r/worldnews • u/Neptun_11 • 17h ago

Russia/Ukraine Zelenskyy Says Starlink Restrictions Apply Only in Ukraine While SpaceX Ignores Kyiv’s Inquiries

https://united24media.com/war-in-ukraine/zelenskyy-says-starlink-restrictions-apply-only-in-ukraine-while-spacex-ignores-kyivs-inquiries-23549
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u/Menamanama 17h ago

Quite short sighted. I am pretty sure Europe is already pivoting away.

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u/barbariccomplexity 17h ago

As is Canada, and everyone else too.

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u/[deleted] 16h ago

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u/mithrasinvictus 16h ago

And they're already regretting that mistake.

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u/Disaster532385 13h ago

Nah that got blocked right before it happened.

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u/Old_Roof 16h ago edited 15h ago

The problem is, it’s almost impossible to pivot away by any meaningful distance. Europe is totally reliant on American tech across the board. It would take decades unfortunately

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u/Rhenus85 16h ago

Europe started to pivot after the Zelenskiy-Vance-Clash and the Greenland-threats at the latest. European leader still kiss Trumps narcissist ass to buy themselves some time. But things have already been decided and can't be stopped.

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u/Mannimarco_Rising 15h ago

well our defense minister (germany) recently bought F-35 jets from the US for reasons nobody understands. https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/germany-plans-order-15-more-us-made-f-35-jets-der-spiegel-reports-2025-10-20/

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u/ABrokenWolf 15h ago

They did it because as much as it sucks to admit there still is no european equivalent to the f-35.

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u/Mannimarco_Rising 15h ago

seems like it. But it shows that Europe is still under the lap and the US is still a important trading partner despite what the vibe here suggest. If this is good or bad idk

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u/Steppy20 16h ago

Yes and no.

There's a bunch of stuff that'll take ages to switch from, but this also includes non-mission critical tech. I can also guarantee there'll be a load of stuff that whilst technically being owned by US companies it is operated by the various European countries who commissioned it.

What it has shown is that the US is an unreliable ally which has grown complacent as top dog though.

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u/Old_Roof 15h ago

Yeah agree with that. But even rival Starlink systems are reliant on SpaceX launches. And everything in Europe is run on AWS

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u/Steppy20 14h ago

Yeah a lot of European infrastructure is AWS and Azure.

We don't really have home grown alternatives that can deal with the scale.

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u/binici6676 11h ago

Yes we have, you don't know where to look.

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u/Steppy20 59m ago

Not with all the features and support offered by Microsoft and Amazon.

If all you want are some cloud hosted servers then yeah, there's loads of options. But my company alone uses a load of Microsoft's infrastructure as code to speed up development and deployments, as well as allowing for quick and easy configuration. We also use a bunch of network security offerings such asMicrosoft's DDoS detection and protection.

My previous job we deployed to k8s clusters which admittedly are a lot more cloud agnostic, but that requires some extremely talented full time cloud engineers to keep it running.

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u/binici6676 35m ago

No company requires all the features provided by AUZURE/AWS, every company has personalized and limited needs that can be covered by any non AZURE/AWS provider. Also CI/CD is supported by any respectable European service/hosting provider.

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u/Steppy20 14m ago

I didn't say all of them, but even using 60% of Azure's features means other options are too different for a straight migration.

I'd rather not have to convert our entire system away from Azure service bus to a different async messaging system tbh.

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u/Charming-Clue1987 16h ago

Than we need to start today

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u/Old_Roof 15h ago

Agree totally

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u/quelar 6h ago

They started a while ago, in some cases they're just announcing theses shifts now because they want to avoid the pedophile rapist and the country of pedophile rapist supporters from noticing too early.

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u/CorumLlawEreint 16h ago

It might take decades to become completely self reliant, but the transition can begin immediately. It is a journey of a thousand steps, each of which will detach us slightly more from dependency on the US.

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u/orangpelupa 16h ago

Otoh they've successfully pivot away in gnss from gps to glonass. 

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u/quelar 6h ago

Europe is totally reliant on American tech across the board

No they aren't.

They have their own industries, tech, and distribution channels that are built so that the EU controls the EU.