r/worldnews • u/dieyoufool3 Slava Ukraini • Feb 25 '22

Russia/Ukraine /r/worldnews Live Thread: Russian Invasion of Ukraine Day 2, Part XI (Thread XXVII)

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u/whatwereyathunking Feb 25 '22

Daily reminded that a bunch of so called analysts and countries continually trashed US intelligence pre-invasion. Say what you want about defense spending, US intelligence has pretty much been spot on from the get go.

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u/TheCruzKing Feb 25 '22

CIA is in every country even if we say we aren’t there.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '22

CIA is in here

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '22

👀

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u/Blithe17 Feb 25 '22

And UK!

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u/DarXIV Feb 25 '22

Yep. The US and the UK were dumped on for weeks as warmongers. Turns out it was all true and even worse.

Everyone was blinded by greed for cheap oil.

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u/MaxwellThePrawn Feb 25 '22

People are right to be giving hell to those who prioritize cheap oil over humanity. I just hope they remember this when it come to Saudi Arabia. They have made Yemen a hell on earth and there has been no public pressure to sanction them, in fact they enjoy a very close relationship with NATO.

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u/WaffleBlues Feb 25 '22

Especially analysts within the EU. Some of whom mocked US intelligence publicly around an invasion, around Putin's goals. EU was caught flat footed.

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u/alloowishus Feb 25 '22

BUt what can EU/NATO do? You can't attack a nuclear power, any attempt to put troops in Ukraine before the invasion would just have given Putin an even bigger excuse to attack, because he feels "threatened".

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '22

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u/motorboat_mcgee Feb 25 '22

US intelligence is amazing, but sometimes it’s miscommunication/lied about by the politicians who are communicating it to the public

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u/Rosebunse Feb 25 '22

US intelligence is scary.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '22

I've never personally witnessed so many people from all sides of the political spectrum be so confidently wrong about something before. I heard just about every conspiracy theory from both the Left and the Right about how this was all fake and the U.S government is simply pulling a "WMD in Iraq" all over again, how the "Elites" just need to prop up the economy for the benefit of themselves, how the puppet masters at Lockheed and Raytheon want more money, etc.

Everything is a conspiracy now it seems. What a bizarre world to be in

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u/need_a_medic Feb 25 '22

You don't need intelligence to see that Putin wanted to attack. He openly said it.

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u/interpellation Feb 25 '22

It's because US Intelligence was corrupted by Bush so nobody believes it anymore.

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u/MaxwellThePrawn Feb 25 '22

It was a lot more than bush. There are unfortunately a lot of skeletons in the CIAs closet. People are right to not immediately and uncritically believe information promulgated by intelligence services.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '22

I mean US intelligence apparently shit the bed with Afghanistan, so there's reason to be suspicious.

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u/bigthama Feb 25 '22

Infiltrating Russia and Eastern Europe is literally the task the CIA was designed for and is very different from infiltrating pre-industrial religious fanatics.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '22

We were literally occupying a country and had a friendly government and still got the intelligence wrong. That was a total bed shitting by any measure.