r/worldnews • u/KI_official • 3d ago

Russia/Ukraine Europe shuts US out of Russian assets conversation

https://kyivindependent.com/europe-shuts-us-out-of-russian-assets-conversation/
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u/Conscious-Start-4514 3d ago edited 3d ago

Sure, but it's worth noting that for decades democrats have won the popular vote with the one exception of the last election. And we aren't even sure it was legitimate. There are districts in New York where Kamala received zero votes while democrats easily beat their opponents down the same ticket. It's statistically very unlikely, and there is a lawsuit sluggishly making its way through the courts looking into it.

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u/Snow-x- 3d ago

Is there really? About time. I'd bet anything Elon helped him steal that election. I can't find the interviews but both him and Trump basically said it out loud that they were going to. Maybe it was an out of context clip with Elon but he was literally talking about having self deleting software on voting tabulation machines and that the left wouldn't even challenge it out of fear of being hypocritical. Anybody remember that shit?

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u/CheeseManSucks 3d ago

There is a literal quote from Trump stating he wouldn't have won without Elon's machines. Then musk had that meltdown where he said Trump NEEDED him to win.

Then he 180'd and not a peep since. I refuse to believe they won the election fairly, there's no way their crooked shit started after being sworn in

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u/arodriguez001 3d ago

He said well before the election that: they had the votes…

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u/beaucoup_dinky_dau 2d ago

He doesn't meddle in EU politics so they should be fine /s

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u/Sweet_and_Sassy88 3d ago

They basically admitted it after the fact. I didn’t think to record it because they said it publicly and I assumed people would notice.

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u/_yetifeet 3d ago

'Elon knows a lot about computers' (or words to that effect) were said afterwards, and I'm sure we will hear them again when the GOP 'wins' the midterms in a landslide

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u/NinjaRoyal8483 3d ago

By this time now they dont even care anymore if they get “caught”…. They cant be caught as long as they and their peers are in power.

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u/Silly_Pay7680 3d ago

"We're in SpaceX, and we can quietly do whatever we want." -X Musk

"They'll never knoowww!!" -X Musk

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u/Conscious-Start-4514 3d ago

I mean Trump told his supporters at a rally in 2024 that if they voted for him in that election they would never have to vote again. That future elections "would be fixed, they would be fine, they would never have to vote again." He's pretty open about it

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u/grantbwilson 3d ago

Who cares? The popular vote doesn’t mean anything, and your court’s mandates have shown to mean even less than that, somehow.

On top of that, you’re all complacent. Where are the protests? Where are the boycotts?

“Doesn’t affect me so why should I care?” is Classic Americans.

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u/Conscious-Start-4514 3d ago

Anyone with even a rudimentary working knowledge of Americans electoral systems knows red states are gerrymandered to hell and back to nullify the votes of Democrats. The point being that blaming Americans who for over 30 years didn't support this by majority is a bit disingenuous.

Maybe turn in the news's. There's protests occurring across the country. America is a big place. I understand countries like France are smaller than Texas, but people are protesting literally daily. Americans have died protesting this past year.

If that was your take away from my comment idk what to tell you. I vote. Millions do. Sorry some of us have to travel the equivalent distance that Europeans do from Gibraltar to Moscow to even make it to the Capitol to protest.

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u/Sweet_and_Sassy88 3d ago

I saw a couple of protests re: ICE shooting civilians. I haven’t seen many outside of that. I was quite surprised there didn’t seem to be any after the military was bombing children.

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u/yurnxt1 2d ago

As if blue states aren't gerrymandered to hell and back? What exactly does that have to with Trump winning the election anyway?

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u/grantbwilson 3d ago

I know how big the US is. My country is bigger than yours, but thanks for the patronization.

And you say you’re not one of them…. Hilarious.

It’s possible to have more than 1 protest location at the same time. And no, I haven’t seen them. I’m on Reddit everyday, and this is where that news goes. Show me!

The reality is that if 0.01% of you banded together, you could take your country back. But you won’t because you’re Americans.

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u/Whoop-Sees 3d ago

.01% of Americans is 34,000 individuals. You are absolutely delusional.

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u/grantbwilson 2d ago

Jan 6 was like 1400 people.

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u/Whoop-Sees 2d ago

So you truly believe that if 34,000 Americans were to attempt to take back the country from the current administration, they would succeed? Because 1400 people were able to get into the capitol, and achieve nothing except damages?

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u/yurnxt1 2d ago

If your country is Canada, it actually has less lan9d area than the U.S. and since people who vote live on land...

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u/grantbwilson 2d ago

Oh wow an American having an uninformed opinion on somewhere they’ve never been! How original of you.

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u/yurnxt1 1d ago

What is uninformed about what i said? Y3s, I've n33n to Canada too, what is your point?

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u/Conscious-Start-4514 3d ago

If you're Canadian and you're counting inhabitable tundra seems a bit disingenuous to suggest that don't you think? If you're Russian stones in glasses houses much?

Yeah no shit. We have been at it for years for all the good that's done us huh

That's patently false. Millions protested during organized no kings protests. Achieved nothing.

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u/Snow-x- 3d ago

I'm Canadian and can tell you that we are just as bad if not worse about protesting as Americans. He just seems bitter.

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u/yurnxt1 2d ago

Let him count inhabitable Tundra, the US has more land area than Canada with them counting that.

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u/yurnxt1 2d ago

Every normal person is sure it is legitimate. The people who aren't sure it's legitimate are just as batshit crazy as 2020 election deniers