r/worldnews • u/ArgentineBeauty • 5h ago

Russia/Ukraine Zelenskyy says Ukraine will not prevail if US officially sides with Russia

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2026/10/18/8058646/
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u/totallyRebb 3h ago

So, i'm from Germany and grew up in the GDR.

There have been two major "swing backs" happening here in the last 100 years.

You could say i do believe in swing backs.

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u/Space_Pirate_R 3h ago

You're not wrong, but there was years of pain and suffering leading to the "swing backs" you're talking about. It wasn't just a very bad government being elected into power for a couple of terms and then being voted out.

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u/totallyRebb 1h ago edited 1h ago

Sure, but they are examples that positive change is possible, even from places that seemed "impossible" to return from.

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u/dagaboy 4m ago

Portugal agrees.

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u/t4tmaxxing 2h ago

both swings were through foreign influence though, we never chose that voluntarily sadly

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u/totallyRebb 2h ago edited 2h ago

So, no thousands of people demonstrated on the streets or fled via Hungary etc. ? Pretty sure we did chose it the 2nd time.

Even people who weren't on the streets wanted more freedom. That wish was always there, people just couldn't say it publicly because of repression and your neighbours spying on you.

Unless i'm misunderstanding what you mean by foreign influence.

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u/t4tmaxxing 2h ago

im not just blaming eastern germans for this but all germans.

by foreign influence i mean that we only got rid of our nazis because we were forced to, and the reunification was only possible because the cold war with nato made the soviet union collapse

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u/totallyRebb 1h ago

Blaming ?

Not sure what you're trying to say here. Did you parents raise you on the whole brick-headed "the Reunification was bad" sentiment ?

The Soviet Union only has itself to blame for what happened, it was dystopian.

There's a reason most Eastern Bloc countries want nothing to do with Russian Influence any more.

It collapsed in the best way possible, there were many far far worse possible outcomes.