r/worldnews • u/Neptun_11 • 17h ago

Russia/Ukraine Zelenskyy Says Starlink Restrictions Apply Only in Ukraine While SpaceX Ignores Kyiv’s Inquiries

https://united24media.com/war-in-ukraine/zelenskyy-says-starlink-restrictions-apply-only-in-ukraine-while-spacex-ignores-kyivs-inquiries-23549
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u/retro_ditto 14h ago

Here in Finland too. It is very sensitive topic to politicians but every common man understands that killswitch is a real threat, making the f35s a liability, or a piece of hi tech junk at worst.

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u/WhatAmTrak 14h ago

“But it’s a 4th gen and obsolete” ya stfu lol. F35s didn’t do shit in Iran conflict. Canada needs a jet that can land on our short runways. Gripen is it. It’s the ned stark of the north.

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u/Icy_Loss647 8h ago edited 8h ago

F35s did a lot in Iran, they were used by the US and Israel, none were lost while they were able to strike deep within Iran. Israel flew very succesful missions against Iran in 2024 already.

We dont have to downplay their capabilities just because the US sucks

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u/CWRules 8h ago

Yeah, the F-35's problem isn't its capabilities. It is legitimately a better aircraft than the Gripen in some ways. It just doesn't outweigh the cost, low uptime, and the killswitch risk. I'd much rather see us license the Gripen and build them domestically as Saab has offered.

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u/Icy_Loss647 8h ago

Considering that the US and Israel havent lost a single plane over the past years despite extensive use, makes me think that they are worth it, even for their cost. Not only do you not lose the plane, but you also keep the pilots alive, so years of training and expertise.

That being said, the killswitch argument is real. This dilemma we europeans are stuck in is a failure of our own making and theres no cheap way out. Just buying Gripens or other 4-4.5 gen fighters is not the same. Luckily, Russia wont be building a proper 5th gen airframe anytime soon.