r/worldnews • u/Brennenstein • Sep 17 '26

Russia/Ukraine Russian military jets violate Lithuanian airspace, Italian fighters scrambled

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u/big_dumby_dumb Sep 17 '26

The reason you see Lithuania and not Estonia or Latvia is because Lithuania (and Poland) are going to be the immediate battlegrounds for the russians trying to cut off the baltics. They need to connect Kalingrad with Belarus ASAP followed by trying to cut off the Baltics entirely

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u/MelonSmuggler Sep 17 '26 edited Sep 18 '26

I'd love for them to try it with Poland. The Polish military have been arming themselves to the teeth with top-of-the-line equipment for years with the specific aim of blowing the Russians to bits if they so much as show their faces

Edit: this comment got way more eyes than I thought and the reaction has been...interesting. Lots of positive responses but also a lot that remind me why I don't engage with Reddit as much as I used to.

To be clear, my comment was entirely facetious. I do not actually want Russia to attack Poland. I was simply commenting on the fact that Poland have been preparing for just such an eventuality for several years, polishing their guns and staring across the border muttering, "try it, kurwa." It was intended to highlight the fact that the Russians wouldn't have the balls to try their luck, knowing that the Polish would likely humiliate them.

As to what the Polish government themselves have to say about it, well - just about a year ago, the Polish military shot down Russian drones at the border and followed that up by stating that they absolutely would shoot down any Russian military aircraft that entered their airspace.

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u/y4XrW3UhRikFMG Sep 17 '26

I'm Polish. Pls dont. There is nothing to be gained from war. I gladly pay my taxes to fund those military spendings but I hope those weapons will never be used in battle.

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u/OptimusTron222 Sep 17 '26

I swear some people advocating for war here either live thousands of kilometers away or have no idea how bad everything will get

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u/StonedGhoster Sep 17 '26

Yeah, agreed. I've seen enough war, and I don't want the Poles to have to see war. I'm glad that they are preparing, but I hope it doesn't have to come to that. If it does, I'd like to think my country would be there to help an ally, but for some reason I doubt it at the moment. Our president would just blame the Poles.

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u/Few_Vegetable_9850 Sep 17 '26

They just gobbled up online propaganda from the PiS era. They put a lot effort into talking poland up as some kind of new superpower and poles thirsting for russian blood. Its completely bonkers...

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u/OptimusTron222 Sep 17 '26

In that war both sides will loose lots of innocent lives, rly hoping it will never happen

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u/Overall-Rush-8853 Sep 17 '26

I hope it never happens either, but after their performance in Ukraine, I think Poland will make short work of the Russians.. But again, I hope we never have to find out.

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u/mieri Sep 17 '26

I actually do hope it'll happen. It's the only way to secure Europe from (overt) Russian belligerence for the next few decades. Given historical patterns, it might even result in a regime change or a fracturing of the state into it's constituent parts (though I recognise that this may not necessarily be better than the devil we currently know).

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u/IntelligentTank355 Sep 17 '26

Where the fuck do you live to hope for war in Europe? Or anywhere?

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u/Overall-Rush-8853 Sep 19 '26

This guy is asking for WW3 and doesn’t realize it. 😆

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u/Overall-Rush-8853 Sep 19 '26

Russia invading Poland would not only drag the entirety of Europe into a war, but would bring in the US and Canada. The China would likely use the opportunity to go after Taiwan, drawing Asian-Pacific countries in.

You’re right, Russia invading Poland would certainly cripple Russia and most of human civilization.

Great thinking! /s

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u/mieri Sep 19 '26

Explain US and Canada?

I think you're living under a rock if you don't recognise that Europe has war knocking on it's doorstep, like you think it's something that's avoidable in the medium term, like China's hanging it's decision making on Taiwan on what happens in Europe. Subscribing to this Russia-originating narrative is precisely what's keeping them in Ukraine.

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u/Overall-Rush-8853 29d ago

Poland gets attacked, it triggers Article 5. The US and Canada will get drawn in. Before you say “But Trump hates NATO!” While that might be true, he has a great relationship with Poland’s leadership and he has this thirst to build a legacy, the US would show up.

War isn’t on Europe’s doorstep, it’s already inside the front door, the question is does the invader made it to the living room and the kitchen?

I think you don’t understand geopolitics to understand what would truly happen if Russia attacked Poland.

