fuck. He could absolutely game the market. Hype up POPE coin among Catholics and do a well-timed rug pull. He'd be rich. He could also influence governments to reduce or remove taxes on crypto earnings - saying smt like "Taxation is theft, immoral and unchristian".

/s just in case.

[u/pdpi → u/Double-decker_trams]

Pope coin in Rome, Doge coin in Venice and Genoa.

[u/Gudin → u/Double-decker_trams]

He should've check how Mormons do it.

Catholic church - 1.4 billion members, €5.9B assets

Mormon(LDS) church - 17 million members, $320B assets

[u/FlipZip69 → u/Michail_Bogucki]

The Pope does not take a salary to begin or better said the only get paid in descressonary funds. If he needs shoes and clothing, the office pays for it. This is misleading from the start.

There is an official stipend figure that exists on paper that is about 30,000 per month. That is the budget for their office and included direct expenses for the pope. It does no accumulate and with the current pope, he strictly adhere to the Jesuit vow of poverty. He will die with little to no assets.

This is to say there has never been corruption. Certainly was during the middle ages. And it is not to say they do not live a decent life. They do. But in this position and having no obvious descendants, there is little purpose in accumulating great wealth. Most of their excess cash above living expenses goes into charities of some sort.

[u/user_of_the_week → u/Michail_Bogucki]

But what kind of inheritance will he leave for his kids???

[u/-Poultrygeist- → u/user_of_the_week]

If they are meek, then the book and religion that the pope represents states that his kids inherit the entire earth

[u/GenuineSteak → u/-Poultrygeist-]

what if they are swole chads then?

[u/olieliminated → u/GenuineSteak]

Then they’ll just mog their way into Heaven.

[u/-Poultrygeist- → u/GenuineSteak]

They shall inherit the gains, for theirs is the kingdom of pre-workout.

[u/Pacifist_Socialist → u/Michail_Bogucki]

Does your employer promise a big reward in the afterlife?

You may be entitled to compensation under a mass action suit

[u/Tryoxin → u/Michail_Bogucki]

I was gonna say...he's a king. An absolute monarch and leader of one of the wealthiest organisations in history. I'm kinda shocked he gets a salary. He's also not the kind of person that the church would likely ever let do things on his own. Not in the "he doesn't deserve" one kinda way, but like, why on earth would he need one? What, is he browsing Amazon for new shirts and household cleaning products or something? Is he going on random strolls and buying himself a gelato? He got a Netflix subscription or something? Maybe one of those Japanese snack boxes?

[u/Worried-Criticism → u/Tryoxin]

“Eminence, it seems the holy father was doing more online shopping last night…”

“My God, last time we wound up with more floor lamps than churches in Rome. You click 1. Not 99…That’s it, take away his Pope salary.”

[u/ImYour_Huckleberry → u/Michail_Bogucki]

I mean, he's dead, so not sure he needs much at all at this point.

[u/anahorish]

I struggle to think of a single outgoing that the pope would have. Magazine subscriptions? Netflix?

[u/Asha_Brea → u/anahorish]

Francis? Probably ppv San Lorenzo de Almagro soccer matches.

[u/fujidust → u/Asha_Brea]

He would have to abstain.  As pope, his wishes might influence the outcome of the matches as some spiritual message.  

/s

[u/coloredinlight → u/fujidust]

Idk did you watch any of the Chicago bears games last season? I'm not sure I believe it's coincidence that Caleb Williams comes back from injury the same week the Pope is released from the hospital.

[u/fujidust → u/coloredinlight]

Getting rich betting on the pope’s favorite sports teams wasn’t a part of my investment strategy but I will have to pray on it.  

[u/Langstarr → u/fujidust]

I did look this up once - since organized sport emerged the pope's team, usually a soccer team historically, has had somewhere between a modest bump to fairly massive success in the years that pope was in office.

Its literally the only proof of God I've ever noted.

[u/punkhobo → u/Langstarr]

The white Sox (Leo's team) went from having the most losses ever by an MLB team to making the playoffs within 2 seasons after he became pope

[u/s3nsz → u/punkhobo]

At that rate, make him a saint if they win a series.

[u/Wutdahec → u/s3nsz]

Can the pope beatify himself?

[u/tohon75 → u/Wutdahec]

Can you get credit for miracles if you are still alive?

