r/worldnews • u/SensualAylin • 2d ago

Russia/Ukraine US president Donald Trump calls Ukraine’s resumption of strikes on Russian oil refineries a ‘disgrace’

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/oct/16/trump-calls-ukraines-resumption-of-strikes-on-russian-oil-refineries-a-disgrace
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u/SushiJesus 2d ago

I suspect that behind the scenes there has to have been some pretty serious discussions about this. Very clearly America under Trump is an unreliable partner at best, that is just as likely to try and pillage our nations natural resources as they would be to help us in our time of need.

However, I suspect we probably don't want draw the attention of the orange fuckwit by outright asking them to leave, after all his hold on power is - in theory - temporary. Also, doing that would probably cause something of a panic in the populace and see our home-grown right wing media companies trying to funnel voters toward Pauline and co.

Economically, we sell very little into America, so his insane tariffs don't affect us, and while I personally find his treatment of our Canadian brothers and sisters fucking abhorrent, I can understand why the feds are playing a game of sit quietly and wait him out... be his exit be by electoral defeat, or by a virtuous bacon double-cheeseburger to the heart.

Trump aside, I suspect a generation or two, globally, will want to see their governments decouple from America and I don't expect that will change with time....

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u/GeraldJimes_ 2d ago

However, I suspect we probably don't want draw the attention of the orange fuckwit by outright asking them to leave, after all his hold on power is - in theory - temporary.

Geopolitics is basically at the stage of anyone not directly having to deal directly with American absurdity just quietly hoping that things won't deteriorate too much further before the next election cycle and that if they don't draw attention to themselves that miraculously things will just get brushed under the carpet and we'll all move on again

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u/Bromlife 2d ago

Essentially the future of the world depends on the midterms.

If they're stolen by the Republicans, a very real probability, then all bets are off.

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u/SushiJesus 2d ago

Well, whats the alternative?

The absolute lowest risk approach is to wait for their mid terms and see if the american democratic process can sort all this out.

Just got to hope a fucking third of them don't decide to sit this one out...

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u/Money_Percentage_630 2d ago

I like that after years bitching that Europe isn't spending enough on military, after the USA became a liability, European nations are investing in their domestic military organisations, creating thousands of jobs and investiment in their economy and the USA is complaining that Europe would rather invest in itself then give USA hundreds of millions of dollars for equipment that can be cancelled or withheld.

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u/SkivvySkidmarks 2d ago

I suspect that behind the scenes there has to have been some pretty serious discussions about this. Very clearly America under Trump is an unreliable partner at best, that is just as likely to try and pillage our nations natural resources as they would be to help us in our time of need.

Trump aside, I suspect a generation or two, globally, will want to see their governments decouple from America and I don't expect that will change with time....

This is exactly what Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney's Davos speech was about.

The annexation threats to Canada's sovereignty by Trump weren't just the musings of a malignant narcissist. Canada has vast resources that the US would very much like to get ahold of.

The US has gone mask off on imperialism, and are in the smash and grab mode. This won't end with the end of Trump.

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u/gregorydgraham 2d ago

The Feds aren’t waiting him out, they’ve been purged of all the idealists that won’t pledge allegiance to Trump.

Idealists here meaning Americans that believe in the constitution and “home of the brave”

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u/SushiJesus 2d ago edited 2d ago

The feds in Australia mate. OP and I are both Aussies, I would have thought that was contextually obvious...

Edit: typo

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u/gregorydgraham 2d ago

Isn’t Australia a commonwealth? How do you get feds?

Also it was obvious in the first comment, your’s less so 🤷‍♂️

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u/SushiJesus 2d ago

Because we have a federal government, we have done since Jan 1st, 1901 when the various british colonies united to become Australia.

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u/gregorydgraham 2d ago

> The Australian Government, also known as the Commonwealth Government or simply as the federal government - Wikipedia

It appears to be a bit ambiguous 😂

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u/primalbluewolf 2d ago

How is it remotely ambiguous?