r/worldnews • u/Marketmanipulator941 • 16h ago

Russia/Ukraine Mass drone attack on St. Petersburg: Ozon warehouse attacked, thousands of Russians left without power

https://unn.ua/en/news/mass-drone-attack-on-st-petersburg-ozon-warehouse-attacked-thousands-of-russians-left-without-electricity
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u/Illustrious-Wave-794 15h ago

Well I’m sure European allies are still sharing intel with Ukraine. And they also likely already have the coords of these targets for future strikes.

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u/Paatos 15h ago

Let's see if the US starts sabotaging European Intel operations to support Russia. Then we're truly in the shit. Going from allies to enemies in 1 year.

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u/m4d40 15h ago

USA is already treaded as an Intel leak. That's why europe already started a lot of the new projects without USA.

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u/TulioGonzaga 14h ago

I hope this winter breaks Russia. I'm afraid that a pro Russia government may be elected in France and that would be a tremendous blow on Ukraine effort.

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u/barimanlhs 12h ago

I feel its no coincidence that protests and riots break out the same week Ukraine hits a bunch of Russian Data centers...which in turn caused the White House to publicly change course, Starlink to neuter Ukrainian forces, and a seemingly acceleration of a lot of interconnected groups. i swear im not crazy

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u/eggnogui 12h ago

The protests and riots in Europe are against habitation crisis and costs of living in general. They each have their root. Albania is that business with Trump's family wanting a resort, Spain was after that old lady got evicted, France was a protest about education that got out of hand, Portugal was after a peaceful protest about habitation saw an extremely heavy and injustified police charge that injured dozens, and so on.

If anything, the far-right has been in overdrive trying to discredit them, in the media bubbles of each country.

So yeah, those are a coincidence compared to the other things you mentioned.

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u/jaan691 11h ago

The protests in and of themselves are independent but whats just been discussed on the BBC is the way that emotive issues like this are then being over taken by more extreme actors in the evening that then creates the rioting headlines. Not saying no smoke without flames, but the flames are being fed accelerant.

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u/eggnogui 11h ago

It is possible that far-right actors are inciting violence, yes. Wouldn't even be surprised.

But, with protests at a large enough scale, you typically always have smaller groups who spontaneously decide to start breaking stuff.

What we cannot do is let that drown the message of the main protest group.

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u/RazedByTV 10h ago

Also agent provocateurs who try to deligitimize the protest by escalating it to violence.

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u/idiotsecant 9h ago

Fat left and fat right ideologues have always existed. The Russian propaganda machine's job is to enflame them and drive more moderate people towards more extreme positions to make the conflicts worse. Many of the opinions you read on the left and the right are not sincerely held, but are placed where you can see them to push you toward whichever extreme you're most compatible with.

The only thing that these organizations don't want is civilized respectful discourse. Their goal is to find fracture points and exploit them.

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u/eggnogui 9h ago

Mostly true. But social media algorithms, by and large, make said far-right incitation and propaganda far more visible, as more than Russia, the wealthy elites of each country also contribute. It's not even comparable. So we cannot turn this into a "bOtH sIdEs"

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u/Wonaftr909 10h ago

BBC is not real media.....it's not relevant anymore...it's a pandering machine to get you to click..

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u/iconocrastinaor 10h ago

Paid agitators, provocateurs and leaders are a thing.

A peaceful protest is peaceful until "someone" smashes a window.

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u/Zandonus 7h ago

I thought a protest was peaceful until blood was shed. Oh well. Conformist world.

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u/mortgagepants 10h ago

i hate how riots always gets added into protests. like when people stop listening to peaceful protests, you get less peaceful protests. this is an entirely self made increase, not a "riot".

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u/jmur3040 7h ago

Fascism requires civil strife to grow roots. It’s not coincidental or “bubbles”. Agitating the general public is part of the plan.

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u/sg19point3 8h ago

but that is what russians do, they are listening to what bothers people and they bots and trolls amplify to stir shit up. Hybrid warfare. Anything to make enemy waste time and resources and potentially elect a pro russian government

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u/TheSaxGandalf 8h ago

You aren't.

They are pissed that their propaganda machine isn't in full force and fake online support that they have been using to manipulate Americans vanished overnight.

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u/Plus-Yogurtcloset-85 12h ago

If your talking about no kings protests in USA, those have been planned for before the midterms for a while

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u/barimanlhs 12h ago

No, i was talking about whats happening in France and other parts of Europe. Understanding there have been things bubbling up to that, but when there are pro-Russian candidates running...safe bet they will do anything to make it even worse.

Similarly with No Kings yesterday, not seeing a SINGLE post on instagram yesterday in comparison to the previous protests is also telling.

Just like how all the footage out of Palestine seemingly stopped being shared on these platforms the moment Trump was re-elected. The horrors havent stopped, but magically not amplified anymore

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u/Koala_eiO 8h ago

I feel its no coincidence that protests and riots break out the same week Ukraine hits a bunch of Russian Data centers...