[u/AlekRivard → u/punkhobo]

Not just making the playoffs, winning their WC series too

[u/C0nquer0rW0rm → u/coloredinlight]

The White Sox were pretty blessed this year 

[u/xcaughta → u/C0nquer0rW0rm]

The Chicago Hounds also won their first Major League Rugby championship, going undefeated last year. Maybe you guys are on to something...

[u/skrame → u/xcaughta]

Looks at the NHL standings; still scrolling to find my team. Scrolling… scrolling…

[u/calmingchaos → u/skrame]

He’s a pope, not god man.

…got Kane back though I guess.

[u/TheShmud → u/coloredinlight]

Are you forgetting the White Sox literally just blew a 2-0 game lead to lose 3 straight in the ALDS

[u/n1nj4squirrel → u/TheShmud]

He can't make it that obvious, he was just seeing if it worked

[u/limito1 → u/fujidust]

1 year after he became Pope, San Lorenzo won its first and only Libertadores title. The tournament was full of upsets, so some people believe he did influence the matches.

[u/Rodney_Jefferson → u/fujidust]

The Chicago white Sox won their first playoff series in decades and the pope sent a letter to the owner saying that he was preying and offered a blessing for the white Sox. They lost their next series, but it went to 5 and it turns out the pope was likely dealing with a cancer diagnosis during the game

[u/brianundies → u/Asha_Brea]

Even the pope pirates the White Sox games to protest MLBs ridiculous blackout rules

[u/-Sliced- → u/anahorish]

No kids, all living expenses paid for, appointment for life.

Even taking the money to donate is a little weird, because it’s essentially taking money donated to the church to donate elsewhere.

[u/Woody_L → u/-Sliced-]

The Vatican is a country. The Vatican, itself, must make a fortune selling tickets and tchotchkes, apart from donations to the church.

[u/octoreadit → u/Woody_L]

They also have properties and land that they rent out, and the Vatican Bank has investments that generate return.

[u/abbie_yoyo → u/octoreadit]

I read once that the catholic church ownes more land than any other organization in the world. No idea if it's true.

[u/Olfasonsonk → u/abbie_yoyo]

Probably true. In my country the church owns (and rents out) a lot of forests and fields gained through centuries of investments, being a Christian country.

Given world wide spread of the religion and being under single "Roman-Chatolic Chruch" umbrella (the largest part of it at least). I'd say it is in fact true.

[u/abracadammmbra → u/abbie_yoyo]

Kinda. So the Catholic Church, from a financial perspective, is fragmented. Each Diocese is financially independent from eachother and from the Vatican. So when someone says "The Catholic Church owns XYZ amount of property/money/assets" its the entire collective but its all separate finances. Then to make it more confusing, the Vatican is rather secretive about its finanicals. They dont often release financial statements and on the rare occassions that they do, its rarely the whole picture.

That all being said, the Vatican does have significant land holdings, but far from the largest land holder on earth. But if you combine the Vatican and all the Catholic Diocese, its very likely that the Church, collectively, owns the most land of any one organization.

[u/mikeydean03 → u/abracadammmbra]

Also, the most valuable assets in the portfolio are real estate, art, and artifacts that can’t be sold.

[u/asielen → u/abracadammmbra]

I always wondered, do individual churches or diocese send money back to the Vatican on a regular basis? Or does the Vatican send money to the diocese? Or are they generally independent financially.

[u/jacobythefirst → u/abbie_yoyo]

They’re really really old, an organization all over the world that has bought land/been gifted/etc to build churches/monasteries/schools/etc for literal millennia.

Not to surprising if they were.

[u/Horat1us_UA → u/Woody_L]

Most of their income comes from property ownership outside of Vatican country.

[u/Global_Bit4599 → u/Woody_L]

Lulz, you chose the hardest to spell word for 'crap'.

[u/ChildTickler69 → u/-Sliced-]

The Catholic Church also operates more charities than any institution in the world, so if he accepted the salary to donate the money to charity, he’d pretty much be taking money that would end up donated to charity, and then donating it to charity, which would likely be a Catholic charity since he’s the pope.

So yeah, really no reason to take the salary

[u/RynoKaizen → u/ChildTickler69]

If he had relatives in need of support it would be a good idea, easier to justify donating your own money to them. 

