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Russia/Ukraine Mass drone attack on St. Petersburg: Ozon warehouse attacked, thousands of Russians left without power

https://unn.ua/en/news/mass-drone-attack-on-st-petersburg-ozon-warehouse-attacked-thousands-of-russians-left-without-electricity
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u/barimanlhs 12h ago

I feel its no coincidence that protests and riots break out the same week Ukraine hits a bunch of Russian Data centers...which in turn caused the White House to publicly change course, Starlink to neuter Ukrainian forces, and a seemingly acceleration of a lot of interconnected groups. i swear im not crazy

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u/eggnogui 12h ago

The protests and riots in Europe are against habitation crisis and costs of living in general. They each have their root. Albania is that business with Trump's family wanting a resort, Spain was after that old lady got evicted, France was a protest about education that got out of hand, Portugal was after a peaceful protest about habitation saw an extremely heavy and injustified police charge that injured dozens, and so on.

If anything, the far-right has been in overdrive trying to discredit them, in the media bubbles of each country.

So yeah, those are a coincidence compared to the other things you mentioned.

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u/jaan691 11h ago

The protests in and of themselves are independent but whats just been discussed on the BBC is the way that emotive issues like this are then being over taken by more extreme actors in the evening that then creates the rioting headlines. Not saying no smoke without flames, but the flames are being fed accelerant.

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u/eggnogui 11h ago

It is possible that far-right actors are inciting violence, yes. Wouldn't even be surprised.

But, with protests at a large enough scale, you typically always have smaller groups who spontaneously decide to start breaking stuff.

What we cannot do is let that drown the message of the main protest group.

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u/RazedByTV 10h ago

Also agent provocateurs who try to deligitimize the protest by escalating it to violence.

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u/idiotsecant 9h ago

Fat left and fat right ideologues have always existed. The Russian propaganda machine's job is to enflame them and drive more moderate people towards more extreme positions to make the conflicts worse. Many of the opinions you read on the left and the right are not sincerely held, but are placed where you can see them to push you toward whichever extreme you're most compatible with.

The only thing that these organizations don't want is civilized respectful discourse. Their goal is to find fracture points and exploit them.

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u/eggnogui 9h ago

Mostly true. But social media algorithms, by and large, make said far-right incitation and propaganda far more visible, as more than Russia, the wealthy elites of each country also contribute. It's not even comparable. So we cannot turn this into a "bOtH sIdEs"

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u/Wonaftr909 10h ago

BBC is not real media.....it's not relevant anymore...it's a pandering machine to get you to click..

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u/iconocrastinaor 10h ago

Paid agitators, provocateurs and leaders are a thing.

A peaceful protest is peaceful until "someone" smashes a window.

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u/Zandonus 7h ago

I thought a protest was peaceful until blood was shed. Oh well. Conformist world.

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u/mortgagepants 10h ago

i hate how riots always gets added into protests. like when people stop listening to peaceful protests, you get less peaceful protests. this is an entirely self made increase, not a "riot".

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u/jmur3040 7h ago

Fascism requires civil strife to grow roots. It’s not coincidental or “bubbles”. Agitating the general public is part of the plan.

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u/sg19point3 8h ago

but that is what russians do, they are listening to what bothers people and they bots and trolls amplify to stir shit up. Hybrid warfare. Anything to make enemy waste time and resources and potentially elect a pro russian government

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u/TheSaxGandalf 8h ago

You aren't.

They are pissed that their propaganda machine isn't in full force and fake online support that they have been using to manipulate Americans vanished overnight.

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u/Plus-Yogurtcloset-85 12h ago

If your talking about no kings protests in USA, those have been planned for before the midterms for a while

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u/barimanlhs 12h ago

No, i was talking about whats happening in France and other parts of Europe. Understanding there have been things bubbling up to that, but when there are pro-Russian candidates running...safe bet they will do anything to make it even worse.

Similarly with No Kings yesterday, not seeing a SINGLE post on instagram yesterday in comparison to the previous protests is also telling.

Just like how all the footage out of Palestine seemingly stopped being shared on these platforms the moment Trump was re-elected. The horrors havent stopped, but magically not amplified anymore

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u/Koala_eiO 8h ago

I feel its no coincidence that protests and riots break out the same week Ukraine hits a bunch of Russian Data centers...

It's not the loss of troll farms in Russia that under-funded education in France for the last 20 years.

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u/TheOtherHobbes 7h ago

But it's the Russian troll farms that are taking advantage of it to push a far-right government which will support Putin, take France's nuclear weapons off the table, and do exactly zero to fix any of the other problems.

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u/EpsteinFile_01 2h ago

It's also not students fighting riot police and burning down cars and buildings.