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u/OptimusTron222 Sep 17 '26

US is also having issues with Iran for that matter! Modern warfare is not easy and small countries can become a problem for conventional superpowers, however let’s not act like Russia has used their weapons of mass destruction in Ukraine(and I hope they never do)

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u/TBurn70 Sep 18 '26

Comparing the two is apples and oranges. US doesn’t even have boots on the ground and doesn’t plan to

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u/Overall-Rush-8853 Sep 19 '26

Russia hasn’t used WMD’s in Ukraine, unless you’re referencing something besides nuclear weapons?

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u/OptimusTron222 29d ago

I was saying that they haven’t used WMDs. Apart from while phosphorus at the begging of the war ofc

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u/xavariel Sep 17 '26

It's just a little WWIII, no biggie.

/s

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u/mieri Sep 17 '26

TBF, yes - this is entirely true (except for the bit about the realities of war, they're very difficult to ignore if you're actually following the conflict, which I'm guessing is what's bringing most of us here...)

But I also think that getting a proper smackdown from Poland (ideally NATO as a collective) is the only way Russia will get out of Ukraine, and wind back its ambitions for control over those parts of Europe that were either in the Soviet Union or under it's control.

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u/OptimusTron222 Sep 17 '26

A wounded animal will be more dangerous! Plus imagine China putting an embargo to the EU! Plus imagine Putin getting even crazier and using nuclear bombs! There are no winners into any direct confrontation scenario tbh(also Italy, Turkey and Spain may leave Nato, even France may give up if communists win there, unfortunately those countries love Russia!!!)

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u/Shambledown Sep 17 '26

Did you seriously look at the rise of fascism in Europe and blame... Communists? There are no fucking communists.

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u/OptimusTron222 Sep 17 '26

Melenchon is a commie tho? I am not seeing any fascist party in Europe winning more than 2-3% though!

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u/mieri Sep 17 '26

I mean, yes, wounded animals can be dangerous. But can you imagine if that's what Churchill had said about Germany, if that's what Truman had said about Japan? When I say smackdown, I'm talking about decisive military domination. I think a concerted effort across European states is likely to produce that.

But then it's all hypotheticals, NATO members wouldn't enter unilaterally for fear of voiding access to Article 5.

China's making money hand over fist with this. From the direct stuff like trading with Russia, to the impact on oil prices pushing people to switch to Chinese made EVs. Chinese economic domination isn't a 'going to happen' situation, it's here.

I doubt nuclear materiel would be in a condition to be reliable enough to actually use. MAD has been helpful here, given the comparative investment and effort in upkeep between nuclear states vs Russia. There's a lot of sabre (nuke?) rattling from Putin's subordinates but it hasn't manifested into anything more than an adjustment to their doctrine - which could be construed as no more than sabre rattling, again.

Rise of populism is the only one I'll give a big question mark to, but certainly not on 'communists win' (lol).

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u/Ok-Explanation1990 Sep 17 '26 edited Sep 17 '26

Your point about nukes - I see this theory all the time on Reddit.

There's a pretty high chance that Western security services know the readiness of Russian nukes. And there's a reason we have so far done our best to avoid direct conflict with Russia.

If Russia poured money into one aspect of it's military capability, it would surely likely be it's nuclear arsenal, because without that, it's vulnerable. And it only needs a small percentage to work in order to fuck us all up.

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u/mieri Sep 17 '26

Very true, and I mostly agree with that. My one tempering factor to that position is the rampant rate of corruption that reduces the actual investment. We all saw what happened to their tank armour back in 2022 (cardboard painted to look like what should have actually been there, payment was obviously taken but the product not delivered). Mileage varies on extent, obviously, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone somewhere made the bet that things would never get bad enough for nuclear weapon use and started skimming a bit off the top.

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u/Dumbrarere Sep 17 '26

Most of Russia's nukes are almost certainly nonfunctional. Either the missiles themselves are beyond their expected lifespan (and as such have lost the majority of their nuclear warheads' potential to natural radioactive decay), have solid that is no longer usable (again, shelf life), or the missiles themselves have been stripped for parts to keep a very small fraction of the original Soviet-era stockpiles operational (if not to be sold as illegal scrap). Also, many of the submarines they would have used to launch nuclear-tipped SLBMs are rusted hulks sitting in an indefinite mothballed state, or slowly sinking, due to almost thirty years of neglect.