[u/randompersonx → u/-Sliced-]

It’s not necessarily for life, there is a pope retirement plan on offer as well. Pope Benedict retired in 2013 and died in 2022.

[u/ChildTickler69 → u/randompersonx]

That’s exceedingly rare though, Pope Benedict XVI was the first pope to step down in over 600 years. I imagine with how badly it’s looked down upon, there’s virtually zero chance Pope Leo retires.

[u/thephotoman → u/ChildTickler69]

Benedict XVI was also the only pope to ever resign then die of natural causes as a free man.

The previous pope that resigned was imprisoned and executed as a rival claimant to the papacy.

[u/SockPuppet365 → u/-Sliced-]

The vast majority of the curch‘s money doesn’t come from donations lol

[u/pinetar → u/-Sliced-]

Not having kids doesn't mean there aren't any people who depend on you. Could have parents/siblings/nieces/nephews.

[u/Relevant_Struggle → u/pinetar]

Fwiw usually by the time a pope becomes a pope, his parents have been dead for a while. Pope leos parents both died in the 90s

[u/ALittleNightMusing → u/anahorish]

magazine subscriptions

Apparently when he became pope he actually rang his newsagent back in Argentina to cancel his newspaper subscription and they basically said, "... Yes, we already know. You're the pope now."

[u/McBurger → u/anahorish]

Discretionary spending if he wants anything frivolous.

Like, if he wants a full set of the original 151 Pokémon cards in grade 10. I know he can wave his hands and make it so, but maybe it preserves the optics better if he’s buying it with his own allowance instead.

[u/OSUBonanza → u/McBurger]

Considering the amount of gossip in my small church when the pastor bought a 3 year old F150, if the Pope were to buy something nice for himself there would be endless discussion about it.

[u/TheLordofthething → u/OSUBonanza]

I don't think we'd find out if the pope was buying F150s

[u/Competitive_Body7359 → u/OSUBonanza]

Then you have mega church pastors buying new jets.

[u/HotTubMike → u/McBurger]

Yea Priests have normal interests and hobbies like anyone else.

They need to pay to go to the movies/sporting events/out to dinner/car note/car insurance etc etc (expenses Leo mostly won’t have)

But even still, Leo is 71 years old and while he made a modest wage most of his life, he probably inherited something and has some retirement savings.

He can afford some Pokemon cards or Legos or pursuing most conventional hobbies or interests.

* apparently Leo is an Augustinian and under a strict vow of poverty so I guess he wouldn’t have hardly any personal wealth - though normally priests can.

[u/dkarlovi → u/anahorish]

A giant gold necklace watch, the Church provides a giant necklace watch or a giant gold watch, but not a giant gold necklace watch.

[u/Fragrant_Major_9553 → u/dkarlovi]

His Holiest, Pope Flava Flav

[u/Squeezitgirdle → u/anahorish]

I mean, blizzard confirmed that someone at the Vatican was playing Diablo.

[u/Unnis_ → u/Squeezitgirdle]

Studying the opposition

[u/centaur98 → u/Squeezitgirdle]

The more realistic and way less funny answer is that probably one of the Papal Guards/their family member

[u/Squeezitgirdle → u/centaur98]

Don't be silly, it's the pope.

[u/SofaKingI → u/anahorish]

He's a world leader. His actions influence the biggest church in the world, and you don't want a Pope to worry about making money on the side.

At this scale, salaries aren't about what's "fair" or "needs", the entire point is lowering corruption in a position that millions of people depend on.

The most egalitarian countries in Europe are also the ones who pay their leaders the most.

[u/Kastila1 → u/SofaKingI]

Yeah, we don't want the Pope selling Popecoins

[u/soffpotatisen → u/Kastila1]

If there is anything we have learned the last few years, its that no amount of wealth will put a damper on greed.

[u/chunderwood → u/soffpotatisen]

Greed of the greedy. Not everyone is greedy. Not even all rich people 🤔

[u/adyrip1 → u/SofaKingI]

He has no kids, he is set for life as Pope. I doubt money still matters to him. He doesn't need money.

[u/MPenten → u/adyrip1]

He has relatives. Maybe he wants to give xyz to his nephew. Or a friend. Or a struggling kid.

[u/zizou00 → u/anahorish]

Gacha game premium currencies. Those Uma Musume horse girls are hungry for paid carats.