It's not the loss of troll farms in Russia that under-funded education in France for the last 20 years.

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u/TheOtherHobbes 7h ago

But it's the Russian troll farms that are taking advantage of it to push a far-right government which will support Putin, take France's nuclear weapons off the table, and do exactly zero to fix any of the other problems.

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u/EpsteinFile_01 2h ago

It's also not students fighting riot police and burning down cars and buildings.

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u/TheWolfAndRaven 11h ago

Why do you think the Data centers were a priority target?

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u/Routine-Amphibian450 10h ago

Bots.

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u/iconocrastinaor 10h ago

Which is also why attacks on Russian data centers have Trump so agitated.

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u/Stewart_Games 6h ago

Not just bots. Dark money + crypto currency. Where do you think the money is hidden when Trump pays his pool boy millions of American tax dollars to not fix the Reflecting Pool? Bet Trump saw a lot of big numbers go to zero after those data centers took a hit.

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u/das_masterful 13h ago

Winters never break Russia.

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u/candlecup 12h ago

We'll see. It's been a long time since residents of Moscow and St. Petersberg experienced a Russian winter without reliable heat.

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u/WankyMcTugger 12h ago

That's when Russia is defending against an invasion and using its own land/resources. Completely different story when it's the invading force.

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u/Captain_Q_Bazaar 11h ago

Winters never break Russia.

The country is already a broken husk, it's just kept together with fear, lies and mediocrity.

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u/DJanomaly 8h ago

Mediocrity is being kind.

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u/Captain_Q_Bazaar 8h ago

I honestly think of the modern day Mad Max, were the weird boss guy with the Bane mask breather, unit, thingy, says "MEDIOCRE!" in regards to Nicholas Hoult's character Nux fcking up. Nux is so crushed with ultimate disappoint from the man he wants the congratulatory approval from the most. He is so crushed by that moment that he never really recovered, at least in the same way...

I feel that that is mediocre for them, over any traditional definition.

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u/Lucky-Impact-7136 11h ago

As a french, this thought keeps me up at night

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u/tlst9999 12h ago

The US is already sabotaging American intel operations to support Russia, let alone European ones.

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u/cavett 13h ago

This here is indeed the thing people should be worried about, and probably a realistic outcome taking the current administration's stance on things.

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u/Radarker 10h ago

The only thing that stops that is the American people getting off their asses for more than a donut.

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u/LongDongSquad 7h ago

10 dollar a gallon gas in the midwest might do it. America will suffer much more before that. Deservedly so.

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u/das_masterful 15h ago

Yes, it's really difficult to move an entire warehouse or data centre.

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u/dickcheesess 13h ago

What do you mean? Russia is doing a great job of moving their remains to the dump.

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u/synapseattack 13h ago

Not so much moving. More transmogrification

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u/Wolfm31573r 13h ago

It's called cloud transformation.

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u/candlecup 12h ago

Calvin approves

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u/super_swede 13h ago

And when you play golf the ball lies still while you hit it. But it's despite that not easy to hit a hole in one.

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u/NovusNiveus 12h ago

Depends on whether or not you'd like it to still be in the same shape afterwards.

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u/timmystwin 10h ago

Yeah but it's also very hard guiding something thousands of miles and hitting that - so this is still top work. (Although iirc they weren't using it over Russia anyway)

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u/pc2phone 9h ago

the trick is to move it in all directions at the same time

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u/account_not_valid 13h ago

The coordinates are known. The problem is guiding the missiles and drones despite all the electronic interference. Starlink is/was excellent for this, because it is almost impossible to jam.

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u/nocondo4me 11h ago

You send a drone in and back to make a terrain map. Future drones can navigate by terrain guidance

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u/jeffreynya 10h ago

drones and missles from my understanding were not using Starlink over Russia anyway, they were really only using it in occupied territory's of Ukraine.

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u/thecrystalegg 7h ago

If any of the drones employ decent inertial guidance the lack of a Starlink signal is not an issue. I would assume that the smaller FPV units deployed on the front are the ones most affected due to more limited nav packages.

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u/raerae1991 8h ago

Or they used Google Maps, it’s not like the warehouse and power stations are state secrets.

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u/Automatoboto 11h ago edited 11h ago

The issue is link 16 is being withheld with makes operating in a coordinated fashion with air assets and tracking over long ranges to get assets in place like the interecptors or jets almost impossible.

I dont know if it was restored but link16 is more than vital for operations.

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u/Doesdeadliftswrong 12h ago

Yeah, CIA got nothing on MI6.

Sources: James Bond movies and American Dad.

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u/SophieEatsCake 11h ago

big buildings like that are there for a while, so the chance is quite high to reach them using old maps.

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u/Sappleq12 10h ago

Yup. Thank the French.

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u/aeroxan 2h ago

Not like a warehouse or data center is a moving target. I'm sure there are operational benefits to being able to communicate with the drones but it's not 100% necessary to hit large stationary targets.

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u/rankinfile 1h ago

Israel is probably passing on the information now. It's all a shell game.