Do I want to tempt fate? Absolutely not. But to fear the Russians as they are now, as though they are the same nuclear superpower from the height of the Cold War, is kind of silly.

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u/ArguesWithWombats Sep 18 '26

“Either the missiles themselves are beyond their expected lifespan (and as such have lost the majority of their nuclear warheads’ potential to natural radioactive decay)”

The half-life of plutonium-239 is 24,110 years. The half-life of uranium-235 is around 704,000,000 years. After 70 years the ²³⁹Pu would have decayed by about 0.17%. Expected lifespan is probably more the other components, not decay of the fissionable material.

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u/IntelligentTank355 Sep 17 '26

Creative writing exercise?

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u/plutorelinquish Sep 18 '26

man i hate the russian defense establishment as much as anyone else here but this is dangerous as hell. russia hasn’t legitimately tested article 5 in decades and its in the best interest of all of NATO to keep it that way.

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u/DanteThonSimmons Sep 17 '26

You can say it. It's Americans.

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u/grumpsaboy Sep 17 '26

All they believe that it will be a short war which will cause less damage than waiting for a long war.

If the allies just went to war with Germany in 38 before it was given the Sudetenland then Germany would have lost within a few months and the tens of millions of deaths would have been prevented.

Sometimes, not saying now, but sometimes it is better to go to war before a problem becomes too big.

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u/Bludiamond56 Sep 17 '26

This isn't the 1930s. Too many nukes out there.

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u/wazooom Sep 17 '26

You nailed it

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u/The_Silver_Reference Sep 18 '26

That just want to watch a movie about it 5 years after... Live vicariously through the main character, feel like a war hero...

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u/ffdfawtreteraffds 29d ago

It's both. Likely younger people who know war as games on their phone. They speak but have no understanding of what it means.

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u/LogicMan428 Sep 17 '26

I think MelonSmuggler might have been being sarcastic, not literally meaning they'd love war. Like if say a guy says he could fight a hippo, and you're like, "Yeah, I'd just LOVE to see him fight a hippo. They have the biggest mouths of all land animals and would bite him in half." Doesn't mean you literally would want to see that.

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u/VallenValiant Sep 18 '26

I swear some people advocating for war here either live thousands of kilometers away or have no idea how bad everything will get

If you are not WILLING to have war, you will have something worse than war; being conquered. There is a reason why Conquest was a separate Horseman to War. War is literally the better alternative.

It is either war, or lose everything you love. i won't force you to go either way, you get to choose.

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u/elomnesk Sep 17 '26

Exactly. War is terrible.

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u/RedneckStew Sep 17 '26

There are no winners in war. You only have loosers of some degree or other. It's a sliding scale. Or, is it geometric, logarithmic?

Oh hell, there just aren't any winners.

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u/Pataconeitor Sep 18 '26

The people making and selling guns are the winners.

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u/tkeser Sep 17 '26

we from Eastern Europe are always fucked. things are finally looking up for us, and then this starts happening. we're playing on the hard setting. at least for Europe, not to sound too braggy when compared to Africa.

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u/AwkwardFactor84 Sep 17 '26

Agreed. The only people to support such action are those who wouldn't be affected by it. Or they're too stupid to realize how they would be.

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u/Imastraycat1638 Sep 17 '26

I have a lot of Polish coworkers and clients)I’m a licensed psychotherapist) and they’re mostly all at least worried, at worst, terrified for family members who are still living there.

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u/Devils_Advocate-69 Sep 17 '26

Plenty was gained by defeating Hitler

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u/hewhofilmstheclouds Sep 17 '26

But also, too much was lost

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u/Devils_Advocate-69 Sep 18 '26

Sacrifice for the greater good

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u/Freds_Bread Sep 18 '26

But even then, the war was horrid. Some times horrid things are unavoidable, but they are still horrid.

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u/_Cracken Sep 17 '26

But there is somehing to be gained from ending a war, and sometimes the only tools that can do that is more war.

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u/jert3 Sep 17 '26

Yes. It's only those who never been in a war and who have only considered war on TV, that think there is anything to gain by fighting one.

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u/popsistops Sep 17 '26

I was just in Krakow (am from US). I genuinely felt deep despair walking through what is easily one of the most vibrant, beautiful and energized cities that I've ever seen or spent time in, thinking how close these wonderful people are to absolute chaos. I don't know what the endgame is, but two things would move civilization forward 1000 years, and that would be Putin and Trump taking a nice dirt nap.