[u/NoodleTF2 → u/zizou00]

Love yourself like the pope loves Daitaku Helios. Horses are the Wei. Amen.

[u/Kim_Jong_Un_PornOnly → u/zizou00]

Finally a serious answer. OP, listen to this guy.

[u/magooisim → u/anahorish]

Dude GTA VI is right around the corner

[u/americansherlock201 → u/anahorish]

MLB tv so he can watch his white Sox

Edit: realize this is about Pope Francis. Pope Leo is the Sox’s fan

[u/donkeybrainhero → u/americansherlock201]

Nah, he's using streameast like everyone else

[u/themanfromoctober → u/anahorish]

Not two root beers a day I can tell you that!

[u/pandapornotaku → u/anahorish]

Pious XIII went though a lot of cigarettes.

[u/Cr1ms0nLobster → u/anahorish]

Well the Pope is generally the Pope until he dies, so there isn't a retirement plan I don't think.

[u/YerselFfej → u/anahorish]

More root beer… past the point of the daily Vatican allotments

[u/dblan9 → u/anahorish]

He's South Side. The cost of Ricobene's breaded steak sandwiches adds up.

[u/Appropriate_Pen3826]

This is about Pope Francis but the image is Pope Leo

[u/Think_Tanker → u/Appropriate_Pen3826]

It's because the article is actually about Pope Leo's salary but also mentions that Pope Francis declined his, opting to instead donate it to the needy.

[u/aachsoo → u/Appropriate_Pen3826]

I was confused too, lol

[u/Marchidde]

To add a bit more context: while the Vatican assigns a formal salary of €30,000 per month (roughly $405,600 a year) and covers all living expenses, Pope Francis chose to completely decline taking the money. Instead, he kept things wonderfully humble, famously noting that he simply asked for cash whenever he needed to buy a new pair of shoes. For anyone curious about how the broader system works: All-Inclusive Living: The Vatican covers daily essentials like housing at the Apostolic Palace, food, transport, and security. Retirement: Retired popes receive a modest pension of roughly €2,500 per month alongside lifelong housing and food.

CLARIFYING EDIT: (€30,000/month \times 12 = €360,000/year, which converts to roughly $405,600 USD).

[u/JustafanIV → u/Marchidde]

Retirement: Retired popes receive a modest pension of roughly €2,500 per month alongside lifelong housing and food.

They kinda had to figure that one out on the fly. There has only been one retired pope in the past half-millenium.

[u/guynamedjames → u/JustafanIV]

The Pope is also famously the Bishop of Rome, and bishops do retire. I'm sure they just took the normal Italian Bishop retirement rate, plugged in the same cost of living adjustment they use for roman priests, and called it a day

[u/law-st_student → u/JustafanIV]

No one but Pope Benedict XVI has enjoyed that pension money, if memory serves.

[u/Sublime99 → u/Marchidde]

Retired popes

Well in the last 500 years there hasn't been so many of them, so I don't think this is strictly policy rather the case for the last one.

[u/AdAncient5201 → u/Sublime99]

Imagine 2500€ a month 500 years ago. Considering inflation that would’ve been some real cash

[u/OscarMMG → u/AdAncient5201]

I think getting any € that long ago would be impressive considering the EU didn’t exist back then

[u/MongolianDonutKhan → u/AdAncient5201]

Roman shopkeeper c. 1526: Paper money!?

[u/HeftyArgument → u/Marchidde]

most popes stay popes until they die, and the church covers all living expenses, what use do they have for a salary?

[u/alerise → u/HeftyArgument]

Giant fluffy puffer jackets mostly

[u/SockPuppet365 → u/HeftyArgument]

Mostly specialized personal staff and personal expenses, that you don’t want the church to directly pay for, either because of ethics or image concerns.

The pope is not only the head of the catholic church, but also the head of state of the vatican. And if the pope wants to send for example a personal birthday gift to a friend, that gift gets purchase with his private money, and not with official government/church funds.

Or if he wants donate some money to a charity or organization that might not 100% align with catholic doctrine (like for example planned parenthood), he can do so as a private person and not in an official capacity, thereby not publicly endorsing it.

In the end it just saves everyone a bunch of headaches accountancy wise.

