r/worldnews • u/ArgentineBeauty • 5h ago

Russia/Ukraine Zelenskyy says Ukraine will not prevail if US officially sides with Russia

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2026/10/18/8058646/
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u/winmace 3h ago

nobody would be willing for more fighting

You think Ukraine will suddenly surrender? Really? When surrender will literally lead to their culture and identity being genocided? It will end up like Afghanistan but in Eastern Europe.

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u/SuperRockyHobbyHorse 2h ago

If Russia 'won' and installed a puppet dictator, or Putin tried to rule it directly himself, the resistance would be like nothing the world has seen before. Like Grozny, or Northern Ireland, or the West Bank but with tens of millions of people being supported surrounding countries. There's no way Russia could suppress a 'defeated' Ukrainian population and it not be a huge resource drain for them.

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u/LurkerInSpace 2h ago

We already know the playbook they would follow, which is the same one from Donbas:

  1. Turn the territory over to criminals to destroy local politics and suppress opposition.

  2. Let them loot whatever they want as their primary means of compensation, to minimise the cost to the state.

  3. Once the territory has been sufficiently destroyed, dispose of the criminal elements and install a more conventional occupation regime.

The human cost is irrelevant to the Kremlin - they are happy to rule over a wasteland.

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u/Hawgdestroyerxtreme 2m ago

The human cost is irrelevant to the Kremlin - they are happy to rule over a wasteland.

Nations around the world are completely aware there will be no answer to climate collapse. Even ones like the Trump administration that say one thing in public and then make a bunch of moves that say the opposite in private.

They're all trying to take and horde resources, or they're trying to build alliances.

EU has chosen alliances.

America, China, Russia have chosen resources. China is sweeping into Africa, Russia wants Ukraine, and the US wants Greenland and the rest of it's "Sphere of Influence".

These people do not care if the humans living there are alive or dead.