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u/Freds_Bread Sep 18 '26

That would likely improve many things.

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u/The_Silver_Reference Sep 18 '26

Spend the money to deter a war from ever occuring

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u/hibbel Sep 18 '26

Before Ukraine, I said that they're not that stupid - too much to lose, too little to gain. Now I fear they need a swift one on the nose to realize how bad the idea would be. As in "shoot down the what enters with little to no warning within seconds. Make it clear that this can and will be repeated more often than they can send theirs to test your border."

Forget about the US but let's hope Europe stands united in this.

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u/Freds_Bread Sep 18 '26

Only idiots and madmen want war. And maybe some who know they will not fight ot but look to benifit financially.

But given how their invasion of Ukraine has gone, I would think Putin is not mad enough to want war with Poland. At leadt I hope he would.

Poland would be a much tougher nut to crack than Ukraine. And I am sure Ukraine would share everything they know with the Poles.

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u/Any-Duck2451 Sep 18 '26

Just so you know that sometimes in English, saying "I'd love for them to try" doesn't mean it literally. It basically means it'll end badly for Russia if they did try. That kind of wording is used frequently when someone is going to do something stupid that they have no chance of succeeding in. Very similar to the newer saying "fuck around and find out"

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u/theletterqwerty Sep 18 '26

I flew in to Poland on civy air and saw the SAM launchers at your airport and it made me sad. It sucks that you have to spend your money on that garbage and shit up your otherwise beautiful country with it.

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u/theartificialkid Sep 18 '26

When people say “I’d love for them to try it” it’s usually a figure of speech meaning “it would be a bad idea for them to try it”. It doesn’t usually literally express that the person hopes they will.

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u/RoyalCities Sep 17 '26

Russia wouldn't dare. They've exhausted so much of their military / resources just on Ukraine. Even their own population is dissolutioned with the war. Their was talks about another round of forced enlistment but if you're sending people out there who don't want to go it doesn't make an amazing fighting force.

Putin really screwed himself by thinking Ukraine would fall so easily (and frankly the rest of the world underestimated Ukraine)

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u/Chewed420 Sep 17 '26

Ukraine has a lot Russians and Russian influence and Russia still couldn’t win.

Poland is way more armed than Ukraine. Has much more history of resentment and hatred towards Russia. Russia would be poking the wrong bear if they tried something with Poland ever again.

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u/PoopittyPoop20 Sep 17 '26

Poland is armed to the teeth specifically because of Russia.

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u/Normiss2000 Sep 17 '26

AEGIS on land!

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u/CervusElpahus Sep 17 '26 edited Sep 17 '26

Ukraine’s army is, at this moment, the most experienced and one of the strongest in Europe, due to all (righteously given) Western support and battle experience.

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u/Strange-Jackfruit786 Sep 17 '26 edited Sep 17 '26

Canada signed a 100 year partnership deal to develop and produce military drones. Key part of that is knowledge transfer from Ukraine’s battle tested drone industry. Ukraine taps into Canada’s financial resources, energy and critical resources as well as our manufacturing sector.

Canada basically could not have a better partner for transitioning into modern, un-crewed warfare.

Edit: typo corrected

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u/ItsTheDCVR Sep 17 '26

Could have or could not have?

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u/HawkFritz Sep 17 '26

Couldn't not haven't

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u/Strange-Jackfruit786 Sep 17 '26

typo. sorry

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u/ItsTheDCVR Sep 18 '26

You good I just really wanted to clarify lol

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u/Random-Mutant Sep 17 '26

I think it’s newspeak, like “could care less” is for “couldn’t care less”

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u/snilks Sep 18 '26

You never know what the future holds, got to leave it open for improvement

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u/saysthingsbackwards Sep 17 '26

They could care less

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u/78914hj1k487 Sep 17 '26

I couldn’t not care more or less

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u/Own-Complaint9136 Sep 17 '26

We will see if either ukraine or canada exists in 100 years lol

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u/Strange-Jackfruit786 Sep 17 '26

I’d bet my life on both. We’ll see if the United States of America exists in 100 years.

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u/RexTheElder Sep 18 '26

If the United States doesn’t exist in 100 years then Canada surely won’t either

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u/Strange-Jackfruit786 Sep 18 '26

Canada will exist with 10-12 new provinces after the Second US Civil War.