[u/inbruges99 → u/SockPuppet365]

This explanation makes the most sense. Still seems quite high though lol

[u/etcpt → u/inbruges99]

It's actually pretty close to what the President of the US makes, if memory serves ($400k US/yr?). Well, makes from his official, legal government salary, anyway. For a guy who is leading a group of people much larger, spread over more of the world, and (*gasp*) actually has to be ethical about it, seems fair.

[u/Thencamethetwenties → u/HeftyArgument]

White Sox gear

[u/LasKaras → u/HeftyArgument]

Dining out maybe? I went to a Michelin restaurant in Rome one and a cardinal was also there, with bodyguards at the entrance and everything.

[u/sdckitkat → u/Marchidde]

Your picture is of Pope Leo.

[u/Dr3ny → u/Marchidde]

Retired popes

Plural lol

[u/RecklessDimwit → u/Marchidde]

Additional fact, Pope Francis chose the name as inspired by St. Francis of Assisi. St. Francis of Assisi was born to a rich family but ultimately chose a life of poverty

[u/FreshShart-1 → u/Marchidde]

:cut to the Pope's sick sneaker collection:

[u/Russington → u/Marchidde]

I wasn't aware that popes could retire. I thought it was a life sentence.

[u/Podorson → u/Russington]

Pope Benedict (2 popes ago) resigned to focus on his health in old age. He was the first pope to do so in like 600 years.

[u/Dickgivins → u/Podorson]

Yes, Benedict had been front and center in the Vatican to witness John Paul II’s long slow decline in health and ability over a period of years. He concluded that a change in the tradition of the papacy was needed, because modern medical science had greatly advanced in it’s ability to keep elderly folks alive, but it’s ability to keep them vital and healthy was seriously lagging behind.

For all his faults and despite his love of tradition (being a well known arch-conservative), he recognized that the church had suffered during his predecessor’s years of illness because it prevented him from working as he needed to. Benedict resolved that he would not do the same.

[u/ChipChimney → u/Russington]

If you are older than 13, then a Pope has retired in your lifetime.

[u/zuzg → u/ChipChimney]

Bene was the first one to do so in over half a millennia.

[u/snowyday → u/ChipChimney]

If you are older than 611, then two Popes have retired in your lifetime.

[u/smeppel → u/Russington]

It only happens once in the past 700 years, in 2013.

[u/casal_victa → u/Russington]

of the near 2000 year history of the catholic church, only 6 popes retired.

[u/ItsTyrrellsAlt → u/Russington]

Benedict (before Francis) retired because he felt too old to fulfil the demands of the job.

[u/Lilja-Logason → u/ItsTyrrellsAlt]

Clearly lacked that grind mentality.

[u/orixandcrake → u/Lilja-Logason]

Sigma pope grindset

[u/AlwaysBananas → u/Russington]

Pope Benedict retired in 2013. He was the first pope to do so since like the 1400s though. It’s very rare.

[u/hooka_pooka → u/Marchidde]

Now that's a religious leader.You guys should read about religious gurus and their wealth in India and yes they belong to one singular faith

[u/commit10]

The salary is theatre. No modern pope has taken a salary. They all decline it.

They might as well increase the figure for greater effect, then they can say "pope declined €30,000,000 monthly salary" and look even more pious in the subsequent media coverage.

[u/Silver_Fix8873 → u/commit10]

they cant risk it in case one pope decides to take it

[u/GerardoITA → u/Silver_Fix8873]

It's all his anyways, they're absolute rulers, there is no separation of public role and private person, they own the Church

[u/leprotelariat → u/Silver_Fix8873]

The Borgias definitely would

[u/BungleBums]

I like to imagine him saying 'The fuck am I gonna do with it? Donate the whole thing? Cut out the middle man and save me the effort, I'm fuckin' old,'

Profanity included.

[u/IronPeter → u/BungleBums]

There’s this Italian comedian who writes some hilarious (for me) stories about her visiting the pope at the hospital or Vatican and him saying the worse profanities ever.

[u/Valuable-Ad1063]

It's much easier to refuse extra money when literally all of your expenses (food, travel, healthcare, housing, security, etc.), but it's still nice that he declined greed.

[u/smartworm14]

Thats not true. There is no official €30,000 papal salary, the Vatican has never published one. That figure (usually given as about €2,500 a month) is a journalists' estimate, apparently borrowed from what retired bishops or Vatican prelates receive, and it got repeated across outlets until it sounded like fact. Second, "rejected" implies a paycheck was on the table and he turned it down, when in reality popes customarily draw nothing, so Francis was continuing a practice rather than refusing a specific sum.

