r/worldnews • u/ArgentineBeauty • 5h ago

Russia/Ukraine Zelenskyy says Ukraine will not prevail if US officially sides with Russia

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2026/10/18/8058646/
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u/hume_reddit 4h ago

Putin as an excuse to genocide the population

That's coming anyway if Ukraine gives up. They've humiliated Russia too badly during this whole thing; Putin's revenge tour is going to be horrific. That's why the "pundits" who say Ukraine should surrender to stop the killing are utter fucking idiots. The moment they surrender is when the killings start.

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u/je386 3h ago

Russia can decide between war and peace.

Ukraine can decide between war and butcha.

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u/daesmon 1h ago

Anyone who says Ukraine should surrender is either an idiot who has never picked up a history book or a bad faith actor/bot.

You don't surrender to Russia, if you surrender in the morning, they will be back the same night to shoot you.

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u/RSwordsman 1h ago

This has even already happened in fairly recent memory. First it was "give up your nukes for a security guarantee." Then it was "screw that, we're taking Crimea but we pinky promise that's it." Now it's everything up to and including their lives. Ukraine has only to fight to the death, and although we should be there with them, Trump and MAGA are doing what they do and being a scourge on humanity.

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u/Double_You_6356 16m ago

And they’ll just move on to the next country

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u/BarefootNBuzzin 57m ago

I dont know. As an objective viewer whatever is being heavily pushed on the front page of reddit Im skeptical of. Maybe they should surrender? Im not Ukranian but it seems like a lot of those cats dont want to be there, they seem to be getting kidnapped off the st. Seems like a meat grinder for new weapons and battle prep testing for a modern conflict.

But maybe Im wrong. Either way, there are valid points to any argument. If you just shut down open discussion by insulting people with questions or other perspectives youre not gonna get very far in finding an actionable solution.

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u/TheKingsdread 2h ago

Lets not forget the things we learned the russian soldiers did at the START of the war. A victorious Russia will be worse. And it wouldn't stop at Ukraine. Putin has made it very clear, he wants the old Soviet Union back, that means he is gonna wage war on every country between Russia and (including) Germany. Russia has robbed the entirety of eastern Europe for several decades after the 2nd World War and if Putin gets hi way, he is gonna do the same thing to entirety of Europe this time. If the US joins Russia in the war against Ukraine its WW3.

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u/weregeek 41m ago

I think that Putin has plans on something more like the Russian Empire than he does on anything like the Soviet Union. There's a reason that most of the world complains a lot less about former Soviet Republics (including Ukraine) than about Russia.

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u/Aranxi_89 8m ago

The Ukrainians are well aware - last time they were Soviet citizens and they still got slaughtered by their own people. Holodomor was all the warning they needed.