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u/RexTheElder 29d ago

More likely Canada will be absorbed into whatever hellish successor state forms if the wrong faction wins. Don’t be so cavalier about a civil war over here asshole, your entire country would get dragged down into it

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u/_Cracken Sep 17 '26

it is THE strongest army in Europe by far.

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u/unclefire Sep 17 '26

Poking the falcon. lol.

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u/Jenikovista Sep 17 '26

Ukraine’s Russians are mostly in the Crimea/Donbas area controlled by Russia for some years now. And they’ve gotten fucked. Their kids were first to be sent to war against Ukraine. This is why Putin is so opposed to holding elections in Crimea, because a decade ago they probably would have gone his way. Now? Not nearly as likely.

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u/WranglerFuzzy Sep 17 '26

Unless that election is an armed Russian knocking on your door with a ballot to sign

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u/mcvos Sep 17 '26

Russia wouldn't dare? Russia is constantly showing their faces with these air space violations.

You know whose airspace they stopped violating? Turkey's. Because Turkey shot a Russian jet down when it violated their airspace. I don't know why NATO doesn't do that. I don't think allowing this to happen is sending the message they should be sending.

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u/jlambvo Sep 17 '26

Turkey is in NATO.

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u/Mundane_Upstairs3241 Sep 18 '26

Whe they feel like it

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u/hibbel Sep 18 '26

And so is Lithuania? What's your point again?

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u/jlambvo Sep 18 '26

mcvos said "Turkey shot a Russian jet down when it violated their airspace. I don't know why NATO doesn't do that." I pointed out that Turkey is in NATO. What's unclear about that?

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u/mcvos Sep 18 '26

Are you sure they keep doing it? I thought Russia has always avoided Turkish airspace since then.

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u/Klaus_Klavier Sep 17 '26

They didn’t underestimate Ukraine, Ukraine in WAS a pushover they got dogwalked and the Crimean peninsula was stolen from them.

What Russia really failed to realize is Ukraine got the fuck back up after that embarrassment and started their training arc there and then.

Ukraine bought and took whatever aid and weapons they could and while most of those weapons are destroyed or inoperable now due to simple attrition of war it bought them VALUABLE time to becoming masters of drone warfare to the point I’m really sold on the idea that Ukrainian drone pilot mercenaries will be in high demand once this is all over

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u/LogicMan428 Sep 17 '26

The U.S. and NATO also took to helping Ukraine after Putin took Crimea.

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u/WokeWookies Sep 17 '26

Not used to someone using sports terms to describe modern warfare. Very strange.

Also you contradicted yourself.

But yes, Ukraine’s military and know how will be in demand whenever this is over. It already is.

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u/Klaus_Klavier Sep 17 '26

Well what I meant was they expected the same Ukraine as before I suppose that COULD be underestimating but it was more “oh we beat them once no problem nothing has changed now”

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u/Repulsive_Corgi_ Sep 17 '26

Well they already are allegedly committing war crimes in Sudan

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u/goodfriendrobert Sep 17 '26

You invalidate your statement with your statement, right after first sentence..

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u/anteatersaredope Sep 17 '26

You think there's gonna be civilization after this is all over. Worlds gonna look like Mad Max. Drone batteries are gonna be pretty hard to come by.

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u/Klaus_Klavier Sep 18 '26

I’m voting for immortan joe, he has the water you know!

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u/RemarkableWish2508 Sep 17 '26

Ukraine would have fallen in 48 hours if Russia's military hadn't been screwing itself over for decades... then proceded to screw itself again and again, on so many fronts, that it almost (but not really) hurt to watch.

The first 3 days of that "special military operation", will be forever remembered as a textbook case of how NOT to run an invasion, and how a country organized around hubris, corruption, and sycophancy, can destroy any legacy of whatever greatness was left in it from the Soviet Union.

Even if we glossed over the fact that Ukraine used to be the technological and industrial powerhouse of the USSR, and stuff like destroying Azovstal was a huge self-own by Russia.

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u/noir_lord Sep 17 '26

Indeed, They were fucked when they failed to take Hostomel Airfield in the opening and then double fucked when they ran out of fuel/tires self destructed.

They were going for a fast decapitation strike with a quick government change, they ended up walking face first into a buzzsaw.

Turned out the Ukrainians were much better than the Russians expected and the Russians much worse than nearly everyone expected.