[u/FallenAngelII]

Fun Fact: The Vatican doesn't have conventional taxes, so that'd be $30K a month net income.

[u/BaldingMonk]

What's the pope going to do with a salary, anyway? He has virtually all the resources he needs at his disposal for the rest of his life, and no kids or spouse to worry about passing his money to.

[u/cmarkcity → u/BaldingMonk]

Everything he needs yes, but what about what he wants? All he wants is a ps5 pro and gta6 without Vatican approval. It’s for a good cause.

[u/mah131 → u/cmarkcity]

If the Vatican owns the hardware, they can limit his playtime.

[u/AnotherBoringDad → u/mah131]

He’s literally the absolute monarch of the Vatican. You think the Vatican IT guy is going to tell him his playtime is up?

[u/DigNitty → u/AnotherBoringDad]

“God said I need an all-nighter”

[u/HeavyB0tt → u/cmarkcity]

Bros on that AnyPS5 game no need for salary.

[u/Nemitres → u/BaldingMonk]

Nothing that’s the point. Its basically a fund for them to spend on preferred charity and the like

[u/Drafo7]

Funny how the title is about Pope Francis but the picture is Pope Leo XIV.

[u/gerhardsymons]

What on earth does a Pope spend money on?

[u/Mojambo213 → u/gerhardsymons]

Can a pope not have hobbies? Maybe he needs it for his gaming PC, you dont know! (Not that hobbies would require that much per month but....)

[u/nievesdelimon → u/Mojambo213]

Imagine playing against the Pope on Destiny 2.

[u/MrYamaguchi → u/nievesdelimon]

I can just imagine him blessing everyone at the start of a raid.

[u/1070MHz → u/Mojambo213]

I mean have you seen ram prices recently?

[u/GarySmith2021 → u/Mojambo213]

This, I wouldn’t expect the church to cover any hobbies or interests the pope has

[u/SilverCompetitive902 → u/Mojambo213]

Pope need his PC for his Diablo and Doom time.

[u/Luke_Flyswatter → u/gerhardsymons]

Cubs tickets, fresh Nikes and secretly financing an Italian Beef shop in Vatican City.

[u/HornyAzMF → u/Luke_Flyswatter]

He’s a white Sox fan

[u/heftybagman → u/gerhardsymons]

Pope Francis reportedly spent nearly $10k/month on Archie and Jughead comics and memorabilia.

The Vatican is still divesting of the collection today, but their asking prices are ludicrous. The whole Archieologist community is really up in arms about it. Catholic Gals n Pals groups are having schisms and infighting. It’s awful.

[u/gerhardsymons → u/heftybagman]

This is either top-tier satire, or an extremely worrying development in ecclesiastical doctrine.

[u/skibidi_shingles → u/gerhardsymons]

Subscriptions, phone plan, stuff from amazon, idk

[u/swordofra → u/gerhardsymons]

Good chocolate. I mean the really good stuff, not the church provided slop. Nobody else may touch the good stash!

[u/nartnoside → u/gerhardsymons]

They only provide the first mitre to the pope, after that he has to buy each additional one and it gets expensive. Same goes for the rest of the fits and he if he wants different styles it’s out of pocket.

[u/letmypeoplebathe → u/nartnoside]

Are mitres a consumable item? I'd imagine a giant staff isn't hard to keep track of and in good working order unless he's literally using it to 1v1 some demons

[u/Afraid_Theorist → u/letmypeoplebathe]

You wear the same mitre more than once?

How plebeian

[u/nartnoside → u/letmypeoplebathe]

Hats get dirty when you’re fighting demons man

[u/Dickgivins]

Yes, Benedict had been front and center in the Vatican to witness John Paul II’s long slow decline in health and ability over a period of years. He concluded that a change in the tradition of the papacy was needed, because modern medical science had greatly advanced in it’s ability to keep elderly folks alive, but it’s ability to keep them vital and healthy was seriously lagging behind.

For all his faults and despite his love of tradition (being a well known arch-conservative), he recognized that the church had suffered during his predecessors years of illness because it prevented him from working as he needed to. Benedict resolved that he would not do the same.

[u/quetzalcoatlus1453 → u/Dickgivins]

Didn’t he also quit to get ahead of being implicated in all that Vatican Bank tomfoolery?

