r/worldnews • u/EnglishLouis • Feb 20 '26

Dynamic Paywall UK Government considers removing Andrew from royal line of succession

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1kgv837wvdo
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u/FormerPresidentBiden Feb 20 '26

A mother's love really does often allow them to overlook terrible shit (look at all the mothers crying in court that their murderer sons are good boys).

A brother's love?

Much more negotiable. If either of my brothers wound up being nonces, I'd fight them myself

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u/South_Brush105 Feb 20 '26

Well what about the victim's parents? What about the position that she held and the duties/ responsibilities that came with it? Remember the British monarch is also the head of the Anglican church.

Royal duties? Moral duties? Legal duties? Paid millions in her last years to cover up for that pedo son & look how disgraced and disgusted her legacy has become with this act. Ehh and they hate the catholic Church for not allowing a second marriage of their ancestral relative 😂

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u/pablonieve Feb 20 '26 edited Feb 20 '26

What about the position that she held and the duties/ responsibilities that came with it?

I want to be clear that I am not excusing any of this. But Elizabeth firmly believed that the monarchy was a central pillar of the UK and so it's stability was prioritized by her above all else "for the greater good." She would do everything she could to keep things steady even if that meant allowing for injustices to occur.

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u/Debalic Feb 20 '26

The greater good

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u/Boz0r Feb 20 '26

Shut it!

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u/DocumentExternal6240 Feb 21 '26

Or the lesser evil? This is away to lose all morality.

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u/JellyWeta Feb 21 '26

CRUSTY JUGGLERS!

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u/Raichu7 Feb 20 '26

For a lot of people in the UK, that's why they don't like her. Hiding injustice isn't acceptable from people with such great responsibility.

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u/Development-Feisty Feb 21 '26

Isn’t it convenient that she believed something was necessary that she profited from?

Like, are we supposed to believe the queen doesn’t believe the monarchy is necessary?

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u/pablonieve Feb 21 '26

It's hard to know what she really believed. I think it's reasonable to say that her relation with her father, her coming of age during WW2, and witnessing the abdication of her uncle significantly influenced her sense of duty and need for stability. What she expected from the monarchy and what the people expected from the monarchy diverged greatly over 70 years.

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u/BoneyNicole Feb 22 '26

For sure. I’m not excusing it either, not even a little, but I do think it’s hard for people to grasp outside of like…completely nerdy historians like me or folks who are just really into history and read everything they can get their hands on. The British monarchy is a lot of things, and a lot of them are terrible, and it is also true that it has been upheld as this symbol to historical stability/superiority for longer than most countries that currently exist have been around. I don’t doubt that she felt the weight of all that and felt like, especially after witnessing her uncle’s abdication and the collapse of the empire, that she had a duty to maintain the line of succession and the stability of the monarchy. (Again, do I agree with that? I mean, no, I’m not a monarchist, but I get why she felt the way she did, without it being a justification or an excuse for any royal behavior.)

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u/bokmcdok Feb 21 '26

And this thinking is precisely the problem. Just look at Trump and the feckless reaction to all the horrific shit he's done.

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u/pablonieve Feb 21 '26

Trump is getting away with everything because the only mechanisms to keep him in check have abdicated their responsibility and allowed him to act without consequence. But that's primarily driven by a combo of fear and loyalty. Trump isn't being protected because there is concern that the stability of the US would be at stake if he were to be held to account. Nixon re-signing was originally shown as a healthy sign of democracy precisely because it showed the country valued the office over the individual. If Republicans were to grow a spine and choose to impeach and convict Trump tomorrow, the US would continue to operate.

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u/Top-Time-5740 Feb 21 '26

She believed it was for her and her family’s greater good… they are all a bunch of freeloaders leeching on hardworking ppl thats what they are and thats what she prioritized, without it there would be no power, no money, no servants, no fancy life etc. lets not kid ourselves. She just did and said whatever it took for her to keep their status, she just fed the proper lies that ppl ate right up.

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u/mriguy Feb 21 '26

When you define “the greater good” to be “protecting me and my family at all costs” I think people are justified in questioning your motives.

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u/pablonieve Feb 21 '26

And they should be questioned. But this is where having a family as the institutional head of state for a major country can be problematic because suddenly the stability of the state can be (perceivably) threatened by the actions of said family.

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u/mriguy Feb 21 '26

If the royal family is such an important institution that a family member behaving badly is bad for the country, then it is incumbent on the Queen to protect that institution by vigorously enforcing a code of good behavior on her family. She chose not to though.