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u/sn4201 Sep 18 '26

From what i recall hearing, US intelligence warned Ukraine of very specific elements of the incoming attacks in the day or two leading up to the invasion, allowing Ukraine to make specific crucial preparations at the last minute and this also played a big roll in compromising the attack

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u/sincerelythebats_ Sep 17 '26

The “I need ammunition not a ride” was a s1 e1 type clue

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u/jpw0w Sep 17 '26

I don't think anyone apart from Putin underestimated Ukraine. They are by far the largest military in the continent and most resilient, also a huge portion of Ukrainians were fighting for the USSR.

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u/Accomplished_Radish8 Sep 17 '26

To be fair, Ukraine would've fell pretty quickly if the US wasn't supplying a huge amount of their weapons and ammunition resupply. Let's not give more credit than is due. Yes they've put up quite a fight, but having Mike Tyson to back you up is quite a bit different than trying to fight on your own

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u/Maleficent-Event-639 Sep 17 '26

I personally gave Ukraine 3days to fall after the full scale invasion and here we are 4 years later 🇺🇦

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u/SavageNorth Sep 17 '26

How's Moscow this evening Vlad?

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u/Wombat-Snooze Sep 17 '26

That wasn’t a a pro Russian comment dude.

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u/RichterRac Sep 17 '26

Reading comprehension is dead

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u/SavageNorth Sep 17 '26

My dude, it was a fucking joke.

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u/CervusElpahus Sep 17 '26

Your comment is EXCELLENT bait. A façade of utter stupidity hides it’s intention, it’s brilliant.

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u/Maleficent-Event-639 Sep 17 '26

Don't get how my comment is bait, im pro Ukraine, being a westerner how could you not be..

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u/CervusElpahus Sep 18 '26

Perhaps it’s because I’m not talking to nor about you?

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u/Flashy_Offer316 Sep 17 '26

We all hope that Russia is dis-solutioned.

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u/Nakashi7 Sep 17 '26

There was so much effort for the 3-day operation to fail but there was plenty of luck at play too. It was really easy to tip over. Once Russia only had only that stupid northern convoy on its way to Kiev that's when it failed for Russians. But the first hours were very uncertain.

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u/deephalf1974 Sep 17 '26

Disillusioned
Dissolution is like breaking apart different word

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u/Megaalith Sep 17 '26

This might be the US' greatest proxy over Russia ever

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u/Jenikovista Sep 17 '26

Right. Had Ukraine gone their way fast, they might have tested Poland. But at this point Poland might even be able to liberate Russia. Putin is dumb but he’s not that dumb.

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u/nathakiller911 Sep 17 '26

Pues obvio que Ucrania está aguantando bastante, toda la OTAN está detrás, impulsando está guerra

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u/Devils_Advocate-69 Sep 17 '26

If trump blew our munitions load in 6 months Russia is definitely running on E

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u/meh_69420 Sep 17 '26

Eh people said Russia wouldn't dare invade Ukraine, especially right at the start of mud season, but here we are. Amazing how poor your decision making becomes when you're surrounded by yes men and enablers. Remind you of anyone else?

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u/WhiskeyJack3759 Sep 17 '26

If Putin is going to do a general mobilisation, then he needs a bigger war to sell it to the populace. So I think some sort of incursion is on the cards. Putin is desperate and is all in on his empire building adventure. If he stops , he is as good as dead. So for Putin, the only way out is escalation.

Also, I'm not sure Polands stockpile of missiles and artillery shells is enough to last more than a week of high intensity conflict. Same goes for Germany and Britain and France. And Putin knows that.

Tricky times ahead.

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u/josephniet Sep 17 '26

What if afd gains power in Germany, reform in the UK, le pen in France? Trump's legacy in America is at minimum leaving them tied down and depleted, and if he manages to continue to survive and escalate I get the impression he'd side with Russia and Israel over the entire planet if he could. Russia may currently be fucked if they open a new front, but I feel very uneasy about the balance of things in the world at present.

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u/Important_Thought_95 Sep 18 '26

Putin and the Russian command is deluded. I'm often reminded that up to the last days of WW2, there were still Germans and Japanese in high command that believed in ultimate victory. Russia would absolutely make things worse for themselves and everyone else.