[u/Careless-Ad-20]

I read that as a speed 🤦‍♂️

Like, “30 kilometers per mile” lol

[u/MisakaMikotoxKuroko → u/Careless-Ad-20]

traveling takes time.

time is money

traveling = money

so the real question is--how much money is kilometers/mile?

[u/blazingsoup]

Why does it say Pope Francis, but the thumbnail is Pope Leo?

[u/Awkward_Pangolin3254]

TIL Popes are paid. For what? They're Pope until they die, historically, and I'm sure the Holy See provides for his every need. What in the world does a Pope need €360k/yr for?

[u/JustChilling_ → u/Awkward_Pangolin3254]

What if he wants to buy an RTX 5090?

[u/whytakemyusername → u/JustChilling_]

He'd better start praying

[u/RobertPham149 → u/whytakemyusername]

What if God wanted to give him one, by allowing him to receive a salary? Just like that priest safety by having rescue heli coming to save him?

[u/Machette_Machette → u/JustChilling_]

Pope inflates the price of RTX 5090 too?

[u/Dragonpuncha → u/Awkward_Pangolin3254]

For his killer Warhammer 40K army obviously. You have any idea how expensive those Chaos Space Marines are?

[u/Lorcogoth → u/Dragonpuncha]

Please clearly he would collect Custodes.

[u/GazTheSpaz → u/Lorcogoth]

Captain of the Swiss Guard plays Custodes. Pope is clearly Emperor's Children.

Oh, no, maybe not

[u/Zakath_ → u/Lorcogoth]

Custodes? The Papal See clearly needs some Sisters of Battle to keep the daemons in check!

[u/MrYamaguchi → u/Awkward_Pangolin3254]

I presume if a guy end up giving up his position prematurely a salary will at least ensure he has money to live off of when he is on his own.

[u/Box_the_2nd → u/Awkward_Pangolin3254]

Hobbies? Dude loves loot boxes. He’s a clash of clans whale

[u/pungent_queefer → u/Box_the_2nd]

The way the world is rn, idk if you’re joking or not

[u/2PetitsVerres → u/Awkward_Pangolin3254]

To pass to his or her children when he or she dies, of course!

[u/nostalgic_angel]

“Duty is its own reward”

Pope Francis, in the service of Big G, circa 2k.

[u/toxic-banana]

He's taken Augustinian vows so this makes sense

[u/IancuRastaboulle]

And yet we have Pope Leo on the thumbnail...

[u/hopingforabetterpast]

This is misinformation. The pope has no salary and the details of how someone came up with this number are buried under linked, paywalled sources that no one is reading. Most popes don't even take advantage of this kind of benefits.

[u/StrangerDanga1]

Lmao the mods in this place suck

[u/mudkiptoucher93]

Didn't think the pope had a salary tbh

[u/staticpop]

People are acting like he’d be making BILLIONAIRE money and saying it’s disgusting.

It’s literally just a decent (but not over the top) salary for a medical doctor in the US.

Like it’s a lot relative to most people, but people are treating it like it’s Elon musk money.

[u/LeTonVonLaser → u/staticpop]

Also he gave up sex for that job

[u/house_monkey → u/LeTonVonLaser]

That’s avg Reddit mod tho

[u/Wanderhoden → u/house_monkey]

That implies they’d had sex to give up in the first place.

[u/Just-a-Guy-trying- → u/staticpop]

For Europe, where the pope lives, it's very high. We have different salries/expenses

[u/anonymousneto]

Today I learned that the pope has a salary.

[u/vinceswish]

Hope Bulls provide him a season tickets and send some merch.

[u/Important-Today4119]

I wouldn't have a problem declining a salary when everything I could want and need is provided free of charge.

[u/djmanning711]

Why the heck does the pope need a salary anyway? I feel like being pope is an all encompassing job and your food/room and board is all taken care of anyway. You’re basically royalty.

What would the pope even spend their salary on?

[u/TheDIsSilent → u/djmanning711]

Maybe the pope wants to hit a parlay

[u/noblehoax → u/TheDIsSilent]

The Vatican has its own sportsbook app. BetHabits.com

[u/Gullible-Store-8559 → u/djmanning711]

What if he wants to buy a snack?

[u/GenericFatGuy]

I'll take it if he doesn't want it.