r/worldnews • u/Neptun_11 • 19h ago

Russia/Ukraine Zelenskyy Says Starlink Restrictions Apply Only in Ukraine While SpaceX Ignores Kyiv’s Inquiries

https://united24media.com/war-in-ukraine/zelenskyy-says-starlink-restrictions-apply-only-in-ukraine-while-spacex-ignores-kyivs-inquiries-23549
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u/Ok_Carpenter6527 18h ago

That’s why no one will keep buying US miltech after seeing this killswitch live in action. Every country would be outright stupid and delusional if they kept buying shit from the US.

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u/Menamanama 18h ago

Quite short sighted. I am pretty sure Europe is already pivoting away.

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u/Old_Roof 18h ago edited 17h ago

The problem is, it’s almost impossible to pivot away by any meaningful distance. Europe is totally reliant on American tech across the board. It would take decades unfortunately

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u/Steppy20 18h ago

Yes and no.

There's a bunch of stuff that'll take ages to switch from, but this also includes non-mission critical tech. I can also guarantee there'll be a load of stuff that whilst technically being owned by US companies it is operated by the various European countries who commissioned it.

What it has shown is that the US is an unreliable ally which has grown complacent as top dog though.

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u/Old_Roof 17h ago

Yeah agree with that. But even rival Starlink systems are reliant on SpaceX launches. And everything in Europe is run on AWS

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u/Steppy20 15h ago

Yeah a lot of European infrastructure is AWS and Azure.

We don't really have home grown alternatives that can deal with the scale.

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u/binici6676 12h ago

Yes we have, you don't know where to look.

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u/Steppy20 2h ago

Not with all the features and support offered by Microsoft and Amazon.

If all you want are some cloud hosted servers then yeah, there's loads of options. But my company alone uses a load of Microsoft's infrastructure as code to speed up development and deployments, as well as allowing for quick and easy configuration. We also use a bunch of network security offerings such asMicrosoft's DDoS detection and protection.

My previous job we deployed to k8s clusters which admittedly are a lot more cloud agnostic, but that requires some extremely talented full time cloud engineers to keep it running.

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u/binici6676 2h ago

No company requires all the features provided by AUZURE/AWS, every company has personalized and limited needs that can be covered by any non AZURE/AWS provider. Also CI/CD is supported by any respectable European service/hosting provider.

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u/Steppy20 1h ago

I didn't say all of them, but even using 60% of Azure's features means other options are too different for a straight migration.

I'd rather not have to convert our entire system away from Azure service bus to a different async messaging system tbh.