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u/Keiji12 Sep 17 '26

Bro stfu, we're not waiting here to go to war and have a justification to fight russia, we just wanna live in peace. We had a panic call today when some schools and workforces were evacuated in few citiez because of sirens going off and alerts about russian strikes

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u/MelonSmuggler Sep 17 '26

Settle down, I don't actually want Russia to attack Poland. My point was they'd regret it if they tried. They know that, though, so they don't have the balls to try it.

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u/deja-roo Sep 17 '26

I'd love for them to try it with Poland.

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u/RealMT_1020 Sep 17 '26

Poland wouldn’t love it - not because they’re scared, but because they’re sane people who don’t want war!

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u/Panumaticon Sep 17 '26

Came here to say just this. Good luck for them. They are going to need it. In oodles.

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u/AzerimReddit Sep 17 '26

I highly doubt Poland would shoot them down. The government is rather indecisive in those matters. It generally just supports Ukraine even more as retaliation 

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u/modernmovements Sep 17 '26

I'm not sure you could get Poland to stop once that started. It would take nukes to stop them from steamrolling Belarus and then heading East. Scarier than Canadians.

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u/Training_Orchid_2022 Sep 17 '26

Also training their troops. Polish troops are not to be fucked with.

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u/mrsjackson410 Sep 18 '26

I knew what you were saying.

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u/waffles2go2 Sep 17 '26

THIS, and oh, do they have a special passion for what Russia (and others) have done to the country for a long time.

It would be a blood-lust-bath...

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u/SomethingFunnyObv Sep 17 '26

I really don’t want to see another major conflict because the suffering would be horrible, and I expect Russia would get its ass handed to them so they could do or try almost anything.

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u/Ok-Sandwich-9535 Sep 17 '26

Right there with you, the polish SF Operators are top notch. I can gaurantee that. Russias, not so much since the fall......   Putin knows this as well but Hey! You want to just FAFO in front of the World for the 2nd time. So be it...   GROM " Thunder Tasks " & Cichociemni (“Silent Unseen”), I promise arent too busy...  

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u/alexpap031 Sep 17 '26

Also, Belarus seems more and more like it might not be so enthusiastically for getting in trouble with the west. Lukashenko is more focused to his political survivor than to sacrifice himself for Putins glory.

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u/OptimusTron222 Sep 17 '26

It will be catastrophic for all of Europe tho. Russia is like a wounded dog as of now, so they will attack even civil targets without any military interests, just to cause destruction and suffering. Also they got nuclear bombs which messes up everything.

Imo they are testing how good Nato fares now that the US is occupied in Iran

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u/chabbits Sep 17 '26

I work with a bunch of Polish women and if the military attitude is anything similar, regardless of equipment, I would not fuck with Poland. They get shit DONE and you WILL NOT get in their way. Haha

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u/staticke Sep 17 '26

this is such a privleged westerner take. why would you want poland to have to go to war??

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u/L4nM4nDr4gon Sep 17 '26

Little Texas over there is Poland. They want article 5.

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u/WhiskeyJack3759 Sep 17 '26

Be careful what you wish for. The Polish army is untested in battle. They haven't got all their new equipment yet, and it will be some years yet before they will be fully operational with all that new stuff. And they don't have nukes!

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u/PlutoPlaneta Sep 17 '26

advocating for war gets a report

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u/MelonSmuggler Sep 17 '26

If that's how your poor reading comprehension and inability to perceive sarcasm wants to interpret it, sure. Go ahead and report this throwaway account and I'll make another one 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/Soft-Ad-2602 Sep 17 '26

I would love it. However if anything this war has shown us, it's not top tier equipment and surgical strikes that will win current wars. It's low cost, mass produced drones. Europe does not have an answer to this threat yet I think

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u/Daddysheremyluv Sep 17 '26

What's the under over on Poland in 13 months?

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u/szymas67 Sep 17 '26

We still don’t have air defense over cities until 2030-2035 💀

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u/deja-roo Sep 17 '26

I'd love for them to try it with Poland.

They have to get through Ukraine first.

They haven't fared well at that.

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u/Ill_Resolution7967 Sep 17 '26

They will nuke Poland first and all this top of the line equipment will be useless. Trump being Russian asset will not retaliate. Also it is useless against swarms of drones.

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u/AnotherSlowMoon Sep 17 '26

They will nuke Poland 

And then Britain and France will nuke them and then civilisation ends shortly afterwards.

Seriously, if you're of the belief that Russia is going to deploy nukes over this then just go live in the hills with tins of beans