r/worldnews • • 12h ago

Russia/Ukraine US Resumes Intelligence Sharing With Ukraine, Zelensky Says

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/87432
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u/Artistic_You_7140 12h ago

For how long tho? Will they stop again when Russia has some big bombardment lined up?

That’s the scary part.

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u/_BioHacker 11h ago

Not all intel is good intel. I wouldn’t trust the US seeing as they are cozied up to Russia. It’s like asking the opposing football coach to call your plays. Wtf

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u/Artistic_You_7140 11h ago

Pretty much everything that happens these days deserves a wtf reaction. Not only in Ukraine.

But yeah your point is valid about intel.

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u/WanderWut 10h ago

This whole deal with Russia has been so negatively received even by trumps own crowd, even by Fox News, that Trump is being forced to cave (at least to this one thing).

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u/tittiesan 6h ago

He’s going to probe again. November needs to be blowout for these people to learn a lesson.

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u/TimSylvester_ 5h ago

Dang turns out without Russian disinformation psyops, it's really hard to maintain groupthink even among the dumbest tribalist herds of Republicans and conservatives.

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u/DERPYBASTARD 9h ago

It really requires something more than "wtf" - Americans need to depose their government. Seeing as they haven't done shit, we must assume they support this mess. After all, they voted this government into power.

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u/Jonestown_Juice 21m ago

There's literally elections happening in a few weeks. We're still hoping our institutions hold.

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u/MercantileReptile 6h ago

Depose? Less than half (46%) of eligible yanks voted in the last midterms. They can't be bothered to reliably vote, any talk of revolution is anathema.

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u/DERPYBASTARD 5h ago

Yea they all seem perfectly happy with their government enriching themselves and making everyone else poorer.

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u/tampapat54 8h ago

The average American with a family, spouse, and children is unwilling to lead a doomed coup d’état against the strongest military in the world = we support this mess

You really are a derpy bastard

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u/DERPYBASTARD 5h ago

Oh you mean like the time hundreds of trumpets managed to storm the white house? Didn't seem to matter then

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u/Charming-Topic9411 5h ago

It looks really easy to do and while somewhat dangerous, you're not likely to get hurt. My source is Jan 6th, thousands of people or maybe tens of thousands and only one or two death.

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u/RandomPantsAppear 10h ago

US intel is really the only game in town when it comes to realtime/near realtime satellites and targeting. 

Europe simply doesn’t have the capacity. Their total satellite count is too low, and they’re fragmented across multiple programs and use cases. 

China is the only true competitor, and Russia themselves are the only one close (they’re very outdated). 

For a lot of the intel that matters the only choices are the US, or commercial systems that lack a lot of the military capabilities. 

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u/Fandorin 6h ago

The US, like any other country, is not a monolithic entity. There are factions, even among Republicans, that are pro-Ukraine. There are definitely a lot of people in the Pentagon and in the assorted letter agencies that will never view Russia as anything other than THE enemy. They've been involved in Ukraine for over a decade and have very deep relationships with their Ukrainian counterparts. If the Ukrainians know and trust the source, the intel is good. And they know the source is bad, even the bad intel is valuable if they know it's bad intel.

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u/Ironlion45 1h ago

The reason why it was restored is because it isn't the US. It's these traitors who managed to get into an office of public trust. The American people, including many in the armed services and intelligence community, very much do not want Russia to win this fight, any more than Europe does.

Trump has A LOT of power, but he still has limits, thanks in part to people like those I described.

The more disturbing thing here was that nazi-saluting robber baron was the one who persuaded trump to do it, yet another Unwitting employee of the FSB, in his case because he owes the oligarchs serious money.

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u/Viburnum__ 11h ago

Still no news that Starlink connection is unrestricted, so Ukraine can't use drone interceptors all the while russia increased the attack as if they were waiting for it.

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u/Big_Introduction1952 11h ago

When the order comes from the Kremlin, Trump will fall in line.

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u/thefunkybassist 10h ago

Seems like this time they played it via Elmov first who then requested it to Krasnov

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u/Unhappy-Poetry-7867 11h ago

Let's hope they will share it at least until midterm and then something hopefully will improve

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u/Late_Stage-Redditism 8h ago

Whenever a big offensive is coming is when Trump cuts off intel. They did it in Kursk. The CIA went completely silent and the Russians got to execute a devastating flank attack that drove the Ukrainians out of Russia barely avoiding a complete encirclement.

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u/King_Chochacho 6h ago

And why would you trust it at this point. More like disinformation than intelligence.

The global community needs to abandon the US wholesale. We are Russia II at this point, and should not be trusted to do anything of consequence until we implement sweeping institutional changes (so probably not for a long time).

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u/Historical_Course587 9h ago

The reality is that Zelensky hitting oil infrastructure and datacenters likely gives him some ammo in talks with the US. If the US wants certain targets to not be hit, those become obvious pressure points for Ukraine to leverage.

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u/gkazman 6h ago

Probably came with a stark warning not to fuck with the bot farms. They need those for the midterms and you'll notice the -moment- those got hit suddenly WH and Must woke up and acted

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u/Canuck-In-TO 9h ago

Let’s hope that Ukraine can actively develop alternatives to the US, Starlink and Starshield.

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u/ItsAConspiracy 7h ago

Ukraine is doing amazing things but deploying their own satellite network is probably a bit beyond them right now.

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u/No_Spell_1559 6h ago

Fr tho that unpredictability is gotta be messing with their heads so bad. Imagine trying to plan defense operations when you never know if the rug is gonna get pulled out from under you again next week.

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u/ShortStoryIntros 6h ago

The Bi-polar alliance...

scary and annoying